hmmm....and what happens here, enlight me, remembering this is the forum you can ask questions, give tips, help each other, all related to Poser program?

Well, look on the bright side guys. I'm gone and you won't have to worry about me any more! :)

Have a nice life.

True, TT, but there's just some things that are better suited to a PM.

He started a thread that is bound to cause disruption and then wants it deleting after everyone has wasted time on it.
Not trying to be argumentative, but seriously, if he doesn't like disruptive threads such as these, he shouldn't start them.

Being an ex-moderator and all, he should know better.

hmmm....and what happens here, enlight me, remembering this is the forum you can ask questions, give tips, help each other, all related to Poser program?

Some just can't resist feeding the trolls.  :(

Well, look on the bright side guys. I'm gone and you won't have to worry about me any more! :)

Have a nice life.

Cheers mate. Good luck in whatever you decide to do. No hard feelings:)

Doug Wrote:
"I'm gone and you won't have to worry about me any more! :)"

You flatter yourself, Doug, can't speak for others but I never used to worry about you even when you were here!

I have a hard time understanding why people are so annoyed by this forum, to the point of leaving. It's true there are occasional lapses of civility, but this is true everywhere, in life I mean, and I am sure the technical aspects of this forum--the search function, etc--could be improved, and should be improved--but hey, this is still a great place to learn things, get answers to questions, and I personally am delighted by the personalities that creep out between our words, even if I have to wince sometimes at the flailing egos and the virtual tantrums.....  Keep it going, I say, and enjoy....

Wise words.

Nice.

Someone asks a question, & trolls nuke the place leading to a beloved member of the community jumpin' off, (if not more than one). Give yerselves a good firm pat on the back. With a knife.

slow clap fer the trolls

I have a hard time understanding why people are so annoyed by this forum, to the point of leaving. It's true there are occasional lapses of civility, but this is true everywhere, in life I mean, and I am sure the technical aspects of this forum--the search function, etc--could be improved, and should be improved--but hey, this is still a great place to learn things, get answers to questions, and I personally am delighted by the personalities that creep out between our words, even if I have to wince sometimes at the flailing egos and the virtual tantrums.....  Keep it going, I say, and enjoy....

The problem is right here "this is still a great place to learn things..."
For some of our "teachers" like Snarly and BB, the forum software now prevents them from teaching anything.

And, on top of that, what they have taught us in the past is lost.  Search doesn't work on the forum, Google search doesn't work on the forum, and things like BB's shader examples have been turned into useless attachments and renamed so that you can't even search for them.

Their concerns and comments have gone unaddressed and ignored.  They were basically shown the door because the things THEY do can no longer be done in this forum software.

There's no reason to stay around.

I have no idea what's going on... I don't even know if I care, since I don't know what all the drama is about.

This is a store. It has a "coffee bar" where customers chat about stuff related to what the store sells. I grant that, on occasion, someone walks into the store that might cause a scene or disruption. But, so what? It's just a "store." Who cares?

Sure, people might make friends with others, here, and that's great. But, if someone makes an enemy, the solution is very simple: Either make up and play nice with that person or avoid interacting with them. It's that simple. It's what healthy and level-headed adults do.

Anyway, enjoy the drama, all, if that's your thing. But, why not, instead, just brush it off, go to a real coffee shop or something, and sit down and relax? It's just "teh interwebz."

I have no idea what's going on... I don't even know if I care, since I don't know what all the drama is about.

This is a store. It has a "coffee bar" where customers chat about stuff related to what the store sells. I grant that, on occasion, someone walks into the store that might cause a scene or disruption. But, so what? It's just a "store." Who cares?

Sure, people might make friends with others, here, and that's great. But, if someone makes an enemy, the solution is very simple: Either make up and play nice with that person or avoid interacting with them. It's that simple. It's what healthy and level-headed adults do.

Anyway, enjoy the drama, all, if that's your thing. But, why not, instead, just brush it off, go to a real coffee shop or something, and sit down and relax? It's just "teh interwebz."

Well, I'm quite certain that's exactly what Renderosity see it as. The problem comes in when you purchase something from this "store" and it doesn't work, or you want to use it for something unintended.

People come in this "coffee shop" to learn how to do things purchased from this "store" and the new forum software makes teaching them how to do so impossible.

So, the "teachers" have no reason to stick around.

Did they specifically say their reason for leaving is forum software related?

Just so we're clear, I didn't say I'm leaving, and I'm still trying to help people.

But I'm doing so far less because it's so annoying.

1. I don't get ebots, so I spend an extraordinary amount of time manually reviewing posts trying to find where I left off. I'm so tired of doing it that I'm loath to come in at all.

2. Half the time I attempt to post an image (screen shot, render, etc.) it disappears or appears twice due to me adding it again. Often this is simply because I forgot to wait for the upload (there is no visual cue that something is happening).

3. Editing a post (which I frequently do because I see I left something out) is a recipe for losing it altogether or at least for the image to move into the middle of a paragraph or other fun stuff.

4. Quoting a post is a recipe for major annoyance. I can't tell you how many times I accidentally merged my response with the quote, resulting in my response looking like the quote. Correcting that is impossible and I have to start over. If I've typed a lot this is a serious difficulty.

5. It takes six seconds just to open the forum. There is no justification for that.

6. The new formatting on my tablet is nice, but on my 27" Windows monitor it's beyond irritating. I got around this by learning how to "corrupt" the CSS the site delivers to suit me. But this only works when I'm at my desktop at home. I find it insulting that, in the previous forum, the ability to explicitly set custom CSS existed per user, and now it was removed. But whatever, can you just recognize that my 7" tablet should not use the same CSS as my 27" monitor? For fuck's sake.

7. I waste a lot of time reading posts and realizing I'm reading somebody's signature. I have asked for a demarcation of some kind - none is provided. Numerous other formatting issues waste my time. I know it's a small thing, but death by a thousand cuts and reading this forum is just annoying as hell.

8. I can no longer attach Poser files (materials) so I despair of having to explain something and so I just - don't say anything even though I know the answer.

9. The search has sucked, although I very recently noticed it's getting better. Today, searching for my posts with the phrase "dynamic range" actually worked! Kudos.

10. I used to answer questions from my iPad - the text editor on iPad has problems. I don't even bother now.

etc.

I'm not leaving - I just want these fixed and until they are, I will tend to post less or sometimes not at all, when previously I might have posted quite a lot of info.

Here's my new forum highlight reel:

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 3:32PM Wed, 29 October 2014 · edited on 3:32PM Wed, 29 October 2014Online Now!

 I won't be participating again until they undo some of the mess they've done with formatting this forum.

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 3:00PM Fri, 31 October 2014 Online Now!

It used to be nearly instant. Now it takes six or more seconds to list the threads.

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 9:51PM Sun, 02 November 2014 Online Now!

Sorry - this forum has swallowed some of my posts and won't give any of my previous ones out from search.

I don't think I can afford to type here.

agginsbill ()  ()  posted at 9:54PM Sun, 02 November 2014 · edited on 9:56PM Sun, 02 November 2014Online Now!

I somewhat abandoned Runtimedna after they gratuitously messed up their forum a while back.

Perhaps we should go back to it.

http://forum.runtimedna.com/forumdisplay.php?92-The-Node-Cult

If you go over there, notice the sticky from 2010 where it is noted that the attachments are back. I was pissed off that they lost all my attachments when they "improved" the forum there. 

The note has remained to remind everybody that f'ing up a forum is bad for business.

 bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 7:24AM Wed, 19 November 2014 Online Now!

Stupid cheap incompetent forum software!!!!

I uploaded a picture - it showed in the post - but it disappeared.

Bah - I'm not participating here. It's bullshit.

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 8:15AM Wed, 03 December 2014 Online Now!

Hello! Sorry I get no ebots. This forum has been ruined and nobody seems to care.

I did make and demo some unreleased plugins for the Loom and other things. I still don't know when I'll finish and release them.

 bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 9:20AM Tue, 16 December 2014 Online Now!

Once again I'm seriously not getting any emails from this f'ing weak incompetent forum update. I just stumbled on all this new info because I thought I better look over the recent threads and see if their are updates I'm not aware of.

Seriously I don't want to be in this forum anymore.

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 9:36AM Tue, 24 February 2015 Online Now!

Rendo forum truly sucks. My subscription to this thread netted me no emails. I hope they don't pay the programmer - this problem has gone on for months and he seems unaware that he has work to do. I have clicked unsubscribe and then again subscribe hoping that fixes it.

We have a lot of snow - drifts over seven feet block my windows. But I'm not in a flood area so no worries about that.

When all this melts, though, there could be issues.

agginsbill ()  ()  posted at 3:31PM Thu, 26 February 2015 Online Now!

 Content Advisory! Language advisory.

I just confirmed that this crapola new forum software is recompressing my images - the quality of what you're seeing in my last post is WAY worse than what I produced and uploaded.

I'm about up-to-here with crap like this. I made a high-quality render that took several minutes, and the damn forum trashed it down to 24KB and it looks like shit.

I'm wasting my time here.

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 4:14PM Tue, 03 March 2015 Online Now!

I wrote a length explanation how I made an image. Then Renderosity simply erased it.

F*** you, Renderosity forum programmer. You suck.

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 12:23PM Wed, 18 March 2015 Online Now!

New forum software has removed the file name of the uploaded Poser shader. It used to be bbnylon2.mt5.txt - now it's file_454868.txt which is why nobody can find it by its name.

Thanks Rendo - brilliant.

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 12:24PM Wed, 18 March 2015 Online Now!

By the way - the new forum software does not permit uploading non-image Poser files anymore even if I try to fake it out with calling it something.jpg.

So - no more free shaders from me at Rendo.

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 3:03PM Fri, 31 October 2014 Online Now!

We used to be able to make replies with several quotes and an answer to each. That is no longer possible. You can quote an entire post and delete parts, but that's tedious when somebody has several things to reply to.

Either add a format button indicating [quoted] or bring back the markup.

bagginsbill ()  ()  posted at 3:47PM Fri, 31 October 2014 Online Now!

I have a picture in my signature, but if I try to do anything with it, the formatting goes bonkers.

You can't add a new one.

I could be wrong, but something tells me Baggins is certainly not amused :-D

From 29 October 2014 forward.  I would have to say that's the very definition of "unaddressed and ignored."

If you have an issue with the way the site is not working properly please write your concerns to admin@renderosity.com or to me tinak@renderosity.com.  I give you my promise that I will do my best to get any issues resolved.  I am sorry I just don't come into the Poser forum on a daily basis and it is best if they are sent by email or posted in the Community Center forum where they can be addressed properly.  I am making a list from this thread to do testing and see if we can get some of these issues resolved.