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Subject: Poser library jam?


Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 11:15 AM · edited Wed, 04 September 2024 at 9:32 PM

I have Poser 8. It also accesses the library left over from my Poser 4. I usually work in that Poser 4 library

Today it started not displaying my Poser 4 library properly :: e.g. controls including the slide were missing or did not work. This persised despite uninstalling and reinstalling my Poser 8.  Is this due to my Poser 4 library getting too big?

What is the allowed maximum size (in folders and in files) of a library under Poser 8? And under Poser 10?

Can I clear the jam merely by going into the Poser 4 library in the directory explorer and deleting some entries? Or what needs to be done?

Should I get rid of the Poser 4 library and transfer everything into the Poser 8 library? Or what?

Is it time I got Poser 10? How long would it take to come?

 

 


Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 11:33 AM

I have ordered Poser 10, to be delivered physical by snail-mail. I am in England.

 


McGyver13 ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 12:10 PM

Thats weird... I have a similar issue with my library not loading, just started today... See my thread that I posted a little before you.


McGyver13 ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 12:46 PM

I'm curious... when I disconnect from the internet my problem went away... Could you try the same and see if your problem goes away too.


hborre ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 1:54 PM

Anything updated recently?


Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 3:33 PM · edited Wed, 25 September 2013 at 3:37 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2873014&page=1#message_4107049

This is the other thread about this bug.

I got one successful Poser run just now, and I loaded a character from the library, but Poser crashed on render. Next run, the library did not appear.

Perhaps something official or unofficial (spyware?) on the internet is messing about with or poking about in people's Poser runs' libraries.


McGyver13 ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 3:38 PM

Yeah, thats what I was thinking... and why I tried turning off the internet.  


McGyver13 ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 3:48 PM

Here is something interesting... (stupid google)... I tried to do another search, instead of "Poser wont load libraries" or some version of that, I accidentally typed Poser 8 (I forget it is 8, its 2010 to me)... One choice that came up was "Poser 8 blank library"... Which led to this from SM: https://support.smithmicro.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2211/~/poser-8-blank-library 

I cant get their method to work... but its not a surprise since it only covers Internet Explorer and not Safari.

I hope this method works for you... but it shows there is some connection to something internet related.


Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 4:12 PM

I use Firefox.


WandW ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 5:46 PM

There was an update to Air the other day...

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SAMS3D ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 5:52 PM

Same thing happend to me today. No library.


WandW ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 8:27 PM

Here are archived versions of Flash if you want to give a previous version a try...

http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html

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shvrdavid ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 8:47 PM

You need to adjust your firewall settings to allow the library code to access the localhost (127.0.0.1)

When you disconnect from the internet, it allows the internal connection. Once you hook to it again, it is blocking the library.



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TheAnimaGemini ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2013 at 11:07 PM

Quote - You need to adjust your firewall settings to allow the library code to access the localhost (127.0.0.1)

When you disconnect from the internet, it allows the internal connection. Once you hook to it again, it is blocking the library.

 

A friend of me has the same Problem on both of her MAC. And it has nothing to do with her Firewall.

The Library stopp worked from one day to the next. She change no settings, nowhere.

I have some daubts about a worst Spyware they catch up somewhere.

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Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 12:33 AM

I am on a desktop PC, which automatically connects to the internet on boot-up. How can I drop the internet connection using keyboard and mouse?, rather than going on all fours behind my computer table and finding which wire and unplugging it.

See also:-

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=287301

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2873030


Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 8:58 AM

How long before things here are back to normal?


ratscloset ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 9:41 AM

How many of you are using Chrome and what version of Flash Player

This includes Mac, not just Windows.

ratscloset
aka John


Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 9:44 AM

Just now I unplugged my internet link (it is a "fast link" via a telephone line) & called a Poser job. The library window displayed blurred, overlain with an error window. I clicked OK on the error window, & the library came up OK & I did Poser work with it.

But with my internet link plugged in so I can post this message, the library fault is back.


WandW ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 9:51 AM · edited Thu, 26 September 2013 at 9:54 AM

Quote - How many of you are using Chrome and what version of Flash Player

This includes Mac, not just Windows.

 

For those who don't know him, John is on the SM Poser Support Team. 

If you are using Firefox, the Flash version can be found by typing about:addons into the address bar...

 

EDIT Whoops; for Windows, Poser uses the Flash plug-in for IE, so that might not be relevant under Windows...

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chohole ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 10:02 AM

Firefox and Flash 11.8.800.168   and Poser 8

 

Same problem

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McGyver13 ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 10:27 AM · edited Thu, 26 September 2013 at 10:37 AM

Quote - How many of you are using Chrome and what version of Flash Player

This includes Mac, not just Windows.

 I Don't Use Chrome, and my version of Flash is the latest update for Mac OS 10.6.8... updated two weeks ago...  (Adobe Flash website says I am using  11.8.800.168)


chohole ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 10:48 AM

My son has just checked as well and Poser 8 again, using FF and latest version of flash has the same problem on his laptop.

 

A friend is using P9 on a desktop, with Chrome and IE  installed and has no problems with the latest Flash version.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



McGyver13 ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 10:58 AM · edited Thu, 26 September 2013 at 11:07 AM

I feel bad for anyone using Google or Bing to search for this problem... I just googled a few of the search terms I used yesterday (in both) and neither Google or Bing found this, the other threads here at Rendo, or the 3 or four other threads I started about this at other sites... That pretty much sucks for someone who doesn't visit certain forums much.

 

Is anyone else able to confirm that disconnecting from the internet will load the library?

This could work as a short term solution...

 

Edited to add- For me, on my machine I do not find any problems if I reconnect to the internet AFTER the library loads... Poser works fine as far as I see... if I shut it down though, I will have to disconnect from the internet again next time I open it, to get the library to load... 

So if you just disconnect for the loading process, you can still use the internet... I'm doing it now... and Poser is still working.


Netherworks ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 10:59 AM

No Chrome.

Using Pale Moon (optimized Firefox build).

Poser 8 is frozen.  PP 2010 works but AIR is frozen.  Frozen in AIR means that it draws the frame portion but nothing where the libraries themselves show up.  Have to Task Manager destroy them.  Not responding is the message in TM.  The window doesn't fade like a hung app.

Poser 9 and higher all work perfectly fine, Pro or otherwise.

Win 8, 64-bit with zero issues elsewhere.

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WandW ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 11:26 AM · edited Thu, 26 September 2013 at 11:28 AM

I just dragged out my old laptop which hasn't had Windows Update run on it in quite some time, but Flash apparently auto-updated, as it is at 11.8.800.94.  WIndows XP 32-bit and Poser 8 and pp2010; no Chrome.

The Poser Pro 2010 external library doesn't work, either.  The Libraries do work if I disable my wireless card...

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home


WandW ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 11:47 AM

I ran Windows Update, and after rebooting I was prompted to install a Flash update, 11.8.800.175.  Same issues after installing the update...

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home


WandW ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 12:01 PM

For PP2010, I copied over the LSMGUI.exe and LSMGUI.swf files from PP2012 and the external library seems to work.

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home


chohole ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 12:03 PM · edited Thu, 26 September 2013 at 12:04 PM

OK, My son has Just run a trial, Downloaded 11. 8.800.94, uninstalled previous flash verson and installed that. Poser still had no libraries. He then unisntalled Adobe Air, and Poser is now working properly again

 

So it would appear to be something to do with the latest Flash and Adobe Air updates.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



WandW ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 12:06 PM · edited Thu, 26 September 2013 at 12:12 PM

I copied over the Runtime/ui/Flex directory from PP 2012 to Poser 8 and the P8 Library now seems to work...

 

EDIT, I reverted P8 to the original Flex folder, and simply replacing LSMGUI.swf with the PP2012 version seems to fix it, so that file is likely the culprit...

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home


WandW ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 12:18 PM · edited Thu, 26 September 2013 at 12:19 PM

file_498510.jpg

I tried running the original LSMGUI.swf in IE while Poser 8 was running with the PP2012 version, and the original version indeed doesn't work...

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home


SAMS3D ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 4:54 PM

Definately worked for me, again thank you WandW


ratscloset ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 10:28 PM

Anyone with this issue using XP or Vista?

Any that have not contacted Support, please do so.

ratscloset
aka John


ratscloset ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 10:43 PM

I know everyone has done this... but I am getting some reports of this fixing the issue this evening.

One, make sure your Poser 8 has the last Update installed (installed when Poser is not running)

Make sure your system is fully up to date

Also, make sure you have rebooted your system.

Those that had the issue and it has disappeared, please contact Support. Those that still have the issue, despite being fully up to date and having rebooted... please also contact Support.

ratscloset
aka John


Suucat ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 11:32 PM

Im on WinXP 32bit, PP2012, made a couple of renders a few days ago, i have everything up to date, Firefox, Flash, dont recall getting any problems from my Poser library.



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Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Fri, 27 September 2013 at 3:31 AM · edited Fri, 27 September 2013 at 3:32 AM

A few minutes ago I re-downloaded the Windows Poser 8 update, and inside the .zip file its content file was last modified at 18/05/2010 13:11 .


wimvdb ( ) posted Fri, 27 September 2013 at 4:14 AM

It is now fixed for me. I made no changes on my side (poser, flash or air)

You may have to reboot the machine.


Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Fri, 27 September 2013 at 4:57 AM

A few minutes ago I started 3 Poser jobs successfully while connected to the internet. It looks like that whatever set off all this nuisance, has been automatically updated.


Anthony Appleyard ( ) posted Fri, 27 September 2013 at 5:55 AM

Correction :: not quite. At the end of the job I found that I could not save the new character to library. So I saved the job to a ---.pz3 file, disconnected from the internet. and restarted the Poser job, and save-to-library worked.


WandW ( ) posted Fri, 27 September 2013 at 8:03 AM

After rebooting, the P8 Library now works on XP...

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home


McGyver13 ( ) posted Fri, 27 September 2013 at 9:17 AM

I have not tried saving anything to the library, but I have tried four successful runs at starting Poser Pro 2010 and having it successfully load the library.

I'll try saving a prop I'm working on, later on and see if that works.

 

So this was an automatic update/patch? 


McGyver13 ( ) posted Fri, 27 September 2013 at 3:59 PM

Boy did I word that previous post bady... I basically meant, I closed and opened Poser four times and it loaded the library properly each time...  Since then I have used it several times and saved a couple of props I made to the library as well. Everything seems to work now.


hindudreams ( ) posted Mon, 14 October 2013 at 10:19 AM · edited Mon, 14 October 2013 at 10:20 AM

i really hate flash. i miss the day when you didn't need flash for anything


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