What on earth happened?

I just logged in and the site looks really bad and the usability is even worse than before!
Poor Roxie can't even figure out how to post a rant about it (though that's probably a good thing)!

Please put the old one back and improve upon it, what's the point in going backwards? :InsertTotallyPuzzledSmileyHere:

I hope this is an experiment cause seriously, this new design is enough to drive a person insane.  Whitespace and formatting is absolutely awful to the point it's actually less readable even with a larger font, and usibility is below substandard to say the least.

You should have let me design it for you!

... it's not working either.

I can't even see this thread from the Poser Forum Index so it looks like I'm talking to myself - wheeeeeeeee!
I suppose an easy way to check for sure is to piss-off the mod.

Shane drives a Robin Reliant!

Oh, and I might post some 70's porn later.

Yeah! Talk about a forum down grade indeed.

 Don't think they will go back, they never have in the past, but there might be a few tweaks.

 Don't understand why there is never any warning of changes.  Even the spell checker in the forums has been slipped in silently.

Just be patient guys. They're still working on it all. 

 I guessed they were still working on it but it was a bit of a shock particularly as it affects the forums and the Marketplace.  Some sort of warning might help, although I accept it would not stop all complaints.

I laughed my rear off at all of Bagginsbill's threads. Still chucking over those.

Just cuz Daz is coding a new site don't mean Rendo gots to. I thought the last MP upgrade was excellent (The forum, well.... maybe not so much).

I could have made more, but I figured I'd done enough.

The search failure is egregious. No way that was tested at all. I at least unit test my work (search for ANYTHING and see if it gives me an answer). 

I've seen better from the teenage kid next door.  This is hideous. 

Obviously you're not a fashionista... Didn't you hear? Hideous is the new black   ;o)  LOL

(and the little round avatars - oooo, they're so twee!  Although they forgot to add that de rigueur shiny effect that makes them look as if they're little raised buttons... :oD )

I'm an old guy with bad eyes but I am not blind. I am confused though and befuddled. That or I'm getting senile. I've lost the ability to tell the difference between a Post, Quote, and Sig. It's all the same size and font. This old bear is going into hibernation. I'll come back in the spring and see if things are any better. Every time the site changes it feels like months till it gets back to something I can deal with.

I haven't visited Rendo for a while.  So this change has happened recently?  I had to check my web browser to see if the zoom was set at 200%.  Nope!

Bloody hell, so the thread finally appeared on the index!

Argh, that's a shame, and I hope you all wiped your feet properly before you entered.  Roxie and I had bookmarked this thread (thinking it would remain lost and secret) and were hoping to use it as a secret stash for multiple-image posts.  We can't do than now, not now you lot have seen it because it proves it's public, can't a person have any privacy around here?

BTW, does anyone have a link to BB's thread?
Again, I can't see it listed so for me it'll probably show up in two days time!

I understand that these changes do not like, I do not like either,  but I think it's not so dramatic, usually these things are arranged in a few days, while,  if the letter is very large you can do (ctrl + -) and move away zoom using the zoom a bit
Nothing is so serious as to "stop posting until they change the layaut" or suchlike
perhaps the best we can do (some already are doing) is to report bugs and have a little patience,

I cant start a new thread I can only post in existing ones I have no access to sitemail so apologies to user RSWman I am NOT ignoring you!! if you are asking about the knee brace I modeled/offered you post an email in this thread or contact me at seraca30@gmail.com

Report bugs.  How does one go about reporting the revamped/revised (I won't say improved because it is in no way an improvement) as a bug.  If this were April 1st, I'd consider it an April Fool's joke.  Since it's November 1st, it's just plain bad.  Poorly planned, poorly designed and poorly executed.  Given all the problems (ebots and notifications aren't working, sitemail is down again, quotes and other fonts are the same as the post font so it becomes difficult to differentiate) I get the feeling this wasn't actually tested "live" on a test system before it actually went "live".

@Wolf
Just in case you're not aware of it, you have to go to the Poser Forum Index and click that new "Manage" button near the top right.

It'll give you a dropdown to start a new thread, and when you post, be sure to select "Poser" from the thread dropdown, otherwise your new thread might end up on a totally different area of the forum :-D

Forget my request to see Baggins' thread, a whole bunch of them just suddenly appeared on the index :-D

Wow... this is dire :(

I haven't even been here since not long after the last change to the MP because it was so hard to use. Came back today and the site, especially the forum.....wtf? The forum looks like the text has been done by a kid with a stumpy crayon! This is supposed to be an art site? Bleurrgghhh.

 Well they are still working in it - the manage drop down is gone and now there is a "+new thread" button.

 1/2 the first page is threads about the new site look.

1/2 the thread post page is about the new site. do we really need 20 different threads on one subject ? 

 ya so the sites wrecked like a rock band stayed here but the maids will clean it up 

I got a spell checker & a page # highlight .I got every thing I wanted.

I'm good with the new site.

Just so you know, I posted this thread days ago but it only just appeared, days later!
BTW, where's the spell-checker?

 1/2 the first page is threads about the new site look.

1/2 the thread post page is about the new site. do we really need 20 different threads on one subject ? 

 ya so the sites wrecked like a rock band stayed here but the maids will clean it up 

I got a spell checker & a page # highlight .I got every thing I wanted.

I'm good with the new site.

 

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Yes we do because each is a different subject worthy of a separate discussion regarding solutions. I am surprised at the lack of outrage that search is completely not working - it just produces the same results no matter what you search for, or where, or by whom.

 The lack of outrage over the lack of a search function might be because it was never any good before but taking it away was not the answer, particularly when there is so much valuable information stored here.  Having no search function is like have a massive library with all the books shelved randomly.  No good having lot of information available if you cannot find it when you need it.

There's nothing like having a large widescreen monitor and have everything jammed into the middle.

I missed the search not working but now that it's been brought up, yes, I am PO'd about that.  Just more proof that nothing was checked out before they decided to roll (shove, kick) it out.

Just so you know, I posted this thread days ago but it only just appeared, days later!
BTW, where's the spell-checker?

The spell checker appears to be there by default, just misspell a word and a red wavy line appears, right click on the word and you have a choice of correctly spelt words... well as long as you are somewhere near a word.

@Keith
To be honest, I'm glad the forum is fixed-width, it's always better to know that everyone else sees posts in the same way, and reading really long lines of text always feels odd and really annoying anyway.  I was damn glad when DAZ ditched the old adaptive-width forum and went to a fixed-width one, it's about the only thing they got right when they launched their new forum!

@Hornet
Cheers, I thought that should be the case but I'm not getting that, must be my settings.

Have to say, while most people will likely welcome a spell-checker, I think it's the end of an era, I got a lot of laughs out of some of RorrKonn's posts.  I mean there's "typos" and there's "RorrKonn typos" - and RorrKonn typos are a breed of their own - they're not like regular typos.  I've cracked-up a fair few times reading some of his posts, I don't know how he does it but there's something especially funny about RorrKonn's typos, there just is.

I for one am really gonna miss all that, it's the end of an era unless he switches it off :-D

Holy Moley!  All I can say is wow...  Forum body isn't too bad (except that... why not scale to window width percent?) but the forum post listing is all Fisher-Price huge.

When I first saw the new "style" I thought that my connection was acting up and the page wasn't loading correctly. Sadly I was mistaken and they've decided to design the site based off the advice of someone who's obviously trolling us. This really can't be what they want it to look like, can it?

Also.... lofr my avatar. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH the eyes. hahahahaha

To be honest I'm really kinda enjoying all this, it's livened the forum up a bit :-D

That said (and without wanting to sound intentionally rude to the developers), I'm pretty taken back at how bad the design is.  I'm sure the system itself it pretty neat, well thought out, what's "under the hood" etc.  But wow, the design aspect of it is pretty damn atrocious.  I'm a designer myself and wouldn't dare let a design like this loose on the public.  What I find even more strange is that even with this new design, the designer still hasn't grasped the fact that the "Top of Forum" button needs to be placed both at the top and bottom of each page, not just the top.

Simple design logistics alone should tell a designer that a thread page only can grow in length, therefore the "Top of Forum" button is always going to be needed most times closest to the last post made in a thread.  In other words, it needs to be at the bottom of each thread, not the top.  Bottom of thread placement should be standard issue, but also placed at the top for convenience.

The designer had it backward in the old design, and yet again in this one.

 Aaaargh!!!  Who squeezed my dog?

 -How can you improve things when you don't make mistakes?

With all of the mistakes they've made in the forums over the years, the improvements owed should've made this the most advanced and beautiful forum on the entire internet.

p.s.: I know that I've quoted your sig, rather than your actual post.

Personally, I like the round avatar thing, since it fits my wheat-penny perfectly.

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I know your post was one of the first ,it's why I posted on it,
wasn't going to post on the 6th thread .6 threads about the forums is a bit much. 

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if I had time I would use google to spell check a word ,if I had time.
but there not type o's .I don't know spelling or grammar.
but it's gotten a lot better since 1998 ,a lot.
as a Artist I didn't need reading righting till 1998.
that was the hardest part for me learning to CGI.
still can't read manuals good enough to do me any good.

today we can all read and right but in the past only the rich ,privileged ,royals did.
it bloody took 10,000 years but I really like that every one peasants and all can read now.

now if they would only learn to think for them self's now .
hope that don't take another 10,000 years.

wheatpenny : how do you make a round .jpg ? I can only make quad ones.

pumeco : click that arrow on the bottom right of each post. ;)

I'm saddened that the only thing the developers failed to do this time was change all the fonts to comic sans. But reading the forum as it is -- is like eating cake without icing. I want my comic sans!

Though, I must admit, I do like the fact that whenever you post something, you get a cheerful green banner at the top informing you that...

Success! The post was created successfully.

... as though it's a bit of a surprise that it worked at all and therefore quite worthy of congratulations. :D

Edit: All this reaffirmation might even work to drag me out of the pit of despair yet! 

Edit2: Success! The post was updated successfully.

(This could become addictive.)

Well, in that case, here's a message for the webmaster:

Failure! The forums have been updated needlessly & unsuccessfully.

LOL, yes, if they wanted forum lurkers to post, mission accomplished!

I also wondered why under the posts there are icons to decipher (quote, print, etc) when there certainly is enough room to make text buttons.  Also the "report" button doesn't have a tooltip so it took me a moment :)

This mess is all my fault.

You see, I complained once too often about the broken page numbers when viewing a long thread. I raised it last year (nothing happened), a few more times this year (was essentially told to stop whining because a workaround existed) and then I complained again in that survey a while back. One question asked for suggestions to improve the site - I said there's no point if suggestions are clearly ignored, and I explained the page number issue yet again.

And now this! The page numbers appear to be fixed, which is pretty amazing really, but there seems to have been ... a bit of collateral damage.

When Shane says "Be patient, they are working on it" you probably shouldn't hold your breath, the page number repair took about 13 months!

Hey, here's a thought: Maybe the Rendo website designer is secretly on the payroll of another large content site, they are paying him under the table to bungle these 'improvements'.

I stare aghast upon my screen
What is this mess, can it be real?

Someone somewhere is to blame
Let's stalk the admins, inflict the pain

Tina could be one to blame
She's lookin' evil all the same

It could be Kim in driving seat
But then again, she's so petite

But someone somewhere is to blame
Let's stalk the admins, inflict the pain

I hear they all like whips 'round here
It's just as well I have one here!!!

Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade

I'm an old guy with bad eyes but I am not blind. I am confused though and befuddled. That or I'm getting senile. I've lost the ability to tell the difference between a Post, Quote, and Sig. It's all the same size and font. This old bear is going into hibernation. I'll come back in the spring and see if things are any better. Every time the site changes it feels like months till it gets back to something I can deal with.

 Jeesuz man....get some glasses!  During my last trip to the optometrist's I had her give me the closest diopter for each eye (1.25 left, 0.5 right).  I ordered a bunch of each strength from eBay that where the same style then swapped the lenses to give me a bunch of glasses.  I leave these all over the house and have a pile in the garage.  I even taped a pair into my welding googles.  The expensive 'paid for by the insurance company' ones are used on the computer at home and at work.   And yes, I agree that the new forum is garbage.  I'm asking content creators to move to RDNA as I won't be buying here anymore.   While I've never had the slightest problem with the store, the forums are badly run.

 the text size in sticky and thread titles. might be a bit on the large size maybe same size as posted text would be good.

Personally, I like the round avatar thing, since it fits my wheat-penny perfectly.

how do you make a round .jpg ? I can only make quad ones.
iiiii

Actually, the jpg is square (a wheat penny on a white background), but the round avatar shape fits the penny precisely.