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Subject: Thinking about buying a graphics tablet


EClark1894 ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 4:51 PM · edited Fri, 03 January 2025 at 1:24 PM

Okay the title pretty much says it all. I'm thinking about buying a graphics tablet, ostensibly to help me with my modeling in Blender, and texture work in GIMP. So, I have a couple of concerns.

a. Price--  I'm looking for a basic graphics tablet for the purposes mentioned above. I don't necessarily need one with a lot of features, but on the other hand I also don't want to pay $500 for a tablet that gives me what one costing $50 will.

b. I've never really used a graphics tablet before. How much better is it than a mouse? I can see where it might be very useful for illustrations but I don't do illustrations, and unless Apple brings back MacDraw, I probably won't be doing much of that. So how much do I need one?




AmbientShade ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 5:42 PM

get a wacom bamboo. It's a good starter tablet and they last a long time. Wacom is about the best you're going to get from a tablet. My old graphire 4 is the precursor to the bamboo and it's over 10 years old, still works just fine. I upgraded to an Intuos pro med. last summer just cause I wanted a bigger work area and more pressure sensitivity. You should find Bamboos at best buy or just about any other electronics store for around $100. Can get them on ebay used for less. New ones usually always come with free software like Photoshop Elements, or Corel Draw, etc. 

You wont get the same features from a $50 tablet that you will in a $500 tablet. 

How much better is a pencil or a paint brush compared to a mouse? 



Letterworks ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 5:59 PM

I recently purchased a Wacom Intuos Pen and Touch, the "medium" sized for about $200.00 at a Staples store. It replaces a cheaper tablet I bought off of ebay. When I moved up to Win 7 and Zbrush the older tablet basically didn;t work right any more, causing crashes etc. The Wacom has be perfectly behaved and was easy to install. I has a very nice "feel" almost like writing on paper. It can be upgraded to wireless by buying a part cosing about $35 dollars. The only down side I see so far is that it didn;t com with any new pen tips, but they only cost about $5-$8 for five tips.


vilters ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 6:50 PM

 I have a Wacom bamboo too. LOL.
And I have a BIG Silverstar.

Both good tablets to work or play with, but when it gets serious-serious? => The mouse takes over.
Buy one, you can not go wrong with a Wacom bamboo as they do not cost an arm and a leg, but do not expect too much.
Its in the fingertips, the mouse or tablets are helper-tools to get it on screen.
Ha-ha-ha-, and in the end? 
The mouse always wins.
Just my 2 cents (after 4 years of use)

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moriador ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 7:58 PM · edited Mon, 05 January 2015 at 7:59 PM

I've been using my Wacom graphire for over 10 years now, too -- actually may be closer to 15 years. They last a long time. 

My thoughts:

If you've never used one, don't get a hypersensitive one. Some of the added features may actually be more annoying than useful. As everyone suggests, get a Bamboo.

Size: if you're an artist who likes to make sweeping motions with the pen, the way you would on a reasonably large sketch pad, then a big pad is what you want. If, on the other hand, you tend to use very tiny strokes in a super detailed way, then a smaller pad is what you need because you'll find on a big pad that you need to make bigger motions to move the same distance over the same pixels. This is why I prefer a smaller pad. (And also why starting out with a less expensive version is the best option.) Some artists will do best if they have more than one size and switch between them. :)

You'll wonder why on earth you didn't get one earlier. :) 

But I'm with Tony. In many instances, the mouse is still a very good tool. (Except for 2D drawing, where I find a tablet to be absolutely essential.)


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Glitterati3D ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 9:36 PM

You do realize the weight map and morph tools are pressure sensitive, correct?

When I start my weight maps (have large areas to cover) I use the pen.  When I get to smoothing process, the pen is heaven and doesn't paint as heavily as the mouse where you need some small smoothing.


EClark1894 ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 8:14 AM

 Weigthmapping and morphing are another reason I'm thinking of getting a tablet. I've wanted one for years, just never went out and got it. Okay, Office Depot seems to have a Waccom Bamboo but they have at least two types called Bamboo, a 450 and 670.




vilters ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 8:39 AM · edited Tue, 06 January 2015 at 8:51 AM

 Mine is a Wacom Bamboo MTE-450A. I like it. But it is an older and discontinued model.
L"ll have to google the 670.

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heddheld ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 8:42 AM

 Office depot sounds like an online shop ? if you have local stores that carry bamboo's go see if you can hold one in your hands

theres nothing like the feel of something to help you make your mind up

my first one was huge (bought the biggest I could afford lol ) hated it , although technically its much better then my smaller one the small one is much easier to use and don't forget its only a tool and a tool your not happy with is a pain in the ***


vilters ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 9:05 AM

Same here, I prefer the Little Bamboo over the large Silvercrest one.
The Silvercrest has more options and should theoretically be better.
But as I wote above; Pesonally? If the going gets tough, I grab the mouse.

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EClark1894 ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 10:45 AM

 Office depot sounds like an online shop ? if you have local stores that carry bamboo's go see if you can hold one in your hands

theres nothing like the feel of something to help you make your mind up

my first one was huge (bought the biggest I could afford lol ) hated it , although technically its much better then my smaller one the small one is much easier to use and don't forget its only a tool and a tool your not happy with is a pain in the ***

Office max is online but I also live near a store.




FVerbaas ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 1:37 PM
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I can only say: buy it!

I have an old Wacom Graphire for my earn-a-living desk I use two times a day and an Intuos pen and touch for Poser, Paintshop and everything else. I use them whereever I can in lieu of a mouse. The pen is a real play-thing for me. Helps a lot to prevent carpal syndrom, at least for me it helped to prevent progress.

The M size is perfect for what you want. Smaller just is too small. Larger is just not practicble. 

The Bamboo tablet line here in the Netherlands at least is being phased out. They just have the Bamboo pad. I had a Bamboo Fun&Touch but last September spilled tea over it and it sadly died. Bought the Intuos M, now at Euro 170.- retail price, and love it.


Letterworks ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 3:18 PM

I believe the Intuos Pen and Touch line has replaced the Bamboo but I'm not positive. In any case the M size I have has a nice weight, not too light so it stays were you put it but not too heavy if you want to stick it in your laptop bag. I is metal rimmed and has a bursh aluminum(/) drawing area. Plus, as I said earlier it can be converted to wireless with a simple plug in add on.


EClark1894 ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 4:01 PM

 Well, I also live near a Staples store. I'll probably stop by one of them tomorrow and check things out. Although I believe Ofiffice Depot has the Bamboo line and Staples seems to have the Intuos.




Paul Francis ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 4:55 PM

If you've never used one before, a tablet will revolutionise your Photoshop/2D/postwork. Here in the UK, I can only afford a cheap one - Aiptek.  Watch out for Aiptek though - the tablet works fine, but the pen monitoring software (ATWUSB.EXE) seriously conflicts with Poser and causes Poser to crash each time I try to load it.  If I disable ATWUSB.EXE before launching Poser it's ok, but it's a pain and then needs to be relaunched when you want to use the tablet.  I've given up producing any artwork now, but if I ever start again, I consider a tablet to be a must for postwork. 

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obm890 ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 5:03 PM

I think almost any graphics tablet is better than a mouse for drawing/painting, but the big advantage of sticking with Wacom is the good drivers/software. I had a small cheapo tablet before this one (Genius, I think) and it worked well enough when new, but they didn't provide updated drivers for later OS, so it was useless when I upgraded.

I use a Wacom Intuos3 9x12", I bought the biggest one I could afford, but if I replaced it I probably wouldn't go quite so big next time - it takes up a lot of desk when you need to access the pad and the keyboard simultaneously. A wide format tablet is an advantage if you work on 2 monitors, it means you can access some of your second screen using the tablet. This is handy for applications where your workspace is on one screen but you need to access layer lists etc on the other screen without having to involve the mouse.

Take good care of the drawing surface, scratches will feel very unpleasant under the stylus. And adjust the stylus pressure for a light touch, it'll be easier on your fingers, on the stylus tip and on the drawing surface.



joequick ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 11:28 PM

I started out with what must have been a graphire back around 2000, a couple years later i upgraded to a big purple intuos. I used both mainly for drawing.  By the time I started putzing around with 3d I'd switched over to Toshiba tablet laptops with active digitizers and wacom drivers. A temperamental Portege m400 which only lasted a couple years and then an M750 which I've been using since 2010.

A couple years ago I also picked up a entry level cintiq.  

I still find myself using the M750 a great deal and recently ordered a ram expansion for it to try to squeeze a few more years of life out of it.  It's a cintiq like experience and the differences in pressure sensitivity don't make a lot of difference in any of the work I've ever done, either 3d or illustrative.  I really only ever sit down at the cintiq when I'm doing texture/displacement work in zbrush and need the superior power of the pc it's hooked up to.

So, moral of story, maybe keep a tablet laptop with an active digitizer somewhere in the back of your mind too.

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AmbientShade ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 12:13 AM

Yeah I'm glad I didn't go with the 9x12. I was going to as it was only $100 more, but the medium (6x9) is plenty big enough for me, and takes up a good bit of space on my desk - which is rather roomy to begin with. 

It did take some getting used to, switching from the graphire to the intuos, due to the massive increase in pressure sensitivity. My kit came with 10 additional tips and the wireless adapter, but for some reason I still have to use the cord cause trying to boot up with the wireless adapter in my PC takes forever. And it doesn't charge wirelessly so you still have to plug in the cord every so often. So I just leave it plugged in. 

I wish I could afford a cintiq. But I hear the surface scratches if you breathe on it too hard, so I'll be waiting until they hopefully get a more durable glass. At $2K a pop they shouldn't scratch so easily. 



moriador ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 3:23 AM · edited Wed, 07 January 2015 at 3:23 AM

Agree with the Wacom drivers. For some reason, I had to re-install drivers for my decades old graphire recently, and the most up to date ones they had were for Vista. LOL. Not bad, considering that I had just "upgraded" to Windows ME when I got the thing. They were fine. :) And it still works like a dream though, despite the fact that the tablet has had thousands of blackberry jam and cream cheese bagels sitting on it over the years, has suffered more than its fair share of coffee and hot chocolate rings, and I've never replaced a pen tip yet. It's probably time to do that, though. Occasionally the pen gets a bit sticky in places. But that might just be the jam. ;)


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pumeco ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 7:36 AM · edited Wed, 07 January 2015 at 7:37 AM

@Clarkie
I think getting a graphics tablet is a good idea, but be very careful about your choice on size.  I'm currently between tablets (I don't own one right now), but I started off with a very early Bamboo, then upgraded it to a later one, and both of them were the small size.  Inbetween all that I tired a larger one and absolutely hated the thing and sent it right back, in fact I hated it so much that even the small sized Bamboos feel more bulky than they needs to be now.

Be very weary of getting a large or even medium tablet because the chances are, it'll drive you nuts.  As you've never had one before, the best way to think about it is that when you hold a pencil or move your mouse, what do you notice about the amount of movement when you draw something or write your signature?

Exactly, your arm doesn't move, your wrist stays in one place and you merely draw or write by moving your fingers around.  Check out how much area you actually need to do that and you'll find it's well within even the smallest size tablet area.  If you get a medium or large you'll end up wanting to lay it on the desk and use it, and that's very annoying because you can't twist it like a piece of paper unless you're holding it, and until you experience that, you won't realise how disorientating and irritating it can be.  Doesn't matter whether you want to sculpt in Blender, write, or sketch - get one as small as possible is my advice, because you'll want to hold it rather than rest on it, and believe me, holding even a medium tablet is an absolute pain in the arse :-D

Small and managable is the key to enjoyable graphics tablet usage, for me anyway.  Think of a small one as having a nice compact pocket sketch pad, but think of the larger ones as trying to handle a large newspaper on a very windy day - no thanks ;-)

One final pointer (and ignore this at your peril), is to make absolutely sure you set up the response area and sensitivity/speed correctly for your own use.  It will ask you to touch the opposite corners of an imaginary square, and when you do that, be sure not to exaggerate, just relax and do what feels natural because this is how the tablet adjusts to how much movement you have on your fingers when holding the pen.  Don't be tempted to touch the outer limits of the work area, you must do what feels right to you, because that's what'll make it feel comfortable and purpose made for you.  Take the time to experiment with the setup before you start using it, get it right and you'll enjoy the tablet.  Get it wrong and you'll want to throw it out of the nearest window!

The smaller the better, and set it up correctly, that is all ;-)


moriador ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 2:08 PM · edited Wed, 07 January 2015 at 2:09 PM

Yep - this is my experience with tablets too. (I never bought a bigger one, but I've inherited a couple that I rapidly passed on to other people.) The bigger ones are really meant for people who want to recreate the feeling of painting on canvas with largish brush strokes and actual movement of the forearm. My MIL was a painter, as she loved her massive tablet (and her 42 inch monitor -- LOL). But I couldn't use the big tablet (wouldn't have minded the monitor, though).

I do all my work on the computer in a somewhat reclined position, feet on a foot rest, keyboard or tablet on my lap, mouse on the armrest. So holding the tools was never something I felt I wanted to do. But, indeed, you do have to make sure that the tablet keeps a consistent orientation. If you twist it a bit too much sideways, you'll wonder why on earth your pen won't move in the expected position since everything is relative to the surface of the tablet, not the pen (unlike a mouse -- where the orientation of the mouse pad doesn't matter at all). For me, this does make some drawing motions a bit more difficult -- for instance, a left to right downward diagonal -- because as Pumeco noted -- when I used to draw, I'd always turn the canvas or sketchpad to accommodate the orientation of my hand. You can't do that with a tablet -- at least, you can't with any that I've used.

But if you're using a small tablet, this issue is minimized. You still need to maintain the orientation of the tablet, but the motions are much smaller, so it's not nearly as noticeable.


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EClark1894 ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 2:16 PM

Went to the Office Depot and Staples stores today to see about the tablets. Found out two things: the Staples store had closed up  and Office Depot doesn't carry the graphics tablets in store. I have to order it online.




FVerbaas ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 2:20 PM
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Sounds like a recommendation to Wacom: make it possible to define the direction of 'below'.


joequick ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 3:13 PM · edited Wed, 07 January 2015 at 3:13 PM

"I wish I could afford a cintiq. But I hear the surface scratches if you breathe on it too hard, so I'll be waiting until they hopefully get a more durable glass. At $2K a pop they shouldn't scratch so easily. "

I've only got one small scratch on mine, I think it came from my wedding band when i absentmindedly swiped imaginary eraser dust off the screen.  

with the cintiq and with the tablet pcs, using the felt tip stylus heads seems to reduce wear. I never noticed any damage to the protective screen on my first portege, but I think they changed materials for the second model i picked up.  over time i slowly wear through the layers where the rotate icon is in zbrush.  It's a part that can (and has) been replaced.  It's not a problem I've had with the cintiq yet.

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hborre ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 3:29 PM

Comparison shop with Amazon, you might find a good bargain.


pumeco ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 4:26 PM · edited Wed, 07 January 2015 at 4:28 PM

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I think those WACOM Cintiqs are fantastic, especially the new large version, what a beautiful machine, I wish peasant me could afford one sniff :-(
And to think, rich kids get them for Christmas ... b*stards :-P


RorrKonn ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 4:56 PM

a few comments about software. with out software stabilization ya lines with be jittery .

i know ya not inking comics but for exsample ,say if ya out line a comic.will look like a nervous chihuahua drew it  with out  software stabilization.

don't know about gimp,photoshop but  i know artrage ,sketch book, manga studio 5 all have software stabilization tool.that help with jitters. 

but 

manga studio 5 has "figure draw tools" there killer for perfect lines :)  a lot faster then photoshop/gimps path tools .

 ---

don't know about blender sculpting tools but zBrush has sculpting stabilization tools.


99.9% of the time I use manga studio 5 the $47 version.

smithmicro magna studio 5 & clip studio pro 1 is the same app.

I think wacom might have a manga version that has manga studio 4 that comes with.but I'd defiantly up grade to 5 thou .

 

 

 

 

 

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EClark1894 ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 5:29 PM

Okay everyone, thanks for the advice. I just put in my order for a Wacom Bamboo Capture tablet from Amazon. Not a bad price either. I'll get it next week.




RorrKonn ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 8:05 PM

 

 pumeco quote

I think those WACOM Cintiqs are fantastic, especially the new large version, what a beautiful machine, I wish peasant me could afford one sniff :-(
And to think, rich kids get them for Christmas ... b*stards :-P

 

Blender & Gimp makes poor kids rich :) 

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Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
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Kendra ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 10:53 PM

Wacom bamboo, all the way. 

...... Kendra


moriador ( ) posted Thu, 08 January 2015 at 12:58 AM · edited Thu, 08 January 2015 at 1:01 AM

Went to the Office Depot and Staples stores today to see about the tablets. Found out two things: the Staples store had closed up  and Office Depot doesn't carry the graphics tablets in store. I have to order it online.

Staples must be having a bad year. I was so happy when one opened up downtown (about 3 blocks from where I live). It closed late last year. :(  It was located on the same block as another office supply store, so that might have had something to do with it. But as I live very close to the courthouse, traditional office supplies are a necessity in this part of town. We ordered six leather 3-way adjustable wheeled office chairs with armrests from them because the salesman told us they were on sale for $50 each, and they turned out to be a third of the price of dining chairs (and ten times more comfortable). The salesman was quite wrong. It was a much cheaper model that was actually on sale. (The ones we got were on sale for $299 each.) But Staples honored the sale, even after they'd delivered the cheaper ones. Maybe that's the kind of thing that resulted in closure. But we do have a set of great chairs -- which are perfect for epic D&D sessions. :)


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jura11 ( ) posted Thu, 08 January 2015 at 1:13 AM

If you've never used one before, a tablet will revolutionise your Photoshop/2D/postwork. Here in the UK, I can only afford a cheap one - Aiptek.  Watch out for Aiptek though - the tablet works fine, but the pen monitoring software (ATWUSB.EXE) seriously conflicts with Poser and causes Poser to crash each time I try to load it.  If I disable ATWUSB.EXE before launching Poser it's ok, but it's a pain and then needs to be relaunched when you want to use the tablet.  I've given up producing any artwork now, but if I ever start again, I consider a tablet to be a must for postwork. 

Hi there I'm living too in UK and I would have a look at PC World offers,they have now for £39.99 Wacom Bamboo or for £59.99 Wacom Intuos (CTL-480S-ENES),I was looking on Bamboo,which is right now cheapest at PC World 

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura


moriador ( ) posted Thu, 08 January 2015 at 1:39 AM

If you've never used one before, a tablet will revolutionise your Photoshop/2D/postwork. Here in the UK, I can only afford a cheap one - Aiptek.  Watch out for Aiptek though - the tablet works fine, but the pen monitoring software (ATWUSB.EXE) seriously conflicts with Poser and causes Poser to crash each time I try to load it.  If I disable ATWUSB.EXE before launching Poser it's ok, but it's a pain and then needs to be relaunched when you want to use the tablet.  I've given up producing any artwork now, but if I ever start again, I consider a tablet to be a must for postwork. 

I only noticed your post properly when Jura quoted you.  What's this business about "if I ever start again"?

A much needed break is fine, Paul. But you'd better not be giving up making art forever! Poser galleries across the web need you. :) And your images have been a solid inspiration for many of us for a long time, as well as a very pleasurable diversion.


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RorrKonn ( ) posted Thu, 08 January 2015 at 2:08 AM

EClark1894 quote

Okay everyone, thanks for the advice. I just put in my order for a Wacom Bamboo Capture tablet from Amazon. Not a bad price either. I'll get it next week.

 

it's different for every Artist but we all have a adjustment time till we get use to tablets.

so don't get discouraged it's worth hanging in there till ya can get the dang thing to do what ya want ;) 

different tablets and app's can make a huge difference also. 

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cgWiz ( ) posted Thu, 08 January 2015 at 12:09 PM

Just to add that if you need line stabilization (and many of us do, if only to save the hassle of cleanup later) you should check out Lazy Nezumi:

http://lazynezumi.com/home

Works with Photoshop and about any other 2D/3D soft you may use, including ZBrush and has a lot of cool features, including perspective lines/constraint drawing !


moriador ( ) posted Fri, 09 January 2015 at 1:33 AM

Just to add that if you need line stabilization (and many of us do, if only to save the hassle of cleanup later) you should check out Lazy Nezumi:

http://lazynezumi.com/home

Works with Photoshop and about any other 2D/3D soft you may use, including ZBrush and has a lot of cool features, including perspective lines/constraint drawing !

Sweet! Looks like a great plugin at a reasonable price. Thanks for the link.


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RorrKonn ( ) posted Fri, 09 January 2015 at 2:02 AM · edited Fri, 09 January 2015 at 2:04 AM

 cgWiz quote

Just to add that if you need line stabilization (and many of us do, if only to save the hassle of cleanup later) you should check out Lazy Nezumi:

http://lazynezumi.com/home

Works with Photoshop and about any other 2D/3D soft you may use, including ZBrush and has a lot of cool features, including perspective lines/constraint drawing !

 

sadly Lazy Nezumi Pro is just a Windows app & EClark1894 uses gimp on a mac, thou gimp could defiantly use Lazy Nezumi Pro

smithmicro magna studio 5 for windows or mac & has the same tools as 2D Lazy Nezumi Pro built in to MS5 and

manga studio 5 also has "figure draw tool curve" it's wicked .

99.9% of the time I just use MS5 but i'd use  "figure draw tool curve" no matter what app I'd use.

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Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
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vilters ( ) posted Fri, 09 January 2015 at 5:39 AM

Having 2 tablets, i did a test last night.

For Poser and for Blender, the mouse won hands down. There was no competition al all.
What I mostly missed on the tablet pencil in Blender was the mouse "middle button" and the "rotating wheel".
The tablet pensils did not have those, and this slowed work down to a crowl.

For texturing work, (Gimp) it was about even. The tablets won on pressure sensitive usability. the mouse won for controllability.

For pure painting work, and photo touch up? The tablets won hands down.

hope this helps

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Fri, 09 January 2015 at 11:25 AM

& computers and phones with touch screens now.

I'd never care to draw on a phone but ya can now. the rotary phone has come a long long ways.

I haven't gotten a detachable notebook & don't know how I'd like it but it's a option now.

ya can get a 10 inch full PC with touch for $350.00  and that's all ya need. oh and a finger I guess.

more can afford that ,then a tower,screen,mouse,wacom etc etc $1000's 

 

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FVerbaas ( ) posted Sun, 11 January 2015 at 9:16 AM
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To be honest about my favor for tablet: I use Poser with a 3D mouse for camera movement.

Of course when the interface is designed to make maximum use of middle mouse button and scroll wheel, mouse has the advantage.


EClark1894 ( ) posted Sun, 11 January 2015 at 10:40 AM · edited Sun, 11 January 2015 at 10:41 AM

To be honest, the tablet is to help improve my texturing work more than anything, and when I finally get back to it, post work on my web comic. We'll see soon though. It's supposed to get here by Tuesday.




pumeco ( ) posted Sun, 11 January 2015 at 1:24 PM · edited Sun, 11 January 2015 at 1:34 PM

@RorrKonn
Yeah, but ya gotta be skilled with ya artisticness mate, even with ya Blender and ya GIMP, and unfortunatley I ain't very artsiticly talented :-P

@Clarkie
Just so you know, it's an accepted initiation process that when a man get's his first WACOM, he has to draw his fantasy woman.  It can be tasteful of course, but it is still expected of you either way.  In view of this, and you not being the type to break tradition, we look forward to seeing your first doodle :-D

Yeah, listen, Clarkie only wants a WACOM cause he saw how good my handwriting is and he's jealous!!!
I know it's hard to believe, but I really did it with a mouse!!!

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Sun, 11 January 2015 at 4:35 PM

pumeco we know you have talent but

since when has talent been a prerequisite to be a filthy rich Artist ? for reference Pablo Picasso.

get some rectangles and cylinders and get a rock block  texture and ya have a castle

or some dental floss for a Roxie bikini 

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pumeco ( ) posted Mon, 12 January 2015 at 4:50 PM

@RorrKonn
Well I have some technical talent, but I'd swap it in a heartbeat for some artistic talent if I could ;-)


moriador ( ) posted Mon, 12 January 2015 at 5:56 PM · edited Mon, 12 January 2015 at 6:02 PM

pumeco we know you have talent but

since when has talent been a prerequisite to be a filthy rich Artist ? for reference Pablo Picasso.

get some rectangles and cylinders and get a rock block  texture and ya have a castle

or some dental floss for a Roxie bikini 

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 EClark1894 helpful for texturing

 http://www.allegorithmic.com/

 http://quixel.se/

What makes you say that Picasso didn't have talent? Is it that you simply don't like the style of his most famous paintings? Is it because you have the typical person's preference for "realistic" art? Is it that you think he couldn't paint like any other painter? If it's the last one, you're mistaken. He was a prodigy who was selling and exhibiting paintings at age 15. 

He was completely capable of painting like the old masters. But eventually chose not to. Why paint like everyone else? Where is the innovation in copying a style that reached its pinnacle 400 years earlier?

Here's a link to his early work: 

http://www.wikiart.org/en/pablo-picasso/by-period/early-years

He was 12 when he painted this.

file_a0a080f42e6f13b3a2df133f073095dd.jpAnd 14 when he did this one

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No, you don't get to produce the most valuable collection in art history by lacking talent. He had talent to excess. No one who has studied art history for five minutes thinks he lacked talent.


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moriador ( ) posted Mon, 12 January 2015 at 6:11 PM · edited Mon, 12 January 2015 at 6:19 PM

And how old do you think he was when he painted this? Let's see. It was completed in 1897 and Picasso was born in 1881. Wow. Not bad for a teenager, eh? You think any of us could do better after a lifetime? LOLOLOL.

People generally don't like Picasso because they haven't spent time looking at his paintings, really looking at them. His later works aren't immediately accessible eye-candy. They're for an audience that wants something other than what they can see hanging over the bed at a cheap motel, or something deeper than you can get with a camera. He could have painted a thousand paintings like this one, and he chose not to. Someone who could paint like this at age 16 chose not to. You think maybe it's because he knew more about art than you -- or any of us? Or do you still think you're a good enough artist and that you know enough about art to judge Picasso negatively?

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Tue, 13 January 2015 at 1:23 AM

 pumeco 3D is 99% technical.

the only part that's not technical and require any artist talent is sculpting in app's like zBrush

& zBrush has so many helpful tools any one can do it. 

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Tue, 13 January 2015 at 1:53 AM

Content Advisory! This message contains profanity

moriador say when it come to music head bangers probably wont like a lot of country ,those that like country probably wont like a lot of metal.

your free to like any Music or Art you want ,does not mean I half to like it also.

Picasso released his stuff to the public ,so he opened it up to ridicule.

If ya not tuff enough for ridicule ,then probably best to stay out of the public.

I have public gallery's ,there all open to ridicule also.so give them hell if ya want ,I'm not scared.

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moriador ( ) posted Wed, 14 January 2015 at 4:59 PM · edited Wed, 14 January 2015 at 5:06 PM

moriador say when it come to music head bangers probably wont like a lot of country ,those that like country probably wont like a lot of metal.

your free to like any Music or Art you want ,does not mean I half to like it also.

Picasso released his stuff to the public ,so he opened it up to ridicule.

If ya not tuff enough for ridicule ,then probably best to stay out of the public.

I have public gallery's ,there all open to ridicule also.so give them hell if ya want ,I'm not scared.

LOL. No one says you have to like everything. You can like and dislike whatever you want. But when you state that someone lacks talent -- you had better be able to back that up -- or you're the one who looks ridiculous. 

I'm sorry, but "I don't like X" does not mean the same thing as "X is no good". If you think it does, then you had better have a lot of authority in the field. And in this field, you don't.

If you don't like Picasso, that's fine. But if you've dismissed the entire modern art movement just because you've looked at a couple of paintings and they don't strike your fancy, then you're approaching art like someone who doesn't care about it. And if you don't care about it, then your own creations are never going to be any better. If not getting better is fine with you, fair enough. Many of us, however, believe that opening our eyes and our minds is good for our own attempts to create art -- and good for our souls, too.

We also enjoy going to museums a whole lot more because we don't spend the entire time saying, "This sucks, and that sucks. That that over there is terrible!" :D (When I overhear that at a museum, I'm embarrassed for the person because all they've managed to do is demonstrate to everyone else in the room that they don't know much about art and aren't willing to learn. )


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RorrKonn ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2015 at 2:01 AM

I think it would be fair to say are philosophy's are very different.

Jackson Pollock ,Pablo Picasso and so on they do what they do and over the centuries there's been all the movements and all.

but to me which I don't exspect you to agree.

They can't touch the talent of Royo or Boris which to me are the greatest Artist that ever lived.

I know I know how dare I say Royo and Boris are greater than Michelangelo ,Da Vinci ,Pablo ,Jackson etc etc

& I have no doubt the gallery would want to hang this barbarian for such blasphemy but I so don't care.

I have never cared what the gallery ,teachers or fine Artist have to say.

I will always improve my style of Art.

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heddheld ( ) posted Thu, 15 January 2015 at 4:15 AM

 wow this drifted a long way from .................

why not go the whole hog ? get oculus rift and leap ;-) just make sure you don't get caught smoothing vickies Tshirt    ;-) 


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