Just started using Tyler and got to say I'm hugely impressed!

Also really impressed to see he has a proper foreskin. Problem I'm having with this though - the foreskin only seems to fit properly when all the other morphs are set to zero. If I use the "flaccid" morph, then his foreskin gets left behind and deforms, which doesn't seem quite right!

Have I missed something somewhere with this?

No, I found the same problem.

I think it has to do with the the way Poser genitals work, rather than anything Blackhearted did. There reasons why Daz figures were so popular. This is one of them.

Well, for the little I played with Tyler and... his... addon... :rolleyes:

...that was the only problem, so, not a big problem.

Quote - I think it has to do with the the way Poser genitals work, rather than anything Blackhearted did. There reasons why Daz figures were so popular. This is one of them.

You're joking, aren't you? The Daz figure genitals are terrible. :blink:

Tyler's don't look too bad at all and the foreskin morph isn't bad.... provided his dick is sticking out at right angles....

I thought maybe I'd missed something in the morphs that would fix it, but maybe not.

Is there a readme file that comes with Tyler? And if so - anyone know where the installer might've dumped it?

There's a user's guide. The installer dumps it outside the runtime of the folder you where you installed Tyler.

is that like a turtleneck problemos?   

Quote - There's a user's guide. The installer dumps it outside the runtime of the folder you where you installed Tyler.

Ah. Gottit - thanks.

Hmmmm.... not much about the genitals in there.

I had noticed it long ago with the Ryan bits.  It moves via morphs, when it really needs... dare I say... a few bones...

Quote - Ah. Gottit - thanks. Hmmmm.... not much about the genitals in there.

 

No, only a few words...

Never used Ryan before so this was my first encounter with the problem.

Hmm. Ok, so it's not something specific to Tyler and it's not me missing something obvious. So is there anyway to improve on this at all? Seems a bit of a shame that he actually has a foreskin but there's no way to use it in a render :(

You can use the foreskin morph, but only in one position.

I havent touched his genitals (no pun intended), other than to fit the base to Tyler's pelvis.  They already had a wide range of morphs, and as stated some did not interact well with each other unless the flaccid morph was zeroed.

To 'fix' them all morphs would have had to have been stripped out and redone from scratch on a new 'base morph' - at which point I may as well just have remodeled the genitals entirely -- and this was beyond the scope of the project.

Sorry guys... but please understand that Tyler is an elaborate tweak of Ryan 2, and not an entirely new generation of figure.  I chose to devote most of my time to other areas of the figure.

It does create an opportunity for someone to make a Tyler Penor product, however.

Or a set of add-on morphs? PND: Tyler?

Don't worry Blackhearted, you've done a great job with Tyler and that problem is a very small one.

Oh... I hope not to hurt Tyler in his masculinity. :lol: 

Quote - Don't worry Blackhearted, you've done a great job with Tyler and that problem is a very small one.

Oh... I hope not to hurt Tyler in his masculinity. :lol: 

Hehe! Actually I was fairly worried I'd done him a serious physical injury when I dialled in the foreskin and flacid morphs together..... Ouch! That was not pretty!

Ah well. If it doesn't work then it doesn't work. Like I said, I'd never loaded up Ryan before so I didn't know it was a problem. (I can't imagine what something was thinking when they originally set the genitals up like that though. Weirdness).

The rest of Tyler's looking pretty good so far though :)

I have to admit that without the great rework on Ryan by Blackhearted, in a year I've never loaded him, so far.

Is there somewhere you can put in requests to SM? I want to ask for a working foreskin for Ryan/Tyler.

What you do is to load it into your digital circumcision program and click...

...ouch! :blink: 

...or don't use that morph.

No, no - that's all backwards! I need a digital UN-circumcision program for Tyler.

There are  some free male gens, even way better than Ryan/Tyler one, Ulf Gen, Adz Gen this last one maybe the one  with more options.

just put in a request in the wishing well forum for add-on articulated genitals for Ryan/Tyler.

im not sure what Renderosity's current marketplace regs are but im willing to bet that if it is presented tastefully as an anatomically correct addition instead of '550 DIFFERENT ERECTIONS AND PENIS-TENTACLE FOR TYLER' then itll be allowed in the MP.

its an entire product unto itself.  id do it myself but im super busy and its really just not my thing -- TBH i am only really concerned with surface geometry.  this is why my GND figures all have external genitalia, but theyre not 'morphing' or mimic-capable. Tyler's penis looks OK, and it works more or less, which is why I left it as is and chose to focus on other areas like the JCMs.

but its actually not a bad idea for an enterprising merchant to make an addon. in fact why limit it to Tyler: you could make a penor that has morphs on its base to adapt to all the male figures. hell, make it fit V4 and Alyson too (i am not joking - you KNOW some people will use it, it takes 5 min to fit to a character, why the hell not?).

again if presented tastefully - and that can easily be done - then i dont see why it would be refused in any marketplace .

Quote - ...im not sure what Renderosity's current marketplace regs are but im willing to bet that if it is presented tastefully as an anatomically correct addition instead of '550 DIFFERENT ERECTIONS AND PENIS-TENTACLE FOR TYLER' then itll be allowed in the MP...

I rarely use males (and their... addon) but with that promo I'll buy it immediately! :lol: 

Quote - Or a set of add-on morphs? PND: Tyler?

PND!

ROFLMDO!

Quote - > Quote - Or a set of add-on morphs? PND: Tyler?

PND!

ROFLMDO!

 

Um... well, all good ideas certainly, but actually I'd just be happy if the foreskin morph that comes with the original figure worked properly.

But I do have the free gens that Adzan made if I ever find that Tyler needs something special for frightening cats and old ladies.... ;)

"… you could make a penor that has morphs on its base to adapt to all the male figures. hell, make it fit V4 and Alyson too … ."

One of the add on packages, maybe Satanica's, does have a V4 and some other fits included. There's a free horse organ out there somewhere if you really want to build the boy's ego up :-)

Yep, Horse Organ by Davo...

Satanica Inc. has fits for the Sanctum Art Phenotypes and the Sixus Grey Alien (with corresponding textures) amongst others (many others).

Strideri has a rather formidable Poser Penor fig that fits just about any male or female character there is.

The Poser Penor mine of opportunity has been thoroughly delved I'm afraid... Not that penors are my particular Poser penchant, I just happen to have a fascination for tentacles and the absurd. Nipple bones fer instance, and yes, Renderosity has a V4 rigged with nipple bones. See Kawecki's store... (from product editorial)-

"A new Victoria 4.x or Aiko 4 character that has nipples as body parts. Now Vicky4 has rNipple and lNipple that you can move up-down side-side, twist and scales. Moving the nipples the respective breast will follow creating amazing breast dynamics in a very easy way and you can even use "point-at"!!!".

"Yep, Horse Organ by Davo..."

Actually I think this was another one - not sure. I can't remember where I saw it, but it wasn't 'Rotica or Davo's site, if he still has one up. Must be a lot of renders in tribute to Secretariat's retirement floating around, I suppose.

"… Renderosity has a V4 rigged with nipple bones." 

Ah, but AFAIK, no one has yet produced the mythical Mimic capable vagina though :-) 

Didn't someone say Genesis has talking toenails and fingernails? Surely a talking vagina can't be far away?

Anyhoo.... does SM have somewhere for bug reports or suggestions where I can ask them to fix Tyler/Ryan's foreskin problem?

Maybe this one...

https://support.smithmicro.com/

Quote - Maybe this one...

https://support.smithmicro.com/

Thanks. Worth me asking them I 'spose. Tyler looks like he'll be great for artistic nude renders and would be even better with a properly working foreskin morph!

You're welcome and I also think that a functional foreskin morph would be better.