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Subject: Memory Increase


arrow1 ( ) posted Fri, 26 April 2013 at 1:59 AM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 4:01 AM

Does it help to increase the memory, program and page file in Windows 7 Ultimate? I often get "out of memory banner, increase Windows memory" I have 16 gigs of ram already and I do not know why this banner comes up! Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.


bruno021 ( ) posted Fri, 26 April 2013 at 3:10 AM

Is it related to Vue use? When does it happen most?

If you have 16 gigs of ram, there's more than enough imho.



arrow1 ( ) posted Fri, 26 April 2013 at 3:35 AM

Yes it is Vue related. I will admit I am using up to 6 Poser figures some M4,V4 and M3, V3 characters all animated in a Vue enviro! I believe it should handle that OK! Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.


bruno021 ( ) posted Fri, 26 April 2013 at 4:14 AM

Oh, 6 animated Poser figures is a lot, maybe too much...



arrow1 ( ) posted Fri, 26 April 2013 at 4:37 AM

Many thanks for your reply. I thought as much! Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.


aeilkema ( ) posted Fri, 26 April 2013 at 4:55 AM

I've got 6Gb on my laptop and it handles more then 6 poser figures without a problem. My last image has 11 figures, a mix of M4, M3, V4 and V4, clothed, morphed, hair and body textures, on top of that there are some props and on top of that 3 duplicated figures and a large fully textured building. So if I can do 14 figures with 6Gb, 16Gb should be more then enough for 6 animated figures.

Having said that, it depends on what you create around the figures in Vue. I've got another image, 2 poser figures and a building prop and I ran out of memory. Not because of the poser stuff, but everything I've created around it in Vue. On the building I first painted a leaved ivy and added to it a flower ivy. Painted grass and flowers and a moutain with an eco forest. I reached my 6Gb pretty fast and could not render the image on the laptop. No problem, since the scene is sent to a render-pc anyway.

So, it depends on the scene and it may not be the poser figures that are the problem, but what you've created around them in Vue.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk


Dale B ( ) posted Fri, 26 April 2013 at 5:16 AM

1st: Do you have 'Able to repose in Vue' or Using 'Poser Shaders' enabled? Both of those features require Poser to be running in the background and can eat up a chunk of memory.

2nd: Check the texture size from the Poser resources. SkinVue came to be due to fact that Vue has always had a problem dealing with the humongous textures that can be attached to a Poser figure. Depending on the characters, that many figures could have 2-4 4096x4096x32 bit color textures. Each.

3rd: Are you running a memory checker/cleanup program? Older versions of Poser were....dubioius, shall we say...at cleaning up after themselves. One of little freebie apps that tests your system ram and frees up real estate not in use was the only way shy of shutdown/reboot to make unused texture loads go away.

4th: Are you using a lot of procedurals in your scene? If so, you may not be 'out of memory' so much as 'out of allocation pointer space'.

5th: Are there any other programs running that could be gobbling bytes on you?  

 

 

 


arrow1 ( ) posted Fri, 26 April 2013 at 6:39 PM

1st. Yes I am running " Able to repose in Vue" and using "Poser Shaders enabled". Don't I need these enabled so I can repose Poser figures in Vue and retain their texture shading?

2nd. I do have SkinVue.Would this be a better option than using Poser SS?

3rd. I  run CCleaner and also AVG PC Tune up generally prior to opening both Vue 11 Infinite and Poser Pro 2012.

4th. I do paint a lot of trees plants etc plus animated water and eco system!

5th. As far as I know Only Poser and Vue are open when I am working!

 Thanks for your replies. Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.


aeilkema ( ) posted Sat, 27 April 2013 at 3:08 AM

I did a few renders comparing the various options you do have for importing Vue figures..... regular poser maps, SSS, Vueskin and Poser shaders enabled disabled. You can compare them and see if any is better or worse for your kind of work.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2428966&user_id=23722&member&np

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2429164&user_id=23722&member&np

Then there's number 4, that can take up lot's of memory. I would first import my figures as usual and see how much memory that all takes. If it takes up lot's of memory already, then you know what the problem is and you can try steps to decrease it. You don't need to repose in vue, you can do it in poser and vue will ask you if you want to reload the figures changed. It's a bit more work, but saves memory. Shaders may say you a lot of memory as well.

But if it's not the figures taking up lot's and lot's of Gb's of ram, then you know it's the rest. Instead of painting everything, see if you can make use of dynamic ecosytems instead, that will save you a lot memory, so you have enough left to render.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk


arrow1 ( ) posted Sat, 27 April 2013 at 5:53 PM

Thank you once again.I save my Poser figures as a .vob as soon as I import them! Is it necessary to make a preview of the animated Poser figure in Vue? I am assuming this would save some memory. I prefer the Poser SS Shader shown in your examples .I think I will stick to this! Also I will stop the repose in Vue and use dynamic eco systems. Just for the record I resize my textures down from original especially the M4 AND V4. Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.


thefixer ( ) posted Mon, 29 April 2013 at 4:40 PM

FYI...I always use Poser shader Tree when importing from Poser to Vue, Poser is never running when I do this, never has done....

But I have 32 Gig of RAM so comparison isn't going to work...

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