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Subject: New 3D Posing imput doll in development.


vilters ( ) posted Tue, 10 March 2015 at 6:01 PM · edited Wed, 18 December 2024 at 7:44 AM

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acrionx ( ) posted Tue, 10 March 2015 at 6:16 PM

Not so good for animations.  For those who want to create animations, motion capture is the way to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVvDw15-3e8

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 11 March 2015 at 6:41 AM · edited Wed, 11 March 2015 at 6:42 AM

It is a 3D Posing input doll but it's not new - we've known about it for four years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ny7xmCGu80


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 11 March 2015 at 6:45 AM · edited Wed, 11 March 2015 at 6:56 AM

I remember when we first saw this. Now that you've reminded me, I went looking to see if I could buy one.

At first it seemed they never succeeded in doing anything but a bunch of promotional news articles and videos. This store page implies they're in early stages and only offering a limited run

http://www.clip-studio.com/quma/en/store

But then I looked on the Japanese pages and while I can't read them, I see a software tool that uses the doll and it has news from this year. 

I'm trying to find evidence of anybody besides the company using it. Haven't so far.

You can buy it in Japan's Amazon web site.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B9-QUMARION/dp/B0095CZBDU


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pumeco ( ) posted Wed, 11 March 2015 at 7:05 AM

@Acrionx
Wow, that's the best I've seen, looks very impressive providing they haven't done any sly edits, would really love one of those for Poser!
Of course, even when it does become available, you can bet it's for the "Max" and "Maya" crowd and you'd need to sell body parts to pay for it :-(

Really nice though, very impressive.


pumeco ( ) posted Wed, 11 March 2015 at 7:07 AM · edited Wed, 11 March 2015 at 7:09 AM

PS:  Acrionx, you should contact SM and ask them to incorporate the technology into Poser!


vilters ( ) posted Wed, 11 March 2015 at 7:56 AM · edited Wed, 11 March 2015 at 8:03 AM

I filed an enhancement report to SM yesterday.

And yes they are available, even on the second hand market.

Only, tja, I heard about 750 dollar each.
Bummer.....

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Morkonan ( ) posted Wed, 11 March 2015 at 8:34 AM · edited Wed, 11 March 2015 at 8:35 AM

I don't see any practical use for this in Poser/DS sorts of environments. This tool doesn't provide any "new" capability, realistically speaking, that isn't already provided for in these applications. Further, more convenient, innovative, tech is coming out on the market or has more interesting applications. Taking something like the video/motion capabilities of next-gen consoles and creating applications for true "3D" virtual manipulation of objects within the preview pane, for example, would likely be better received and much more functional, as it doesn't have rigging limitations and such and other objects could be manipulated, besides just a particular sort of human rigging.

This figure would require rigging translations and limit sets for use in Poser/DS. In some other applications it might be useful, but I don't think it's useful for Poser/DS. It's "neat", but it doesn't break any new ground in terms of user capabilities.


acrionx ( ) posted Wed, 11 March 2015 at 2:31 PM

@pumeco:   Poser already allows you to import BVH files, which contains the animation data.  All you need is a setup that allows you to generate those files.  You can buy an Xbox Kinect motion sensor from Ebay for about $50 and there is a software call Brekel Pro Body that sells for $79 that uses the Kinect sensor to capture the motion.

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 11 March 2015 at 3:43 PM

Yeah, I kind of wonder if it will work outside of an anime environment...

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Teyon ( ) posted Wed, 11 March 2015 at 4:31 PM

This figure works directly with Manga Studio 5 and works really well. However, bringing it stateside has been...difficult, we'll say.


pumeco ( ) posted Thu, 12 March 2015 at 7:22 AM

@Acrionx
Thanks for that, sounds like a fair price if it's as good as the system used in that video.  I'm just about to have a play with that new DAZ thingummy though, so my mind has been sidetracked right now :-P

Will definitely check it out though, cheers.


wolf359 ( ) posted Thu, 12 March 2015 at 10:31 AM · edited Thu, 12 March 2015 at 10:40 AM

"Only, tja, I heard about 750 dollar each. 

Bummer.....

And utterly ridiculous for an input gimmick that does exactly what poser is designed for....

posing a poser figure!!

Seriously IMO, to buy this for poser would just as idiotic as buying a special over hyped $750 USD keyboard

to attach to my PC/Laptop and use it instead to input data into the various fields of a spreadsheet in microsoft Excel.  

 >>Rolls eyes<<.



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