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Subject: Rendo products not allowed on Second Life


EClark1894 ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 12:15 PM · edited Thu, 12 December 2024 at 1:02 PM

I have to admit that this doesn't really impact me that much, but it does make me wonder exactly what it is that Rendo believes is going to happen here. I'm not sure what that is exactly.

From what i read of the notice, Rendo believes that Second Life  will lay claim to the rights to products sold by Rendo simply because users upload  those products to Second Life for use by their virtual people. Can SL just claim the rights just like that? Especially when the users don't really own the rights to the products anyway. So how can they




WandW ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 1:14 PM

I didn't see the notice, but the Rendo' license allows distribution of 2D renders, not 3D meshes. By uploading the products to SL or incorperating then into a 3D game, the mesh is being distributed....

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Joe@HFG ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 1:32 PM

Does SL not allow Rendo Products, or does Rendo not allow SL?

mo·nop·o·ly  [muh-nop-uh-lee]
noun, plural mo·nop·o·lies.
1. exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market,
or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices


LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 1:43 PM · edited Thu, 26 September 2013 at 1:47 PM

Linden Labs recently changed their license, and I have to say I don't blame Rendo for their stance. The "license, EULA" whatever ya wanna call it, has some really scary stuff in it. In a nutshell, Linden Labs claims that whatever you upload to their game is theirs to use in any way they see fit until the end of time.

Section 2.3.

Laurie



Penguinisto ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 2:34 PM

I'm still amazed that anyone actually plays Second Life. Thought that silly thing died off eons ago...

 


Joe@HFG ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 2:51 PM

I tried to play around in it. But everyone was really snobbish about teaching you how to model for the game. So I was out.

mo·nop·o·ly  [muh-nop-uh-lee]
noun, plural mo·nop·o·lies.
1. exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market,
or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices


LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2013 at 3:21 PM

Quote - I'm still amazed that anyone actually plays Second Life. Thought that silly thing died off eons ago...

 

I have better things to waste my time on...lol.

Laurie



monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 01 October 2013 at 8:28 AM · edited Tue, 01 October 2013 at 8:28 AM

I barely have enough time for my first life... ;-)


IsaoShi ( ) posted Tue, 01 October 2013 at 3:37 PM

To be fair, the waste of time and silliness is down to what people themselves do, not the environment in which they choose to do it.

SL is just another virtual social environment that incorporates different types of activity and creativity to the likes of Facebook, Twitter, etc... and, let it be said, Renderosity! It is probably one of the least restrictive of such environments, in that, within the development framework available it is entirely the product of its inhabitants - which is precisely why it reflects the whole spectrum of human endeavour and folly, and attracts such adverse comment.

It was wanting to do SL animation modelling and AO (animation overrider) coding that led me to discover Poser a few years back. I made some real, life changing friendships there in the three years or so that I was a 'resident' - including, it could be said, Poser itself!

Back on the subject, I believe the point that Linden Labs are really trying to make is that the Second Life environment is effectively public domain, so residents who own licenced content have no business uploading it there in the first place. Their aim is to stop the illegal distribution of such content by their residents, not lay claim to it.

Izi

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EClark1894 ( ) posted Tue, 01 October 2013 at 5:31 PM

So they lay claim to it to stop it, even though they don't want to lay claim to it, but if they lay claim to it it will stop.

Oww! My head hurts!




meatSim ( ) posted Wed, 02 October 2013 at 10:17 PM

Quote - I barely have enough time for my first life... ;-)

 

Quote of the the day!!!

I might actually be interested in a 2nd life it I could somehow tagteam with it to accomplish what I need to do in my 1st life!!


RorrKonn ( ) posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 11:20 AM

I've never played or worked for SL ,don't know anything about SL.

Second Life store has cloths for L$450.00

So L$450.00 is SL play money ? you get in the game ?

So if you sold SL stuff you only get SL play money and no real world money ?

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WandW ( ) posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 12:47 PM

It's a bit under L$270 to the US Dollar...

https://www.xstreetsl.com/index.php

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Medzinatar ( ) posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 1:13 PM

Quote - I've never played or worked for SL ,don't know anything about SL.

Second Life store has cloths for L$450.00

So L$450.00 is SL play money ? you get in the game ?

So if you sold SL stuff you only get SL play money and no real world money ?

Exchanging L$ for real world currency is subject to certain limits.
My personal limit is USD 2500 per month via PayPal.

Limits vary for residents of different countries, but payment is made in their local currency.



RorrKonn ( ) posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 1:53 PM · edited Thu, 03 October 2013 at 1:54 PM

Well the stuff made for SL would be real easy to make.
But to sell stuff at a US $1.00 or two at a time ,
Wow, ya would need a lot of sells to make a living at it thou.

 

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Medzinatar ( ) posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 2:16 PM

Agreed, selling small items would be difficult.
Early on in SL, there was opportunity to buy "Land" at reasonable price.
Price of desireable parcels has increased along with rents for people who wish to rent space for stores or other activities.  After expenses (tier assesments, similar to condo association fees) there is possibilty for moderate cash flow.

Not all sales in SL are graphic items.  Real world (tangible) good and services are done because of country neutral payment system.  Shipping something internationally is often easier than transferring money to pay for it.



LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 4:22 PM

o.O

Like is said...I got enough problems in my RL. LOL

Laurie



monkeycloud ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 2:04 AM · edited Fri, 04 October 2013 at 2:10 AM

When they can augmented reality overlay second life over the boring bits of my first life, so that the symbolic actions in my second life still somehow, simultaneously, cause my real life body to accomplish those more mundane, but necessary actions, I'm in...

;-)

Well... ok, the fear of waking up to find the world is being run by evil machines that are sucking my life energy to fuel themselves, may keep me out still...

:-/

...on the other hand... probably same difference?


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