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Subject: Speed Tutorials on You tube


EClark1894 ( ) posted Thu, 26 December 2013 at 5:43 PM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 2:48 AM

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I hate speed tutorials.  I have to gleen what little information I can from watching the damn things a million times and the either there are no vocal instructions and some crappy music or some capsulized vocals telling you what they did but not HOW they did it. I thought that was the whole point of a tutorial.




EClark1894 ( ) posted Thu, 26 December 2013 at 5:48 PM

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I'm trying to use a speed tutorial to help me make some mesh hair I can use in Poser. I can't keep up and I'm still at best and intermediate beginner. I don't know all the short cuts and hot keys that these people use. If they's slow down at least to half speed, then MAYBE I could pick it up better.




Adom ( ) posted Thu, 26 December 2013 at 5:57 PM · edited Thu, 26 December 2013 at 5:58 PM

hahaha, I know what tut you're trying to follow (looking at the hair :) ) - I downloaded it and watched in slow motion.

Just let me find it and maybe I'll be able to help you with shortcuts because I almost finished it (almost:) )

 

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got it - blenderella 04


Lobo3433 ( ) posted Thu, 26 December 2013 at 5:59 PM
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Hi EClark

Here is a hair tutorial that is more than an hour long that might be more worth while perhaps help you more than the speed one you mentioned above

 

Hope it helps

 

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EClark1894 ( ) posted Fri, 27 December 2013 at 6:28 AM

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Thanks Lobo. I finally decided to go with a hair tutorial I found for Hexagon. It translated well enough to Blender for me to do this mesh.  Now can some one tell me how everyone always gets such clean lines in their poly mesh? Mine always looks like a five year coloring outside the lines.




Lobo3433 ( ) posted Fri, 27 December 2013 at 6:35 AM
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That looks pretty good not sure what you mean by clean lines then again only on my first cup of coffee this morning if you can be a bit more specific maybe I can help some or hopefully someone else will chime in as well

 

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EClark1894 ( ) posted Fri, 27 December 2013 at 6:49 AM

The lines just look a little distorted and crooked, that's all.




heddheld ( ) posted Fri, 27 December 2013 at 7:59 AM

select what you need "tidying" up

then in edit mode hit W then pick smooth of list

can do it a few times but watch mesh if you overdo it

it can make a mess else where ;-)


EClark1894 ( ) posted Fri, 27 December 2013 at 9:05 AM

Thanks heddheld. I think that's the Smooth Vertex command, right?




RobynsVeil ( ) posted Fri, 27 December 2013 at 2:26 PM · edited Fri, 27 December 2013 at 2:27 PM

I'm with you, EClark - not fond of video tutorials: hard to reference, move too fast (and that's not even the "speed" tutorials) and they often leave important steps out. PDF tutes would most-probably be seen as actually more time-consuming to make, because you have to research and think about what you're writing down more. Video permits more shoot-from-the-hip blow-by-blows.

I'm not saying there's no place for video tutes: however, I really like that Andrew Price usually suplements his videos with a PDF. In his "Academy" series, the option to have a PDF jacks up the price, which tells me they're a lot of work!

Nice work on the hair, BTW!! 😄

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heddheld ( ) posted Fri, 27 December 2013 at 2:52 PM

sounds like the right name ;-)

is very useful when making clothes

 

as for the tuts I'd do the same as Adom, just d/l at watch at a slower speed

but some are a bit too messed up to be any use to anyone lol


EClark1894 ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2013 at 3:14 AM

Quote - I'm with you, EClark - not fond of video tutorials: hard to reference, move too fast (and that's not even the "speed" tutorials) and they often leave important steps out. PDF tutes would most-probably be seen as actually more time-consuming to make, because you have to research and think about what you're writing down more. Video permits more shoot-from-the-hip blow-by-blows.

I'm not saying there's no place for video tutes: however, I really like that Andrew Price usually suplements his videos with a PDF. In his "Academy" series, the option to have a PDF jacks up the price, which tells me they're a lot of work!

Nice work on the hair, BTW!! 😄

The problem is that most speed tutorials seem to assume that the viewer has the same level of skill as the person doing the tute. Hell, if I had that much skill I probably wouldn't NEED the tute.




Lobo3433 ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2013 at 10:51 AM
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Having written a PDF tutorial I will say yes more work but in the long run I found it more satisfing to do because there were a few extra steps I personally learned along the way. I truly dislike speed modeling so called tutorials because really they dont show or teach anything. I find that Andrew Price's tutorials amongst the best ones because he speaks at a pace that you can puase stop review and really get allot out of them but shame his style is not a standard for making video tutorials.

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EClark1894 ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2013 at 2:49 PM

Unfortunately I don't have the extra $18 a month to join Blender Cookie as a citizen right now, so unless they make some of their tutorials free I have to use what's available.

Plus another thing that's bad about ome of these video tutorials is that they're fuzzy. It's bad enough that some of the interface type and graphics is so small, but when they're fuzzy, the narrator's not saying much (I'm looking at YOU, Blenderella) and the video is going at super-speed, I'm lucky I can understand what I do understand.




RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2013 at 4:52 PM

I guess the best way to learn from conventional video tutorials is to do a lot of stop-and-go and take notes. No clue how one can derive much from speed tutorials, which to me seem more of an ego-stroke than anything useful.

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unbroken-fighter ( ) posted Sun, 29 December 2013 at 3:39 AM

for those that know the software better than they know anything else some speed tutorials are somewhat educational and for those like me they are no more than a challenge on doing it faster

but for those learning the software they are as clear as black paint in a pool of mud

the cgcookie site is so far the better of the sites i have personaly found and i suggest them to anyone

as far as changing the interface to make it easier for the rest i will forever vote against it

if you want to learn the program learn it the way it is


RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sun, 29 December 2013 at 4:09 AM

Quote - as far as changing the interface to make it easier for the rest i will forever vote against it if you want to learn the program learn it the way it is

Any particular reason?

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unbroken-fighter ( ) posted Sun, 29 December 2013 at 4:25 AM

would you redesign your ownself because someone else wasnt in favor of it?

they re-adapted belnder several times to make the learning curve less steep for beginers and when they went to the level of the 2.5 series they went too far for me

i love the new additions in the tools and abilities but i absolutely hate the interface because as long as i have been using the software it was never changed this dramaticaly


EClark1894 ( ) posted Sun, 29 December 2013 at 5:59 AM

It changed? I know some new features were added, but frankly, I haven't seen much of a change.




RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sun, 29 December 2013 at 6:26 AM

Quote - would you redesign your ownself because someone else wasnt in favor of it? they re-adapted belnder several times to make the learning curve less steep for beginers and when they went to the level of the 2.5 series they went too far for me

i love the new additions in the tools and abilities but i absolutely hate the interface because as long as i have been using the software it was never changed this dramaticaly

Fair enough. I was just curious. 😄

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RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sun, 29 December 2013 at 6:30 AM · edited Sun, 29 December 2013 at 6:35 AM

Quote - It changed? I know some new features were added, but frankly, I haven't seen much of a change.

HUGE changes, EClark, particularly when you're comfortable with the 2.49b interface. Blender is a very hot-key-driven work environment: once you get it, you wonder why other software doesn't work like that.

It really got under my skin they (BlenderFoundation) got rid of - or rather, drastically changed - the spacebar function, one that I depended on a lot. But I've grown used to the new interface, and really, really love Cycles and the node system for materials.

Unfortunately, some changes - like in Python - break what went before, so I do sympathise with what Unbroken's saying.

And some stuff - like when you import an OBJ with texture image references - is just nuts. Let's say you have an OBJ of a building imported from another software with say 100+ textures (the one I'm currently working on is a 'Victorian Building' with 134 texture files associated with it, to be exact). Some of these get re-used, meaning they are applied to more than one region on the OBJ. Blender imports these texture files -- as references? -- say, for 5 regions, as:
myFile.jpg
myFile.jpg.001
myFile.jpg.002
myFile.jpg.003
myFile.jpg.004
NONE of which actually display on the mesh in Texture or Material mode. I'm probably doing something wrong, but my workflow has been to navigate to the texture image file, which then gets loaded with the name: "myFile.jpg.005"... this at least displays on the mesh.

So yeah, I'd like to see THAT improving. :biggrin:

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Willber ( ) posted Mon, 20 January 2014 at 12:55 PM

I like the speed tuts. They are really more for work flow than what button to push.

Having the correct work flow is very important.


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