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Subject: Miki 4 Needs Renders As Well


paganeagle2001 ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 3:31 PM ยท edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 7:49 AM

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Well, Tyler has had his threads!!! Lol.

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LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 3:36 PM ยท edited Tue, 25 September 2012 at 3:40 PM

They should have never touched Miki 1's feet except maybe to scale them down a bit. Those don't look near as nice. He has flat feet ;) Dunno what it is with all the flat feet lately.

Laurie "The Foot Lady"



TZORG ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 4:18 PM

His feet do look kinda flat. Is that the default body? ISTR Miki 3 looking a little soft.

It's not the tool used, it's the tool using it


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 4:44 PM

Sorry, I DID mean she ;).

Laurie



Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 4:49 PM

There's a foot Arch morph.ย 


nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 4:55 PM

Teyon, thank you. You did a very nice job. Internet forums are dominated by complainers. Pointless to argue. I think it is why many people just lurk.ย  I think people don't look at the dials enough. You can make fairly decent characters out of many of the Poser people if you try. Again Teyon, I like her very much.


Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 4:55 PM

I never saw Miki1's foot. I wonder if we have it? I should check. I've only gone back as far as Miki 2.


Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 4:56 PM

Quote - Teyon, thank you. You did a very nice job. Internet forums are dominated by complainers. Pointless to argue. I think it is why many people just lurk.ย  I think people don't look at the dials enough. You can make fairly decent characters out of many of the Poser people if you try. Again Teyon, I like her very much.

ย 

Thanks. I'm glad folks are liking the new body for the most part - haven't heard much about the Miki 4 morph but still, it's nice to know the body is better than Miki 3's. As for the rest, people like what they like. I try to hear everyone out and then just do what I can to meet folks half way while pleasing my bosses. Sometimes I even manage to get that right. :)


TZORG ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 4:58 PM ยท edited Tue, 25 September 2012 at 4:59 PM

ISTR the feet is one of the few things they changed about the geometry from Miki 1 to Miki 2......

I do like Miki 3 (don't have 4)

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Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 5:18 PM

Ah. That explains that. Well, P10 figures will be (hopefully) even more realistic so I'll be sure to default to arched foot and have a flat foot morph instead of the reverse.


-Timberwolf- ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 5:20 PM ยท edited Tue, 25 September 2012 at 5:21 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2370474&section_id=&genre_id=&np

My first Miki4 render with my first own Bodymorph.


Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 5:31 PM

Very nice!


Virtual_World ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 5:56 PM

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My first Miki 4 portrait.ย  Thanks for an excellent work!


Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 6:04 PM

Cool!


toastie ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 6:09 PM

Quote - My first Miki 4 portrait.ย  Thanks for an excellent work!

ย 

Pretty! :)

ย 


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LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 6:23 PM

Quote - My first Miki 4 portrait.ย  Thanks for an excellent work!

VERY cute :)

Laurie



DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 6:30 PM

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How's about this one?



TZORG ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 6:34 PM

I love all those renders

Timberwolf's render makes me feel I need a sweater! A++++

It's not the tool used, it's the tool using it


Virtual_World ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 6:54 PM

Quote - How's about this one?

Very beautiful!


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 6:54 PM

Quote - > Quote - How's about this one?

Very beautiful!

ย 

Used your textures 8-)ย  I love that Asian Beauty set!



DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 7:03 PM ยท edited Tue, 25 September 2012 at 7:09 PM

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Here's a really old test render I did ... this one also uses the Asian Beauty texture set, and also uses the "Miki 4" head morph (since Teyon brought it up ...)

Interesting to compare to Miki 2 (which I think is the Miki used in my avatar).ย  I like this newer face much better.



monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 7:14 PM ยท edited Tue, 25 September 2012 at 7:16 PM

Content Advisory! This message contains nudity

Here's a quick render of Miki4 with some tweaks to her face / head morphs and using a Miki3 pose I had kicking about...

Click image for larger gallery version...

Nudity advisory, just in case... I'm just never sure where the line is :sneaky:

EDIT: ...and yes, winter is drawing in...


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 7:17 PM

Quote - Here's a quick render of Miki4 with some tweaks to her face / head morphs and using a Miki3 pose I had kicking about...

ย 

Click image for larger gallery version...

Nudity advisory, just in case... I'm just never sure where the line is :sneaky:

EDIT: ...and yes, winter is drawing in...

ย 

Has a nice painterly quality to it! Nice job.



Virtual_World ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 7:58 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - How's about this one?

Very beautiful!

ย 

Used your textures 8-)ย  I love that Asian Beauty set!

ย 

Thank you! Glad you like it!ย  Love both of your renders and that dress is fantastic.ย  I purchase it and I am playing with it right now!ย 


Virtual_World ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 8:24 PM

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This is another render wearing the new dress!


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 8:27 PM

Quote - This is another render wearing the new dress!

ย 

ย 

Ooooh I like that one!!!



meatSim ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 8:59 PM

I only had a few brief moments to play with Miki4, but I was quite happy with her bending. ย I didnt really get to tear into her too deeply but I think she bends better than alyson and ryan. ย 


Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 25 September 2012 at 10:24 PM

These are great! Keep 'em coming!


estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:58 AM

Virtual_World, that looks very nice. I would like to see her teeth in a smile to see how she looks.

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-Timberwolf- ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 7:18 AM

Great renders here. Weight mapping is so much better but it is not the holy gral. It still needs a lot of JCMs and postwork. I agree with RGUS, hands are to big. Lets see if Miki 4 has propagating scale options.


monkeycloud ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 7:25 AM

Just to shift the critical focus, temporarily, away from Laurie's foot obsessions... LOL... I think her armpits are fantastic Teyon :biggrin:

I think armpits might even matter to me as much as feet matter to Laurie... maybe. Maybe that's my new thing... armpits :lol:

Personally, I like her feet too... maybe more so with a touch of arch morph added... sure.


PsychoNaut ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:00 PM ยท edited Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:01 PM

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Finally got to play a bit with this one. ย Miki 4 w/ the 3 face and the new body is fantastic. ย That body is delicious. ย The new face morphs and controls are top notch too. ย Love those ย eyelashes. ย Teyon you did so much better on this one than Miki 3, it's like it's a whole new figure. ย Love it!

Just "out of the zip file" test render, low quality render settings.


DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:14 PM

Yuppers, for sure, Teyon and Darrell did a great job. They worked hard, and it shows!



LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:37 PM

Quote - Just to shift the critical focus, temporarily, away from Laurie's foot obsessions... LOL... I think her armpits are fantastic Teyon :biggrin:

...

Yeah, no one will ever let me live it down so I may as well play along....lol.

Laurie



thinkcooper ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:40 PM

Quote - Yuppers, for sure, Teyon and Darrell did a great job. They worked hard, and it shows!

ย 

Agreed! FWIW, the core team who delivered Miki4?

The folks that worked on Miki3 plus these dedicated team members who actually delivered Miki4:

  • Darrel Glidden for rigging, ghost bones, ABCs, JCMs, material conversions and dependencies
  • Teyon Alexander for modeling, full and partial body/actor morphs
  • Denise Tyler for documentation and testing
  • Steve Rathmann for coordinating the beta program, managing SVN and building our installers
  • Uli Klumpp and Larry Weinberg for providing engineering support and some critical poser fixes that enable better bending and scaling
    -Snarlygribbly for EZSkin and for lending his eyes to the project before we closed the door
  • my superiors at Smith for recognizing that injecting joy into the Poser space with a freebie this big has value
  • Tori Porter, Steve Yatson and Lin Petrucci for helping build out the back end and the marketing components
  • and of course - to all the fantastic beta testers!

We've been on this project for a year, and it is very satisfying to finally be able to share her.


WandW ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:46 PM ยท edited Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:59 PM

Miki 3 left the keys to the Mastadon lying around... :lol: (EDIT: near nudity in link)

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2370743

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WandW ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:50 PM

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I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

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LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:55 PM

Quote - Miki 3 left the keys to the Mastadon lying around... :lol:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2370743

I hope she doesn't get her boobs caught in anything...LOL! ;).

Laurie



DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 12:59 PM

Quote - > Quote - Miki 3 left the keys to the Mastadon lying around... :lol:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2370743

I hope she doesn't get her boobs caught in anything...LOL! ;).

Laurie

ย 

I bet it's very warm there too (LOL)ย  ... that's gotta hurt!



thinkcooper ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 1:00 PM

Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

ย 

What really helps the toe bends? Involve not just the actor we calll the "toe" but also use the actual individual toe joints. I know there is a pose pack of Miki4 foot poses in the works and the preliminary screen caps I've seen from that are pretty hot.


richardson ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 1:05 PM ยท edited Wed, 26 September 2012 at 1:11 PM

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Finally putting up a render after studying her for a while... still the reigning queen of expression...;)ย  Really nice original morphs in there as well. Facial morphs hidden all over the place.

Head/neck and torso twist,bend side to side seem superior to dialing them. So easy to render compared to V4 and 71K a good weight.

ย 

ย 

ย 


Teyon ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 1:41 PM

Thanks gang. :)


drifterlee ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 2:01 PM

I just rendered her. She looks cross-eyed to me, and those big hands. Ugh!


monkeycloud ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 2:23 PM ยท edited Wed, 26 September 2012 at 2:23 PM

Quote - > Quote - Yuppers, for sure, Teyon and Darrell did a great job. They worked hard, and it shows!

ย 

Agreed! FWIW, the core team who delivered Miki4?

The folks that worked on Miki3 plus these dedicated team members who actually delivered Miki4:

  • Darrel Glidden for rigging, ghost bones, ABCs, JCMs, material conversions and dependencies
  • Teyon Alexander for modeling, full and partial body/actor morphs
  • Denise Tyler for documentation and testing
  • Steve Rathmann for coordinating the beta program, managing SVN and building our installers
  • Uli Klumpp and Larry Weinberg for providing engineering support and some critical poser fixes that enable better bending and scaling
    -Snarlygribbly for EZSkin and for lending his eyes to the project before we closed the door
  • my superiors at Smith for recognizing that injecting joy into the Poser space with a freebie this big has value
  • Tori Porter, Steve Yatson and Lin Petrucci for helping build out the back end and the marketing components
  • and of course - to all the fantastic beta testers!

We've been on this project for a year, and it is very satisfying to finally be able to share her.

Many thanks to everyone involved... I've been anticipating her arrival my whole Poser lifetime.

Can't wait for PhilC to publish her WW definition... coming a little later today (U.S.) I believe.

Playing with WW and Tyler currently...

๐Ÿ˜‰


bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 3:43 PM

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> Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.


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thefixer ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 3:50 PM

Just installed her and messed around, I really like the figure as a whole, but what is with those hands..!

They look a bit long to me.....

But, that aside I will be using her a lot..

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Jules53757 ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 4:11 PM

And the best thing, my basic naughty bit morphs for Miki 3 work on her too.


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monkeycloud ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 4:12 PM

Quote - > Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

Nice work :biggrin:


monkeycloud ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 4:14 PM

Quote - ย  What really helps the toe bends? Involve not just the actor we calll the "toe" but also use the actual individual toe joints. I know there is a pose pack of Miki4 foot poses in the works and the preliminary screen caps I've seen from that are pretty hot.

I'll look forward to seeing that one ๐Ÿ˜„


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 4:18 PM

Quote - > Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

Very good. LOL I don't question whether or not I can do it myself (I can) but whether the average user can and how she can look a little better out of the box.

Laurie



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