Be cool if they made some mech's as cool as the transformers for us.

My girlfriend :-)

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LOL...good one ;)

Laurie

Quote - > Quote - My girlfriend :-)

LOL...good one ;)

Laurie

He probably had to say that.
She was probably looking over his shoulder making sure he wasn't looking at internet porn.

Yeah, holding a sword. ;-)

Any of my Dalek models, any of Mechmaster's Daleks, any of Billy-Home's Daleks.

Daleks in general and Daleks in particular.

I like Daleks, me.  Ho yus.  

V4~WM, Antonia~WM, D3 (not WM ).

lmk

As a DS user I'd have to say Gen................................3's :tongue2:

The Gen4's are to much of a PITFA with the EXP system.

As for Genesis, what I'd like to say would get me in trouble, so I'll just say it's to much of a pedo's wet dream for me, and leave it at that.

Jessi (she has a great body)

Quote - As a DS user I'd have to say Gen................................3's :tongue2:

The Gen4's are to much of a PITFA with the EXP system.

As for Genesis, what I'd like to say would get me in trouble, so I'll just say it's to much of a pedo's wet dream for me, and leave it at that.

And that bit of craziness isn't going to get you in trouble? I guess I would be nice to see a post where someone disagrees with something while actually sounding mature... then it could be taken seriously.

Don't take it personally Male_M3dia...no one is bashing you ;). Some ppl don't like certain things, no matter how it's said I guess. No changing it ;). It's as human as human gets.

Laurie

"… pedo's wet dream …"

Umm, OK … like to see the marketing department handle that one.

Yeah, not exactly a stellar choice of words. LOL.

Laurie

I also don't see how.  I must be naive. :)

Anyhow, Daleks don't need clothes, shoes, hair or textures.  That's got to be a good thing.  

Yeah, but getting them to come out of their shells can be a real pain! :blink:

Sincerely,

Bill

:lol:

I gotta ask what is the V4_WM version and where do you get it?

thanks :)

V4WM is V4 that has been weightmapped for better bending in Poser 9 and above.  It also uses fewer resources, since the JCMs and many magnets have been removed...

http://poserplace.phantom3d.net/V4.2WM/V4.2WM.html

Outfitter to convert V4 clothing to V4WM:

http://poserplace.phantom3d.net/PP_Outfitter/pp_outfitter.html

Both are free and Open-Source...

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Both are free and Open-Source...

Well, you DO have to have V4 already and you can't pass the V4WM mesh around to other peeps (same restrictions as the V4 original mesh). Just clarifying. LOL

Laurie

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Well, you DO have to have V4 already and you can't pass the V4WM mesh around to other peeps (same restrictions as the V4 original mesh). Just clarifying. LOL

Laurie

And not much support, considering the people that put it together aren't together anymore... so if something changes in poser that creates an error with it, you may not see it fixed.

V4WM doesn't really need much support considering just about everything for V4 will work with it.

If an update for Poser breaks it, I am sure it will get fixed one way or another.

That's kind of the point of it being open-source, isn't it?  The people who created it don't have to be the ones to fix it.

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Well the thing is, who would fix it? You've seen how the M4 version fell apart... and there's no K4 version. It's fine for people that have V4, but a really hard sell for someone that just coming into 3D... so it's not really a good all around solution.

Open source is only good when you have a pool of people that can take up the slack when someone leaves. If only one person knows how to fix it, it's pretty much a dead project when they're gone.

There are still enough people from the team active in the community to fix it.

There's nothing really to fix, and not much likely to break.

Quote - There are still enough people from the team active in the community to fix it.

That's optimistic; I've seen the moans in the V4WM thread about whether it's active or not like you have.

I've seen the moaning as well.

Were any of them on the team?

Male3D

Shvr was on the team and is familiar with how it works- there are others.

I don't see it either. Dense I must be!

Quote - I also don't see how.  I must be naive. :)

Anyhow, Daleks don't need clothes, shoes, hair or textures.  That's got to be a good thing.  

*"I don't see it either. Dense I must be!"*You have to go to the Dark Side of the Force, as Yoda said - or was it Dick Cheney?

It was probably a reference to the ease of creating sexy foot morphs - let's leave it at that.  

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Shvr was on the team and is familiar with how it works- there are others.

But none  can fix it but the ones that are gone at this time. Most of the people on the team just tested it. You need fixers, not testers.

I don't advise speaking without knowing. Scott is fully capable of fixing.

Just saying.

Quote - I don't advise speaking without knowing. Scott is fully capable of fixing.

Just saying.

Just saying too, otherwise there would be a M4WM.

This is just silly.  Nothing's broken.  If something were broken, there are people around with the skills to fix it.  Fixing something that's broken is a different matter from rigging a figure from the ground up.  And the fact that there is no open source, widely available M4WM doesn't mean no one is capable of making one. 

If we're venturing into the realm of wild speculation, what if DAZ goes out of business?  That would hurt V4WM a lot more than any technical change.  Sure, those of us who already have her would be fine, but no new blood coming in would be fatal in the long run. There's risk involved with non-open source, too.

W-Mapping is a tool like all other tools in your toolbox.
You use it when you need it.
When you do not need it, you do not HAVE use it.

Since nobody has mentioned her yet, I'll throw a vote for G4 into the hat. I'm not really sure why, but I find her fun to use. Maybe it's because she is a bit more forgiving because of her obvious toon attributes, it's much easier to keep her out of uncanny valley.

Quote - V4,M4, Anastasia and Tyler.

Ditto

In addition to SamTherapy's Daleks, I'm also having some, er, fun times with Lulubelle the Plushie at the moment... he he ;-)

Quote - Since nobody has mentioned her yet, I'll throw a vote for G4 into the hat. I'm not really sure why, but I find her fun to use. Maybe it's because she is a bit more forgiving because of her obvious toon attributes, it's much easier to keep her out of uncanny valley.

Just a note that G4 is not a standalone figure. Nor are the characters that Johnny Ragtop mentioned. But the line gets a little blurry with things that are radically reworked, like Anastasia. True, she is not a standalone figure, but so altered that it would be really misleading to say "Alyson 2."

Haha! Genesis?

Quote - In addition to SamTherapy's Daleks, I'm also having some, er, fun times with Lulubelle the Plushie at the moment... he he ;-)

Since we are getting silly-here are two of my favorite figures. It appears that Yoda may have a favorite figure of his own! :-)

Quote - *"I don't see it either. Dense I must be!"*You have to go to the Dark Side of the Force, as Yoda said - or was it Dick Cheney?

It was probably a reference to the ease of creating sexy foot morphs - let's leave it at that.  

Quote - > Quote - Since nobody has mentioned her yet, I'll throw a vote for G4 into the hat. I'm not really sure why, but I find her fun to use. Maybe it's because she is a bit more forgiving because of her obvious toon attributes, it's much easier to keep her out of uncanny valley.

Just a note that G4 is not a standalone figure. Nor are the characters that Johnny Ragtop mentioned. But the line gets a little blurry with things that are radically reworked, like Anastasia. True, she is not a standalone figure, but so altered that it would be really misleading to say "Alyson 2."

I guess a more accurate reference would have been to say the G4 version/morph of V4. I also like the original Girl (gen 3), but the Gen 4 version is much more flexible, and has much better content support "out of the box".

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He he... not Genesis, no... that is standalone Plushie figure Lulubelle, by LittleFox ;)

With some BB shaders applied.

The carpet-effect fleece is the BBCandyPaint shader, with added displacement...

The bending of these figures would really benefit from weight mapping I think... quite serious there. I think weight mapping lends itself to toon figures nicely, from what I've seen.

I suspect Teyon would back me up there...

Anastasia and Miki4 are my current favorites.

V4 (GND4 and Utopian Morphs...in particular), Aiko3, Eepo....and M4 in case I need a dude.

Just saying too, otherwise there would be a M4WM.

Lol... I have far to many other things to do right now. I'm working about 60 hours a week right now. And have other things that need finished as well.

If your so worried about M4WM, map it out and I will explain how you how to package it all up for the converter.

If not, someone will get to it sooner or later.

I will explain how to package it up to them as well.

Just curios why isn't My Michelle popular ?

I did see V4,Genesis on runtime front page but Michelle is 5 clicks deep.
That just struck me as odd.

Isn't Michelle weighted ,wounder if runtime is going to make a My Dude.
Genesis M4's weighted it's just easier to use Genesis M4's then to weight the old M4.
Not that Micheal ever gets used that much anyways.

Quote - Just curios why isn't My Michelle popular ?

My guess would be the UVing.

Quote - Just curios why isn't My Michelle popular ?

I did see V4,Genesis on runtime front page but Michelle is 5 clicks deep.
That just struck me as odd.

Isn't Michelle weighted ,wounder if runtime is going to make a My Dude.
Genesis M4's weighted it's just easier to use Genesis M4's then to weight the old M4.
Not that Micheal ever gets used that much anyways.

Well, this is a self-selecting thread.  In addition to that, the vendors that make products for My Michelle sell them over at RNDA.  Because of that, I suspect she gets less visibility here than she does over there.

Then there is the fact that like Antonia, she is doesn't get a lot of hand-holding.  She can be used by the "Load, Conform, Make Art" crowd, but her potential isn't truly released until you add a few python scripts to your copy of Poser 9/2012 (I love the PoserPython ecosystem.)