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Subject: OT - WTF? Disney are buying Lucasfilm / ILM, Star wars 7 to come....WHAT?


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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 4:02 PM · edited Fri, 22 November 2024 at 12:55 PM

ok I just slipped universes right or this is a huge joke...?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20146942



3doutlaw ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 4:28 PM

$4.05 Billion is no joke...  :blink:


bopperthijs ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 4:34 PM

What I read years ago, before the making of the phantom menace, in an interview with George Lukas that he was planning to make nine films, three trilogies in total. IIRC, the last trilogie would be a serie around the adventures of Han Solo. But I wonder that will still be the planning, I would really be surprised if Harrison Ford would play him again. Perhaps a nice role for Johny Depp : Pirates of the Galaxy.

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 4:40 PM


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 4:49 PM

Well, there goes the franchise....

LOL monkeycloud ;).

Laurie



monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 5:05 PM · edited Tue, 30 October 2012 at 5:10 PM

He he...

I'm actually not without hope that there could be some good from it.

If whoever Disney decide to take on to handle the project, creatively, is someone who can make something more than just a visual extravaganza... and get back to the characters and human chemistry that the original trilogy had...

...well, the Han Solo storyline is interesting. Harrison Ford is a big part of making Han Solo work as a character, I feel. But... I've no doubt there are plenty of very talented young actors, relatively undiscovered, like Ford was when he landed the Solo role, who could make the character of young Solo their own.

Depp is too big for the part, in my opinion... and too old now. Although I'm sure he could probably pull it off if he did take the role... I guess.

River Phoenix was looking like making a good younger Indiana Jones I thought... but again, he'd be too old for the part now, if he hadn't sadly died so young himself.

It definitely needs some new blood. But not some Mickey Mouse Club graduate... let's get that straight right off the bat 😉

Oh hang on... Ryan Gosling... er. There are exceptions to every rule perhaps?

 


monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 5:22 PM · edited Tue, 30 October 2012 at 5:23 PM

I know, it's a long shot... but never tell me the odds :sneaky:


lmckenzie ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 8:30 PM

"But not some Mickey Mouse Club graduate …"

Oh, come on, Justin and Brit Brit would be perfect. Maybe Snooki as the Ewok queen - all kinds of possibilities here. 

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silverblade33 ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 8:35 PM

just about corporations buying up all the IP they can, to control everything

next up, another major politician suddenly wishes to make copyright eternal, and soon you will own, nothing. :/

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Winterclaw ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 8:50 PM

Excited

 

However, I'm worried they'll make the movies too family/kids oriented a la episode 1.

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Paloth ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 1:09 AM

This is good news. It means there will be another Star Wars movie. Lucas wasn't willing to take on the effort and the risk at this point.

If it's a bomb, so what? The last trilogy wasn't exactly a jewel.

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 3:26 AM

Khai-J-Bach

Live long enough your be surprised at what Universes your see.
Might even see men land on the moon.& a real magic box.

George don't know if he has enough time to make 3 more movies,he saw Steve Die.
George knows he'll be dead soon to.
So George wants his legacy to live on forever like DaVinci.

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ashley9803 ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 3:40 AM

Disney could have saved a lot of money by hiring some creative people and creating their own franchise, if there are any creative people at disney.... aside from the financial engineers.


monkeycloud ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 4:29 AM · edited Wed, 31 October 2012 at 4:29 AM

Another telling pic... really, no one saw this coming? LOL


mrsparky ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 5:02 AM

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jerr3d ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 5:05 AM

Disney also owns Pixar now. Maybe they will let them make the next Star Wars films! ^ ^


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 5:16 AM

actually, Pixar control Disneys movies now.. that was the deal. the Head of Pixar is the head of Disney's movie dept.. so yup... Pixar will control Star Wars now.... and Indiana Jones..



RorrKonn ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 5:16 AM

Pixar is mostly all CGI cartons.
ILM is mostly all realistic CGI.

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Winterclaw ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 6:54 AM

Lucas is 68.  He waited too long between the trilogies for questionable results to be able to finish it himself. 

 

Quote - Disney could have saved a lot of money by hiring some creative people and creating their own franchise, if there are any creative people at disney.... aside from the financial engineers.

Let's see, they get the profits of all future installments.  All the merchandizing.  The video game division.  They get the profits from ILM. 

And of course you've got Starwarsland which probably will happen. You know at least ten million people will pony up the 100-120 it takes to get in there and a lot will keep going back.

 

Here's the thing about new IPs, they are expensive and there's no guarantee it'll be a hit with fans.  Why else do you see John Carter and Battleship being made?  It's because people with that kind of money hate to risk it on new ideas.

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Tomsde ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 8:00 AM

I've watched a lot of interviews with Lucas.  Originally, Lucas said he was going to make a total of nine Star Wars movies--the "first" triology about Annakin Skywalker and his descent into evil and end of the Republic, the second which was actually the first triology made, and a third about the post Empire new Republic.  I think, given the age of the original actors, they'd do best to do a Star Wars, the Next Generation--perhaps about Leia's and Han's Solo's children and possibly Luke as a Jedi Master Guru.

Truth be told I loathe the "first" trilogy--Anakin was never a very sympathetic character even before he became corrupted.  I think if someone besides Lucas could write the next trilogy it could be good, but it seems to me that he was struggling to come up with material during the prequel.  Almost everything in it was begged, borrowed or stolen from Edgar Rice Burroughs Mars series to Ben Hurr.  I have a pretty good suspension of disbelief when it comes to such things, but even I couldn't buy Luke and Leia's mother dieing of a broken heart after childbirth. . .


jerr3d ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 8:12 AM

Quote - Pixar is mostly all CGI cartons.
ILM is mostly all realistic CGI.

Yes, but perhaps they will mix the two to get the main characters back from episodes 4, 5, and 6 for the new Star War 7 film. The original actors who played Luke, Han and Leia are too old to play those parts?!


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Tomsde ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 8:40 AM

Too old for the parts if you want them to look like they did when they finished the last movie they did.  Have you seen Harrison Ford lately--no miracle of plastic surgery could take that many years off him.  He was no spring chicken when he made the original film.  They certainly are not too old to play older versions of the characters--that is if they agreed to do so--I think that Carrie Fisher has a love/hate relationship to the Princess Leia role and I think she would rather leave all that behind her and concentrate on her shock treatments and writing.


Winterclaw ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 9:07 AM · edited Wed, 31 October 2012 at 9:08 AM

Welly, you could always cast new actors for the roles or you could pick up 100 years later.

The problem is how the expanded universe will play into this.

 

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SPOLIERS 

 

Anakin Solo dies in an extra-galatic alien invasion and Jacen turns to the dark side, killing Luke's wife in the process.  Do you go that route or say screw it and invalidate everything that happens?

 

SPOLIERS 

 

 

 

 

 

Frankly I'd prefer the reboot, but you might see a lot of angry fans because of it.

 

 

I'd also like to see other "universes" and not just focusing on the events in the one we've already seen.

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jerr3d ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 9:31 AM

I think I read somewhere that the storyline of Star Wars 7 involves Han inventing a time machine and going back in time to kill Jar-Jar-Binks! :p


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LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 9:45 AM

Quote - I think I read somewhere that the storyline of Star Wars 7 involves Han inventing a time machine and going back in time to kill Jar-Jar-Binks! :p

 

One can only but hope.

Laurie



smallspace ( ) posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 11:13 AM

I heard that recently Disney has been firing a lot of their artists. Now this news comes out. I wonder if the two are related somehow?

 

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 1:59 AM

star wars episode 1 1999

star wars episode 2 2002

star wars episode 3 2005

star wars episode 4 1977

star wars episode 5 1980

star wars episode 6 1983

star wars episode 7 2015

I doubt star wars episode 7 2015 will be what we exspect.

The old batmans with michael keaton ,jack nicholson
never though it was true to batman thou.
Come to find out the directer had never read a batman comic.

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nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 10:37 AM

Star Wars Episode 7: "Pigs in Space".


Photopium ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 10:54 AM

I hope:

 

We get to go back to Tatooine again

There's another Death Star

There's a good, marketable plush toy creature for children featured prominently

More offensive stereotypical accents/creatures

More Belching and farting scenes, and people stepping on crap

20 minute scenes talking about Midi-Chorlians

Wooden actors delivering more embarassing dialogue

No wars whatsoever, only skirmishes

Villians with silly names.


monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 11:11 AM

Ah, those Midi-Chorlians...

I presume that's folk who live between the centre and the suburbs of the Lancashire town of Chorley??

You've got to watch you're back in Chorley, apparently... especially if carrying anything resembling a light sabre... or anything that could perhaps be mistaken for a samurai sword...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/17/police-taser-blind-man-stick

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nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 11:30 AM

A person with a weapon who cannot discern the difference between a samurai sword and a walking stick is a very dangerous person.


Eric Walters ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 12:54 PM

 

There is a game from 2003 called "Knights of the Old Republic"- great story-and characters. I remember thinking that it was better than  Star Wars Episode I, II, and III.

It had what Episode IV, V, and VI had-a good story-and characters. There has long been fan interest in remaking-continuing the story.

There was a sequel game-with different characters (not as good). Instead Lucas gave us an MMO, and the story of Darth Vader's secret apprentice (Sam Witwer) which I thought was promising-even though the sequel was not very satisfying.). But again- good characters-and story.

It is my hope that Disney continues the original story of Knights of the Old Republic-and the tale of DV's secret apprentice

I've had the feeling for years-that Lucas was tired of Star Wars- hence the lack of Episode VII. So I am HOPING people who love the SW universe take over and bring us more games-and movies.



Mazak ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 1:14 PM
Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 1:17 PM

Quote - A person with a weapon who cannot discern the difference between a samurai sword and a walking stick is a very dangerous person.

 

ERM..... wrong thread?



Winterclaw ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 1:19 PM

Eric, I blame EA for the travesty that SW:TOR was.  I'm guessing they are the big reason bioware's founders exited the industry.

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nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 1:42 PM

Quote - > Quote - A person with a weapon who cannot discern the difference between a samurai sword and a walking stick is a very dangerous person.

 

ERM..... wrong thread?

Responding to previous post. Sorry for drifting further off topic.


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 1:56 PM

ok but lets drop that subject before this thread gets locked. you just know it'll drift into areas that will cause huge fights.



RorrKonn ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 2:28 PM

I heard one of the reasons it took so long 83 to 99 to make star wars episode 1 1999.
George's divorce cost a lot of money.
So for a long time he didn't have the $$$ to make star wars episode 1 1999.

Tangled coast 260 million to make.I'll never get why it cost so much to make.
I would think Disney has the $$$ to do just about anything they want.

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 3:30 PM

Quote - ERM..... wrong thread?

Er, yeah... apologies. Ahem. That was ridiculously OT even by my usual standards I guess. 

Back on topic, I note that Lucas is being retained by Disney as a creative consultant.

That could mean anything of course. But it could well mean he still ends up having substantial input into the new episodes, 7 and on, being touted?


jerr3d ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 6:50 PM

Let's not forgot from the original trilogy George Lucas was the writer and director on only the very first Star Wars film. Other people both helped write the screenplay and directed the other two films, Empire and Jedi. Which I was surprised to find out.


Ridley5 ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 7:41 PM · edited Thu, 01 November 2012 at 7:41 PM

Attached Link: http://www.avclub.com/articles/gary-kurtz-outlines-original-darker-ewokless-endin,44162/

> Quote - Let's not forgot from the original trilogy George Lucas was the writer and director on only the very first Star Wars film. Other people both helped write the screenplay and directed the other two films, Empire and Jedi. Which I was surprised to find out.

 

That's true.  One of the strongest influences on the Star Wars trilogy was Gary Kurtz, one of the co-producers on the first two films.  He was upset about Lucas's claims that audiences no longer cared about character and story.  He parted ways with Lucas right before Jedi.  It's probably one of the reasons why Ewoks showed up in the third film.

Kurtz wanted to end the Jedi with a much darker tone.  He also pushed for the more mystical/spiritual elements in Star Wars, unlike Lucas who increasingly leaned toward the dark side of merchandising.

 


Winterclaw ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 9:03 PM

Quote - I heard one of the reasons it took so long 83 to 99 to make star wars episode 1 1999.
George's divorce cost a lot of money.
So for a long time he didn't have the $$$ to make star wars episode 1 1999.

I dunno about that, if he just mentioned star wars and prequel, he'd probably get the investors he needed.

His public excuse is that he wanted film technology to advance more so he could tell the story he wanted.  I kind of believe that, he as did become obsessed with the technoligical aspect.  One of the reasons why he didn't direct empire was so he could stay behind and focus on the effects stuff.

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wimvdb ( ) posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 10:57 PM

Quote - I heard one of the reasons it took so long 83 to 99 to make star wars episode 1 1999.
George's divorce cost a lot of money.
So for a long time he didn't have the $$$ to make star wars episode 1 1999.

Tangled coast 260 million to make.I'll never get why it cost so much to make.
I would think Disney has the $$$ to do just about anything they want.

Where did you see mentioned the divorce costing so much money not being able to make the prequels. As far as I know lucas could get any amount he wanted to make it

And what has Tangled to do with Lucas?

George Lucas is the second largest shareholder in Disney, so I will be surprised if he doesn't have anything to say about how the next Star Wars moves are made - especially if he is Creative Consultant.

Disney owns many movie production companies amongs others Marvel which released Avengers. I haven't seen any negative influence from Disney on that movie. So it might not be a bad move at all

 


RorrKonn ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 12:54 AM

ya I herd that they did not have the means to make 1,2,3 back in the day.
1998 Max & Lightwave was at version 2,3 something like that.
1 was made in 1999.so the CGI thing makes since.

I just said i herd ,it's all hear say.like the saying goes believe nothing you hear 1/2 way you see.
Think George got divorced in 83 you could google it.

But if Marcia Lucas got the gold mine & George got the shaft... in 1983.
How could he afford to make a movie.
just thinking out loud.

I guess my point was.
If they have 260 million to throw at tangled
then they have plenty of $$$ to throw at Starwars 7.

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Winterclaw ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 7:12 AM

EP7 doesn't need 250 million, it needs a plot and better characters.

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 3:28 PM · edited Fri, 02 November 2012 at 3:29 PM

Plot is always good vs evil.people ,gov.

George made a movie before starwars 1971 "THX 1138" during the vietnam war.
something like V for Vendetta & 1984.
 

Characters

Disney will get big Hollywood stars.
They fall in love while fighting the bad guys but can't be together for what ever reasons.

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wolf359 ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 9:52 PM

"I hope:
We get to go back to Tatooine again
There's another Death Star"

NO..NO & ......NO!!!!!!!

Sick of Anakin/Vader!!
Sick of  Obiwan,yoda.!!
sick of R2D2 C3PO.!!!

Dont we know ENOUGH of how their stories end??

I would like to see some real "prequels"as in the character rich universe of "knights of the old Republic" Era.

The origins of the the Sith/Jedi War.
the founders jedi /sith order.
instead of simply regurgitating the same stale old characters and "introduce them to a new generation" how about something new and fresh for All of us.

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Netherworks ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 9:59 PM

Quote - This is good news. It means there will be another Star Wars movie. Lucas wasn't willing to take on the effort and the risk at this point.

If it's a bomb, so what? The last trilogy wasn't exactly a jewel.

My thought exactly.  The last two movies had their moments... well "emo" moments anyways.  It can only go up from here, right?

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dorkmcgork ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 11:55 PM · edited Sat, 03 November 2012 at 11:58 PM

it's a good fit.  after episode 4 the show was tailored way way down to the little kiddies anyway.  sure the "luke i'm your father" thing was cool but the rebel army was cute teddy bears.  appearance for kids, some very lite content for very slightly older kids.  if you ask me there's not much difference between star wars and a typical disney show except that there's a lot more scope in star wars.

i read that lucas said that he's passing the story on to a new generation, and that's a fantastic thing for the franchise too.  after all, when a band is 20 years old, they just play retirement gigs for the next several decades.  they fall out of current style, and will certainly not forge into new territory.  star wars will become further immortalized with the passing of the torch, and more of a "folk tale" than a lucas arts tale.

 

thx 1138 was fantastic.  i actually am lucky enough to own a copy i found used at a blockbuster of all places.  really fantastic themes.

go that way really fast.
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LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 04 November 2012 at 1:21 AM

Watch for Mikey and Goofy in the new cantina scenes....

Laurie



lmckenzie ( ) posted Sun, 04 November 2012 at 3:12 AM

Alas, I never really understood the psycho-cultural gravitational pull of 'Wars any more than the zen of Macintosh, but I'm happy for its fans to have this new opportunity. Now if someone would just remake Flesh Gordon.

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