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Subject: EZMat


bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 12 February 2014 at 8:37 PM

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Latexluv ( ) posted Wed, 12 February 2014 at 8:51 PM

Very, very cool! Looks great BB!

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Hana-Hanabi ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 12:20 AM

Hey, BB...what sort of dress do you want? 

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TheAnimaGemini ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 11:31 AM

Amazing stuff....

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 4:19 PM · edited Thu, 13 February 2014 at 4:33 PM


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 4:44 PM

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Here's a Gingham tile to practice with.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 4:47 PM

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Here's how to use it to make any colors you want.


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vilters ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 5:08 PM

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Good work BB. Unfortunately a setup like this is very sensitive to moiré.

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vilters ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 5:13 PM

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Softening the colors, and experimenting.

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 6:23 PM

Quote - Good work BB.
Unfortunately a setup like this is very sensitive to moiré.

set Texture Filtering = Crisp.


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Hana-Hanabi ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 7:10 PM

I'm on it, BB. ^_^

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vilters ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 11:36 AM

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Texture loaded at GC 1.000, set to crisp.

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Rosemaryr ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 12:03 PM

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Here's my version (MD rendered) of the gingham dress.   Dresses are so much easier than tailored men's-wear!

 

 

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 1:36 PM

Quote - Texture loaded at GC 1.000, set to crisp.

You also have to have min shading rate set well - like .2 to .5 is how I usually have it.

If you really don't intend to zoom in on the cloth, then you should reduce the resolution of the tile in some 2D editor so those individual threads get blurred.

I'm finding this is a better way to handle these Loom textures - having two or three different size tiles and skipping the procedural completely.

I am thinking about automating this so you can generate procedurals OR image tiles at the push of a button.


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vilters ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 3:48 PM

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Here an example with MSR at 0.5

The moiré gets reduced with MSR 0.2, and it is better, but it is still there.

Only a single Infinite light in the scene.
And NO, Unfortunately, I can NOT render with Raytraced shadows.

Raytraced shadows and dynamic hair together in one scene makes Poser pp2014 "hang" at the end of a render with some buckets not released to screen.. (Reported)

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 4:40 PM · edited Fri, 14 February 2014 at 4:41 PM

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> Quote - like .2 to .5 is how I usually have it.

Right so .5 is not how I have it when .5 doesn't work. I only have it at .5 if it works at .5. Try .2.

This is .2 and there is very little moire. At .1 there is none, but I understand that is extreme.

As I said, if you are going to routinely stay far from the cloth, convert it to a lower resolution tile that is a little blurred.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 4:45 PM

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.5 = bad for this one.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 4:45 PM

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.1 = good


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 4:46 PM

Quote - Here's my version (MD rendered) of the gingham dress.   Dresses are so much easier than tailored men's-wear!

 

 

Lovely!


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vilters ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 4:52 PM · edited Fri, 14 February 2014 at 4:55 PM

Agree on all acounts BB.

My only point was; "The setup is sensitive to moiré".

(I have some experience in the printing business)

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Hana-Hanabi ( ) posted Fri, 14 February 2014 at 11:23 PM

I had to cuddle a sick 5 year old all day today, but I'm still working on my take on the dress. ^_^

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Hana-Hanabi ( ) posted Sat, 15 February 2014 at 1:00 AM · edited Sat, 15 February 2014 at 1:08 AM

Will this suffice, BB? Each different color is a different mat zone. I can make more or less zones for you if you wish. It has princess seams, and (as you can see) a separate waistband. The skirt is a full circle skirt, so it will show the bias angles of cloth just as a real circle skirt will. You can slap a procedural or patterned texture on it, and it should look like it was cut off a bolt of fabric. I have not gone through the trouble of trying to align things in any way that would suggest pattern matching (As it would be pattern matching for a single pattern/scale and everything else would be off), but I have kept them upright so that you can use one-way patterned textures.

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Sat, 15 February 2014 at 6:29 AM

Also lovely! I would find this useful as well as Rosemary's.

"You can slap a procedural or patterned texture on it, and it should look like it was cut off a bolt of fabric."

Exactly what matters!


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Sat, 15 February 2014 at 4:40 PM

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A big "thank you" to Ladonna, who gave me some silverware props to demonstrate BBMetal. I have been working on the metal set for a long time. An EZMat version is just the ticket to make it easy to apply.

This is my stainless steel - nice, but too clean. Now that I see it on a realistic prop, I feel it is necessary to make it have scratches. Hmmm..

 


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Sat, 15 February 2014 at 4:41 PM · edited Sat, 15 February 2014 at 4:43 PM

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By the way - the last bit of photorealism must come in postwork. Shaders cannot simulate the bright highlights bouncing around in a system of lenses and Poser's "camera" has nothing in it to cause it to behave like a real camera. So a little postwork is necessary to make the highlights glow properly as in a photo and also to tweak exposure level a little because re-rendering with more light over and over is just too tedious.


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TheAnimaGemini ( ) posted Sat, 15 February 2014 at 10:04 PM

Quote - A big "thank you" to Ladonna, who gave me some silverware props to demonstrate BBMetal. I have been working on the metal set for a long time. An EZMat version is just the ticket to make it easy to apply.

This is my stainless steel - nice, but too clean. Now that I see it on a realistic prop, I feel it is necessary to make it have scratches. Hmmm..

 

 

It was a pleasure BB to help you out.

 

This Metall shader is fantastic. I agree, with some little little scratches like real silverware.

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Sun, 16 February 2014 at 8:03 AM · edited Sun, 16 February 2014 at 8:11 AM

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I'm practicing techniques using a couple scratch and stain maps I downloaded. Once I get the shader handling these correctly (almost there) I'll see about making the scratches and stains procedural.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Sun, 16 February 2014 at 12:29 PM

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Workin on it. Here's the state of the procedural scratches and water spots.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Sun, 16 February 2014 at 1:21 PM

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More progress.


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piersyf ( ) posted Sun, 16 February 2014 at 7:19 PM

I can't wait for this... it's going to make fixing old Poser scenes so much easier and faster!


TheAnimaGemini ( ) posted Sun, 16 February 2014 at 8:59 PM

This scratched metall is my fav so far. Endless possibilities.

This plug in will be a must have. Will give all the renders a new incredible quality.

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Anthanasius ( ) posted Mon, 17 February 2014 at 4:13 AM

Very very very good jobs men, cant waiting for the first release.

 

Now i've a challenge (i hope :biggrin: ) for you BB, wool and denim shader :tongue1:

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Zaarin ( ) posted Mon, 17 February 2014 at 12:04 PM

And I have another that I've been dying for. Rough leather/rawhide.


monkeycloud ( ) posted Mon, 17 February 2014 at 2:03 PM

Quote - More progress.

Very nice BB :-)


BDDesign ( ) posted Fri, 21 February 2014 at 1:59 PM

Is there a scheduled release date yet for this?


infinity10 ( ) posted Sat, 22 February 2014 at 10:54 AM

I probably need this EZMat item sooner than later.  Awaiting its release.

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Tessalynne ( ) posted Sun, 23 February 2014 at 12:01 PM

Oh my!  EZMat and likely all its plug ins will be a must have for me.  Bet I'll be broke forever, but it will make pulling together different scene elements much easier.  I'm hoping that someone will also do a wood plugin.  Sure hope to see a release of some of this really soon so that I can try it out.


Snarlygribbly ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 2:16 AM

My apologies for not being very active here lately.

I don't want to go into details, but my domestic life has recently been thrown into turmoil and, moreover, my body has recently decided to reject the long-term medication I've been using and my health is deteriorating rapidly. I'm expecting good news on both fronts soon, but right now things are pretty difficult.

Anyway ... an update:

I have two specific code additions I want to make to EZMat, and my intention is to get them in place by the end of next weekend.

At that point I shall provide a release candidate to beta testers.

While they're doing the final testing I shall produce the User Guide, Developer's Guide and EZMat API Reference documentation.

I guess a release target of mid to late March is on the cards, then.

I'm sorry it's taking so long to get to market, but I'm sure it's going to be worth the wait :-)

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vilters ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 4:43 AM

Thank you for the update sir.

Please take care of yourself.
Your own well being is most important and allow us to wish you all the best for a full recovery on both fronts.

Yes, with all the new options available, a complete and end user friendy manual, will be required.

Best regards, and a big "thank you" for all the hard work.
Tony

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infinity10 ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 5:16 AM

@Snarlygribbly -

Rest well, and get better first.

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TheAnimaGemini ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 9:01 AM

Thank you rthe info and please get well soon.

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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 11:44 AM

best wishes for a speedy recovery!



Faery_Light ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 12:58 PM

My tongue is hanging out in anticipation of this set, my hope is that I can afford it when it is released.

Since losing Mom and her share of finances it is hard to buy anything.

But even if Mom had no finanaces of her own I'd still want her here if it didn't mean she'd suffer.

I know your family must feel the same and I hope your health improves soon.

Snarlygribbly, please take care of yourself, that is important. :)


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 10:58 PM

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> Quote - I'm hoping that someone will also do a wood plugin.

I will.

I have visited wood many times over the years and each time I figure out some more about it. This time is no exception.

This is not my best wood grain pattern (it's actually pretty trivial) but what I'm experimenting with here is new for me:

  1. The planks are completely random in length and position

  2. The finish is more complex than just a simple blur. The blur varies with viewing angle. I had noticed this effect many times when I took pictures of things that are glazed.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 11:01 PM

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 11:20 PM

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This is nice but I think I have to figure out how to get those spoon scratches into the wood, too.


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piersyf ( ) posted Mon, 24 February 2014 at 11:43 PM

I have no idea how you're doing that, but to add to the debate... wood can be oiled or sealed with an acrylic. Both give different wear patterns. Scratches in a clear layer over the top of the wood for a used acrylic? Wear patterns are an issue then... masks?

The 'lint' on your fabric (BBLoom?) might be a starting point for wear on an oiled wooden floor? Certainly be a possible dust layer...


mr_phoenyxx ( ) posted Tue, 25 February 2014 at 12:08 PM

SnarlyGribbly - Take care of yourself first. We all want EZMat yesterday, but we can wait. Get yourself healthy first!

Bagginsbill - As usual, those look absolutely amazing!


Tessalynne ( ) posted Tue, 25 February 2014 at 5:50 PM

BB, that is great, I bought some furniture I didn't even want just to get some of your Wood mats. :)

 

SnarlyGribbly, please do take care of you first and foremost.


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