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Subject: i13 OVERHAUL for V4 and Perfect V4 Complete

Bendinggrass opened this issue on Nov 15, 2012 · 17 posts
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Bendinggrass ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 1:00 PM · edited Tue, 12 November 2024 at 2:30 PM

These great items are about to be on sale. 

Do these items do the same thing?

If there are differences, what are they and how do they affect the results.

I am wondering about which item to get.

Thanks.

R

3doutlaw ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 1:06 PM · edited Thu, 15 November 2012 at 1:06 PM

Good question, be nice to get feedback (assuming lurk position)

Bendinggrass ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 1:14 PM

Lurk position works very well... I have learned much through lurk position.....

JimTS ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 1:27 PM

Proper lurking is a form  not a simple position

A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket
Charles Péguy

 Heat and animosity, contest and conflict, may sharpen the wits, although they rarely do;they never strengthen the understanding, clear the perspicacity, guide the judgment, or improve the heart
Walter Savage Landor

So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?

Bendinggrass ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 1:54 PM

And a state of mind...... similar to the Gait of Power.............

hornet3d ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 2:13 PM

I am not sure on the i13 Overhaul but I do have the perfect series which I use with V4WM.  I find it works very well and I also like the way you can control the degree to which the effect can be applied.  Most of the time it is automatic but with certain poses the ability to adjust the level of the effect is very welcome.

From what I could see of Overhaul it serves very much the same purpose but perhaps other users can advise.  In my case I was happy with what I had with the perfect series and therefore was not looking for another solution.  If I were, I would certainly try Overhaul as I have a number of products from the same vendor and have never been dissappointed

 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

cedarwolf ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 3:40 PM

Interesting...gotta go look that up.

Prof_Null ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 3:52 PM · edited Thu, 15 November 2012 at 3:54 PM

I have both and can only echo what was said before: Perfect V4 is more adjustable - since I got it I have made all my V4 chracters with it, and now the updated "complete" system is out (easier to work with, one button to apply) I am even happier - the only sort-of problem is that it means I have not really tried i13's offering to compare it!

What i13 DOES have that XandM doesn't is a version for M4 as well. That is gold. Thanks to i13 for that !

I'll be watching this thread.

JimTS ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 8:02 PM

Quote - And a state of mind...... similar to the Gait of Power.............

More it's corillary The Calm Stillness

A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket
Charles Péguy

 Heat and animosity, contest and conflict, may sharpen the wits, although they rarely do;they never strengthen the understanding, clear the perspicacity, guide the judgment, or improve the heart
Walter Savage Landor

So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?

Xameva ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 9:22 PM · edited Thu, 15 November 2012 at 9:23 PM

I'm one of the creators of the Perfect V4 series - if you ever have any questions, feel free to send me a message. :) I won't list the differences or compare the two - but I recommend looking at the promo images, the feature list and what is included with each of the products to help you decide.

cedarwolf ( ) posted Thu, 15 November 2012 at 10:20 PM

No worries...you have me sold.  Waiting for payday.

moriador ( ) posted Fri, 16 November 2012 at 7:12 AM

I have both and use both, though not at the same time.

I think the Perfect series is better most of the time. But on some more extreme morphs, it just doesn't work all that well. And on others (with many 3rd party morph packs), I've noticed conflicts. It's then that I turn to i3's Overhaul.

PoserPro 2014, PS CS5.5 Ext, Nikon D300. Win 8, i7-4770 @ 3.4 GHz, AMD Radeon 8570, 12 GB RAM.

Dave-So ( ) posted Fri, 16 November 2012 at 6:37 PM

so perhaps better to say they compliment each other to a certain extent?

and is it possible to use them at the same time?

or even would you want to?

 

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

Eric Walters ( ) posted Sun, 18 November 2012 at 12:27 PM

Hi Xameva

I tested Perfect Thighs on V4-WM. I ran the Perfect Script, applied Booty To Thigh, then Perfect Thighs. Not so good! Although it DOES work beautifully on a stock V4.2 (looks good!).  It may be running afoul of the helper bones with V4-WM.

We put (The Team) a lot of effort into getting the thighs right with V4-WM (I was a fanatical beta tester).

I am going to try Perfect Booty on a new copy-I DO like the way that looks-better than V4-WM IMHO!

I wonder if anyone tried the perfect Elbows fix on V4-WM? The toes?


Eric Walters ( ) posted Sun, 18 November 2012 at 1:03 PM

Good news! The Perfect Booty morph works with V4-WM. I tried several poses. Giving it a more rounded look. Better IMHO!


Xameva ( ) posted Sun, 18 November 2012 at 3:50 PM

Quote - I wonder if anyone tried the perfect Elbows fix on V4-WM? The toes?

 I know the toes work for sure, and I remember someone saying the Neck fix/detail does well too. I'm not sure on the rest though - hopefully someone who has used V4WM with the fixes more thoroughly can answer your question!

hornet3d ( ) posted Sun, 18 November 2012 at 6:12 PM

I have used the Perfect series with V4WM, in fact I haven't used anything but V4WM since it was available.  I purchased each of the Perfect package as they became available and have not had a problem with any of the poses I have used.  As I stated before I have had to adjust the strength of the effect on some poses but I have never yet reverted to removing the Perfect morphs or using the non-weight-mapped V4.

Of course there may be some poses that do not work but I have not found them yet which is close on a year as I purchased the Perfect botty way back in Dec 2011 according to my order summary.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

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