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Subject: Is Smith-Micro getting ready to dump Poser?


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gagnonrich ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 1:56 PM · edited Tue, 01 October 2024 at 7:05 AM

Attached Link: http://www.smithmicro.com/products/

I went to the Smith-Micro website to see what version of Poser was current since I haven't been using the program much. Oddly, it's not listed as one of their products on the product page. It's still in the store. Links from the store can eventually bring one to the main page for Poser. It appears that Smith-Micro is shifting their focus to more traditional business software solutions.

MetaCreations took a similar path before dumping the core graphics programs that had made them famous.

I don't know offhand what this means.

Let the rumors fly.

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 1:59 PM · edited Sun, 05 August 2012 at 1:59 PM

.... they are getting ready to launch a new poser site, making announcements this week at a major trade show etc.

no. I don't think they are.



foxylady1 ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 2:00 PM

It is right there in front of you.  Look at the "store" tab.


Teyon ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 2:04 PM

The graphics products, unlike the communication software, have their own site:

http://my.smithmicro.com/

Enjoy.


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 2:04 PM

your right. put mouse over  store, on the left it then shows POSER.... and to there to the store page... which is showing plenty of poser items.



Eric Walters ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 2:05 PM

Oddly enough- looking at Press Releases one finds:

http://www.smithmicro.com/about/news/smith-micro-poser-exclusive-reality-3-partnership-at-siggraph-2012.aspx



NanetteTredoux ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 2:11 PM

Gagnonrich are you stirring?

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LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 3:32 PM

What is it with the doom posts today? LOL

Laurie



WandW ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 3:54 PM

Plus Steve Cooper mentioned that they would be rolling out a new Poser website this coming week...

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toastie ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 4:12 PM

Quote - Plus Steve Cooper mentioned that they would be rolling out a new Poser website this coming week...

 

Hmmm.... wonder how good their testing has been? ;)

 

 


Eric Walters ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 4:46 PM

In some 5 billion years or so-the sun will swell up enough to swallow the Earth-then subside into a White Dwarf.

I don't know if Smith Micro will still be selling Poser Pro Version 5,000,0000,000 at that time

Quote - What is it with the doom posts today? LOL

Laurie



LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 4:48 PM

Well, what I meant was this one and "Is Genesis Killing Daz?" LOL.

My my aren't we all gloomy today? LOL

Laurie



Eric Walters ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 5:51 PM

 Laurie- I know! I just had to throw in a bit of absurdity

Quote - Well, what I meant was this one and "Is Genesis Killing Daz?" LOL.

My my aren't we all gloomy today? LOL

Laurie



Dale B ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 5:52 PM

Quote - In some 5 billion years or so-the sun will swell up enough to swallow the Earth-then subside into a White Dwarf.

I don't know if Smith Micro will still be selling Poser Pro Version 5,000,0000,000 at that time

Quote - What is it with the doom posts today? LOL

Laurie

 

Isn't a G1 class star too tiny to even make it to white dwarf stage? I thought Sol was bound for brown dwarf and eventual dwindling and cooling to a non radiant mass. Gotta be G3 at least to get a good nova from, barring external influence.....

 

But you may have stumbled onto Coop's plans for immortality. embed one unique thought in the code base of each release, then let it lay until computing gets strong enough, then.....

COLOSSUS.....!!! 


LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 6:12 PM

Quote - > Quote - In some 5 billion years or so-the sun will swell up enough to swallow the Earth-then subside into a White Dwarf.

I don't know if Smith Micro will still be selling Poser Pro Version 5,000,0000,000 at that time

Quote - What is it with the doom posts today? LOL

Laurie

 

Isn't a G1 class star too tiny to even make it to white dwarf stage? I thought Sol was bound for brown dwarf and eventual dwindling and cooling to a non radiant mass. Gotta be G3 at least to get a good nova from, barring external influence.....

 

But you may have stumbled onto Coop's plans for immortality. embed one unique thought in the code base of each release, then let it lay until computing gets strong enough, then.....

COLOSSUS.....!!! 

Dang, you just reminded me the Mars rover lands on Mars tonight. Thanks...lol.

Laurie



SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 6:29 PM

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> Quote - What is it with the doom posts today? LOL > > Laurie

 

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WandW ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 6:53 PM

Quote - Dang, you just reminded me the Mars rover lands on Mars tonight. Thanks...lol.

Laurie

 

NASA TV link with feed... 😄

 

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/schedule.html

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markschum ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 7:01 PM

I see the headline now, Mars rover crashes into mars at 16000 miles per hour , mammoth eruption of Olympus mons kills surviving martian sandbears.

 

WE are ALL going to DIE !!!  ..........................................someday ;)


lmckenzie ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 9:12 PM

The 'Universe' is a 3D simulation running on the computer of a stoner who lives in his parent's basement. Unfortunately, he can't afford high quality weed - and thus the current state of affairs.

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Eric Walters ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 10:38 PM

 I believe it is a G2- and will end up as a white dwarf-then a cold black dwarf.

I see you have been playing Mass Effect! "Colossus"

 

Quote - > Quote -

Isn't a G1 class star too tiny to even make it to white dwarf stage? I thought Sol was bound for brown dwarf and eventual dwindling and cooling to a non radiant mass. Gotta be G3 at least to get a good nova from, barring external influence.....

 

But you may have stumbled onto Coop's plans for immortality. embed one unique thought in the code base of each release, then let it lay until computing gets strong enough, then.....

COLOSSUS.....!!! 



gagnonrich ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 10:39 PM

Attached Link: http://poser.smithmicro.com/

Anytime a business starts to disassociate itself from one of its products, it's not a great thing for that product. It's not necessarily a bad thing. It sure as hell doesn't represent a firm commitment to that product's welfare. A couple years ago, last time I looked, Poser was on the Smith-Micro Product page and now it's not. That's a pretty solid statement that Smith-Micro, at it's top levels, sees the future of the company lying in a different direction.

I'm not interested enough in exactly how Poser is being shifted/realigned within Smith-Micro to do any further digging. If anybody has any info or links, it would be interesting to see them.

For anybody that felt terribly clever about finding Poser in the SM store, please read the part of my original post that said, "It's still in the store. Links from the store can eventually bring one to the main page for Poser." I'm posting the link I found here because it's a much more comprehensive link than the my.smithmicro one. This appears to be the link maintained by the Poser development team whereas the my.smithmicro link isn't very informative.

Just because there are press releases and Poser activity doesn't mean the program is healthy at Smith-Micro. If memory serves me right (not that I'm betting on it), didn't E-Frontier buy Poser from Curious Labs a month or so before Poser 7 was released? The company, that owned the 3D program Hexagon, was advertising a new release and was accepting pre-orders just before selling it to DAZ and never released the update on their own. The update was released by DAZ.

Companies operate on many different levels and one hand doesn't always know what the other is doing. I have no inside information on whether or not Poser employees had much lead info before their unit was bought and sold multiple times. Everybody just keeps doing their job since there's often no way of knowing what is going on. Typically, only the top people at a company know what's really being done.

I even had one uncomfortable job where I was stuck in the middle of having to let a division of the company continue working on a project that I knew full well my management was talking about taking away from them and giving to another division to start from scratch. When the coup finally happened, my management didn't even tell me and I got waylaid at a meeting by being the only person in the room who was unaware that the project had finally been moved. Even though I was the project manager for the project being moved, my management was doing things behind my back as well as behind the backs of the division that was happlily proceeding as if the project were theirs to complete. It was something I had some inside information about, but I didn't have all of it. Guess who got all the blame when the new division picking up the project found out that all the behind-the-scenes wrangling came out of their time to do a six-month project such that they only really had two months to do it and failed? I'll give you a hint--it wasn't the upper management bosses that kept everybody in the dark.

Just because things look like "business as usual" doesn't mean they are. Does a Poser presentation at SIGGRAPH mean Smith-Micro is committed to the program?--Probably no more than Hexagon's owners, taking pre-order money for a new release of the software, had any intent of releasing it. Smith-Micro could be in the middle of selling Poser and still be at SIGGRAPH. All that press release means is that somebody representing the company is presenting information at the event. That has no bearing on whatever behind-the-scenes things are going on, if any.

Seeing Smith-Micro remove Poser from their product listings is akin to having your name taken off your company's organizational chart. It may not mean you're fired, but you can pretty well bet you're not on the short list for a promotion. Sometimes a product spun off to a satellite part of a company is a good thing because it often grants the spin-off more autonomy. It's also done to make it easier to get rid of that product. There are times when this kind of change allows a product to shine and there are times when it's the first step to divesting the company of a product they're no lonter interested in. I don't which case is happening here.

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Eric Walters ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 10:43 PM

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Game Over Man! Game Over!



WandW ( ) posted Sun, 05 August 2012 at 11:13 PM · edited Sun, 05 August 2012 at 11:16 PM

This is how SM describes themselves in their 2011 annual report...

Smith Micro Software, Inc. provides software and services that simplify, secure and enhance the mobile experience. The Company’s portfolio of wireless solutions includes a wide range of client and server applications that manage voice, data, video and connectivity over mobile broadband networks. Our primary customers are the world’s leading mobile network operators, mobile device manufacturers and enterprise businesses. In addition to our wireless and mobility software, Smith Micro offers personal productivity and graphics products distributed through a variety of consumer channels worldwide.

It more likely is that since SM's stock prices are in the toilet because thir core wireless networking businesses have taken a hit (sales down over 50% last year over 2010, mostly due to Verizon switching from their phone software ), they are emphasizing their core network/mobile solutions to appeal to enterprise customers and investors; none of their consumer products are featured on their homepage, just the enterprise stuff, because graphics and productivity software only represent $9 million of their $57 million in revenue...

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shedofjoy ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 8:52 AM

it wont matter about our suns death as the andromeda galaxy will smash into ours around the same time creating the milkomeda galaxy, so we are even more doomed,lol

Getting old and still making "art" without soiling myself, now that's success.


Cage ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 2:16 PM

Doesn't matter, I'll prob'ly get hit by a truck anyway.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 2:28 PM

Yeah, look on the bright side, Cage.

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Cage ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 2:31 PM

Sorry, I was, y'know, trying to quote a song.  But I screwed it up.  D'Oh!  :blushing:

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Cage can be an opinionated jerk who posts without thinking.  He apologizes for this.  He's honestly not trying to be a turkeyhead.

Cage had some freebies, compatible with Poser 11 and below.  His Python scripts were saved at archive.org, along with the rest of the Morphography site, where they were hosted.


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 2:33 PM

Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best...



SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 2:40 PM

Quote - Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best...

My Dad had that played at his funeral. 

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DCArt ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 2:42 PM

Let the rumors fly.

Why should 2012 be any different than 1995-2011?

8-)



LilWolff ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 4:29 PM

Quote - I see the headline now, Mars rover crashes into mars at 16000 miles per hour , mammoth eruption of Olympus mons kills surviving martian sandbears.

 

WE are ALL going to DIE !!!  ..........................................someday ;)

 

Someday is December 21, 2012 

;-)

I hope they hurry up with SR3 and new fig before we all get dumped LOL


LaurieA ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 4:32 PM

They'll let us know on the 22nd Lilwolff...lol.

Laurie



LilWolff ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 5:18 PM

lol  of course!


DCArt ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 5:35 PM

Quote -
I hope they hurry up with SR3 and new fig before we all get dumped LOL

 

Nah they're testing everything on Mars to see if it's inhabitable. We might have an out. Could inspire a whole new Poser wardrobe genre too!



mrsparky ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 6:17 PM

They'd never get rid of poser - if they did we'd have nothing to complain about :)

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



WandW ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 6:24 PM

Quote - They'd never get rid of poser - if they did we'd have nothing to complain about :)

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DCArt ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 6:35 PM

It's part of the natural balance of all things.

Death, taxes, complaining about Poser, and chocolate.



LaurieA ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 6:37 PM

Well, at least chocolate ;)

Laurie



DCArt ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 6:39 PM · edited Mon, 06 August 2012 at 6:43 PM

According to my iPhone ...

Siri .. what is the meaning of life?

"All evidence to date says it's chocolate."

Cracked me up!

 

(Aw, she changed her mind. This time she said "I don't know, but I think there's an app for that."  LOL what a hoot)

 

But complaining about Poser has to be in there somewhere. 8-)



LaurieA ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 6:41 PM · edited Mon, 06 August 2012 at 6:42 PM

SO TRUE!! LOL And I'm having my daily dose as we speak.... Chocolate that is. I did my complaining earlier...lol.

;)

Laurie



LilWolff ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 8:26 PM

Quote - They'd never get rid of poser - if they did we'd have nothing to complain about :)

Being honest - I personally would find something else to complain about.  ;-)

Right now it is the LACK of chocolate in my house! drooling


PrecisionXXX ( ) posted Mon, 06 August 2012 at 11:46 PM

Quote - > Quote - They'd never get rid of poser - if they did we'd have nothing to complain about :)

Being honest - I personally would find something else to complain about.  ;-)

Right now it is the LACK of chocolate in my house! drooling

(Something ese to complain about first)  I live about half a mile from the local Nestles plant, and they happen to be converting to choclolate.  The smell of chocolate maybe beats the smell of a foundry.  But after half a day, maybe not.

I have a couple of the 4 1/2 ounce bars of Hersheys Special Dark in my desk, but at the moment, I'm eating a cruller.

After half a day of smelling chocolate, you didn't think I'd be eating it, did you?

 

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 


monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 07 August 2012 at 5:08 AM

Quote - live about half a mile from the local Nestles plant, and they happen to be converting to choclolate.  The smell of chocolate maybe beats the smell of a foundry.  But after half a day, maybe not.

I hope they get the conversion right. You don't want to be biting down on a chocolate bar made of iron...

😉


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 07 August 2012 at 5:34 AM

Quote - I have a couple of the 4 1/2 ounce bars of Hersheys Special Dark in my desk, but at the moment, I'm eating a cruller.

After half a day of smelling chocolate, you didn't think I'd be eating it, did you?

 

I used to drive by an Oscar Mayer plant quite often ... I understand what you mean. I am no longer convinced that they have a way with B-O-L-O-G-N-A.



LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 07 August 2012 at 7:42 AM · edited Tue, 07 August 2012 at 7:44 AM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - They'd never get rid of poser - if they did we'd have nothing to complain about :)

Being honest - I personally would find something else to complain about.  ;-)

Right now it is the LACK of chocolate in my house! drooling

(Something ese to complain about first)  I live about half a mile from the local Nestles plant, and they happen to be converting to choclolate.  The smell of chocolate maybe beats the smell of a foundry.  But after half a day, maybe not.

I have a couple of the 4 1/2 ounce bars of Hersheys Special Dark in my desk, but at the moment, I'm eating a cruller.

After half a day of smelling chocolate, you didn't think I'd be eating it, did you?

 

D.

I love driving thru Hershey, PA which is just one town over from where I live and grew up. The smell goes all the way thru town from one end to the other (with a Reeses plant not too far outside of town). I could just set up camp in the middle of the sidewalk and live there...lol.

And after a day of smelling chocolate, I'd be all over a Hershey bar, yes indeed....lol.

Laurie



DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 07 August 2012 at 7:57 AM

(with a Reeses plant not too far outside of town)

 

OK, now that I could handle. LOL  My FAVORITE is peanut butter cups.



LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 07 August 2012 at 8:12 AM · edited Tue, 07 August 2012 at 8:12 AM

I remember a story my grandmother used to tell me when I was a kid:

Her and my aunt used to work for Hershey Chocolate for awhile when she was younger and at that time (don't know about now...it's all automated now) she worked at the part in the line where they had a small paddle and had to turn the molds over and tap the small Hershey Bars out. They were allowed to eat the broken ones. She said by the time she was done working there the thought of eating chocolate made her wanna throw up. Too much of a good thing I guess...lol.

Laurie



SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 07 August 2012 at 4:14 PM

Not wishing to start an international incident here but...

Having tried American chocolate once, I wouldn't be too keen to eat it, either.

There, I said it.  Flame on.  :) 

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 07 August 2012 at 4:19 PM

Quote - Not wishing to start an international incident here but...

Having tried American chocolate once, I wouldn't be too keen to eat it, either.

There, I said it.  Flame on.  :) 

I'd be inclined to agree there, I do have to say... 😉

Although chocolate's chocolate. If I had a choice I'd probably take both and save the U.S. recipe stuff in case of a shortage.


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 07 August 2012 at 4:25 PM

Quote - Not wishing to start an international incident here but...

Having tried American chocolate once, I wouldn't be too keen to eat it, either.

There, I said it.  Flame on.  :) 

 

I'd have to agree with you ... on most of it.

Godiva is good though. (drool)



moriador ( ) posted Tue, 07 August 2012 at 4:36 PM · edited Tue, 07 August 2012 at 4:38 PM

Quote - Not wishing to start an international incident here but...

Having tried American chocolate once, I wouldn't be too keen to eat it, either.

There, I said it.  Flame on.  :) 

American chocolate is definitely an acquired taste. Sometimes, though, it's just what I want.

Alas, I believe Cadbury up here is made in Pennsylvania. I have to get chocolate imported from the UK to get an authentic UK taste. Fortunately, there's a big market for it here, so British chocolate/candy is not hard to find.

I'm a fan of Swiss chocolate. Always will be.


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