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Subject: Interesting way to kill the Poser/Daz pirates.
Copyright does expire. There are a great many assets that have ended up in the public domain that were created after 1923. So there is some chance that the above hypothetical is, in fact, public domain. If so, no piracy.
Here's an explanation for the US. Interesting , but it may give you a headache... ;) http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf
Additionally, Audio recordings prior to 1972 are covered under state law, which are perpetual copyrights in most cases.
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My current employer doesn't provide healthcare, which is pretty funny considering that I spend my days and nights using all manner of heavy construction machinery or on a scissor lift 20 feet in the air. It's all very mercenary, an independant contractor. It does afford me certain types of freedoms (and wow, the characters I rub elbows with), but alas, medical attention isn't one of them. Sometimes I miss being a union employee.
Kinda saving money to upgrade my digital art arsenal, so when I get hurt... I usually just throw some duct tape on it. Guess I have peculiar priorities.
You see, I have a stubborn resistance to playing the system... or even attempting to interact with the system. To me, the daily drudgery of life is a necessary evil, all I really care about is art and artists or whatever project I'm working on at the moment. Perhaps I'm a kook, or some other negative moniker, but it's set in stone.
Severely off topic here, don't really have the desire to upset the powers-that-be at 'rosity because I value this community.
Well tie the bloody thing to your heavy construction machinery then, whatever, just get it pulled otherwise it'll just make your life hell when it gets worse.
Option 1:
Get it pulled, no more pain and get a free visit from the Tooth Fairy.
Option 2:
Don't get it pulled, suffer pain now, suffer more pain next time, even more the time after that - and then get two teeth pulled instead.
Two years ago I was actually walking around with a small split on my shoes, used to get wet feet every time it rained. I should really have bought some new shoes at the time, but it went towards some parts I needed instead - so I know about feeding a passion. But your health comes before that, because without your heath, you won't be wanting to indulge in your passions.
That said, I think you should create a work of art while you're cursing your tooth, that could be interesting and pretty horrific looking :-D
Capture the pain :-)
Was actually really thinking of just getting a pair of needle nose pliers and pulling the damned thing myself, it's rather loose. Used to know a guy in SF, a painter, who did that. He had a little mint container with a few teeth saved in it... oh, did I mention that I know (have known) some peculiar fellows?
Looking forward to seeing the art, but be careful about pulling the tooth yourself because it's likely to break and leave the root inside, then you got problems.
I know this because my sister used to be petrified of the dentist, in the end it was worse for her, because they had to drill to get the root out.
Surely it doesn't cost that much to get a tooth pulled in the USA, aren't you supposed to be all super-advanced and stuff?
Anyway, it's getting OT again, just be aware of the risks in pulling it yourself, that's all I'm saying :-)
It's available on amazon in a hard cover edition. So someone still owns the copyright to it.
Not necessarily. Someone might own the copyright to that printed hard cover edition, but not to the content within in. Think about the fact that people still print and sell Shakespeare's work, even though it's freely available in a horde of places.
True. I thought about that after the fact. There doesn't seem to be a publisher listed on the page without digging deeper.
But the artist just died in 2002, which wasn't that long ago, so it's also possible that his surviving relatives hold the copyright, if there are any relatives. There are also two or 3 other artists listed along with.
I believe the same is true with classical music, all that famous stuff is apparently copyright free. I believe you can effectively create your own performances of those peices, and you would even own the copyright to your version, but not to the composition you had recreated.
In other words, you can't stop anyone else doing what you did yourself, and that's good, because you shouldn't be allowed to do so anyway.
it's not unlike the licence Blender is under I suppose (to an extent). You can take it, you can change it, you can even sell it at a profit, but you can't stop others making use of and doing with your contribution, what you have done with theirs. And this in itself brings up an interesting way to make money even from a free product, because if you look on Amazon you will find physical analogue books all about learning Blender.
They sell even at fairly high prices, and they get good reviews.
They sell because it's what people want, in effect, a high quality printed user guide.
Blender just grows and grows, so that means more and more opportunity to use a digital product (Blender) to sell a physical product (an analogue book), it's a perfect example, that is, another example of the analogue world being there for you when you've finally had enough of getting screwed-over by digital.
There are countless videos and tutorials for Blender on the web, likely more than for any other 3D program in existence. It still doesn't stop people paying generous amounts of money for a physical book to learn from. Because sitting down with a coffee and flicking through the pages of a printed book, is much nicer than surrendering to Adobe's PDF crap - so much so that people are prepared to pay for the priviledge.
They're selling their analogue books, releasing volume after volume after volume. And when you're done with it, you can sell it on, give it to a charity, do whatever the hell you like with it - and that's exactly how it should be.
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there weren't copyrights in Shakespeare's day ,if there where ya can bet somebody would still own them.
wait since the bible is copy righted have no idea how they got a bible copyrighted but Shakespeare's probably is also .
a layer would say this a lot better
music copy rights n all work differently .any one want's to sing ya song can with out ya permission as long as ya get a %.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07-3tQ42-n8
they didn't give marvin gaye credit or the family a %. so they got sued for 7 million from marvin gaye family.
of cores plagiarizing songs is nothing new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GWMvCXdsG4
primorge : I thought you where a full time Artist. why you are doing construction labor ,I have no idea .
but get the biggest baddest dudes ya work with and tell him ya have a tooth right here ya want rid of.
he'll get rig of that tooth for ya. who needs a dentist when we have Bubba.
pumeco: to quote a founding father of u.s.a.
"We gave the people a democracy but you half to fight to keep it."
u.s.a. is now a capitalism country.which is great for the rich individuals and companies.
that the rest of the world only here's from them.
they can take are houses,cars and shoot us dead in the street.
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Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance
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@RorrKonn
Spot on mate, but unfortunately, people of your (and my) country are the ones responsible for letting it get to that state, people don't rebel enough.
- If you sit on your asses tolerating crap like Apple, that's what you get, you get a world they're in control, and you aren't.
- If you you sit on your asses tolerating mechinisms such as Adobe is putting out, that's what you get, and sure enough it's spreading like a cancer.
People's future kids are going to look back one day and wonder what the fuck you were all playing at, letting these bastards take away what your ancestors lost thier lives fighting to protect. The world is so fucking sad, corrupt, and pathetinc right now, that I don't even want kids, I mean how sad is that?
I don't want kids because constantly trying to protect them from all this Apple, Adobe, Microsoft, Facebook and Google bullshit, would be quite a chore, and frankly, life's just too short, I shouldn't have to waste my life trying to protect others just because these bastards are allowed to run rampant. The solution is simple, don't use their products or services. That's all people need to do, simply avoid them, they're a business and like any busieness that doesn't earn money, they're dead.
Dead as a Dodo.
- If everyone cancelled their subscription, Adobe are dead.
- If everyone refused to buy the next wave of spyCrap, Apple would be dead too.
I can't remember exactly where I read this, it was a comment someone left on a YouTube video (about iPads or iPhones I think). Apparently a young couple and their little girl were in a doctors waiting room, waiting for their name to be called out. In the middle of the room was a table with magazines on it. And get this, the little girl went to the table and picked-up one of the magazines, and you know what she did?
She started swiping her fingers over it like it was an iPad, hoping the page would change for her, she knew how to use an iPad but didn't have the basic knowledge to simply turn the fucking page of a real book. The parent simply commented that she thought it was "So cute!".
I almost spewed bucket-loads at the very thought of it, I was even tempted to surrender my identity to Google and join YouTube just to rant at that pathetic excuse for a parent. Can you imagine, that poor girl, she can barely fucking talk and she's already prime candidate for the upcoming slave-race, and all thanks to her gullible parents. I don't think I've ever wanted to bash sense into someone as much as I did when I read that comment - you have no idea.
When that poor girl thinks "book", she thinks of that manipulative, corporate-controlled pile of shit instead of an actual book!
And I don't care what way people look at it, the fact that the girl picks-up a book and tries to "swipe" it like an iPad, is a danger sign, it's a sign of how far this bullshit really has gone. What would have been better is if she'd found a dead iPad on the table being used as a coaster, and tried to flip the pages like you do in a real book - know what I mean?
Pathetic, bumbass parents - they're an absolute disgrace to the human species, cause our species are normally renowned for our intelligence!
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I got it ,I got it,Give this editor to the pirates ,that will really drive them fraken ENASNI !!!
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Death :
lack of talent insures failure for sure.
but as passionate as you are about Art and as talented as you are. I thought ... my bad.
Still think it's a waste your not working full time on ya Art but I get Bill's half to be payed.
Pumeco :
RorrKonn's Shater I'm going to post to renderosity also but I half to run out the door.
I'm going to make a logo to incorporated in to the painting but for now just typed my name in it.
I know a person that hates gov's is a Anarchist.
What's a person called that hates tech as much as you ?
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The
Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance
RorrKonn,
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
Pumeco, you might like the old John Carpenter film 'They Live'... Don't think it's easy to find on VHS though.
@All
I'd just like to quote the guy in this video, who said:
"Call me crazy, but, I imagine a world where we smile when we have low batteries, cause that would mean we'd be one bar closer to humanity."
@Primorge
Yup, I'm angry, not really because maniplative technology exists, only that people support this "Digital Insanity" (see video).
@Shane
It sure feels good to be able to say I agree with you, bloody hell, makes a change though!
@RorrKonn
I need an account to see it, can't even remember if I still have one, so I'll see it when you upload it to Renderosity.
I did spot that other new one though, very nice!
@Primorge
I'll not pretend I don't know you're being sarcastic, but seeing as it's you, I'll humour you cause if it's a John Carpenter film, I'd probably like it anyway :-D
No worries about VHS, I have a beautiful machine, how else do you think I'll sell Special Edition copies of my Indies and beat the pirates?
You visited Unearthed Films lately?
They haven't just started doing Vinyl now (Metal) - but even VHS for their Indie movies - I do love those guys :-)
Anyway, I found something for you, too, you lucky person!
Let's just say I'm glad I fall in the 1-2% genius he talks about ... just sayin ;-)
Pumeco : it's the babe in a heart . I just put RorrKonn in the painting also.
ya can't get a 4000x4000 down to 512kb .512kb just looks bad even at 1000x1000 so I'm not posting it on Renderosty.
Renderosity needs to let us post better quality .jpgs.
Pumeco likes his VCR so he doesn't hate machines he hates tech.there's not a tech hater word ?
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The
Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance
RorrKonn,
Neo-Luddite; Digital technology is the product of machinery. read the contemporary usage/meaning of Luddite. Read the definition of machine.
Pumeco,
I wasn't being sarcastic. In fact, many critical theorists consider it a notable film of cultural critique. You should check it out, but if you do try to look beyond the surface.
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Pumeco my apology's I forgot I can post .jpg's on this forum.
they might take the time to erase my name but I'm going to make them work for it,if they do.
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The
Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance
Death imgur's 20MB that's cool and guess I alt to post any where I can 20mb or 512kb's just hope the pirates use the 20mb n leave my name.
for now censers aren't a problem for my Rated R at worst Art .as long as I tag it mature there good it's just poster Art really.
seems like I'm never painting I'm just always making brushes, brushes ,brushes.it's like a endless nightmare.
but once I have the first few editions of the comic .guess I alt to get the comic a website of it's own .
there be parts of the comic I doubt would pass most TOS. might be to different rated versions of the comic.
where figuring this out as we go.
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The
Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance
RorrKonn,
The Duck webcomics is a cool free webcomics hosting site... Don't know if you're familiar with. They host all genres of comics, including an 'adult' section so I won't link. I'm sure there are other such sites... I've also seen quite a few comic creator blog sites. I guess forum member estherau would be the person to really talk to on the subject, haven't seen her around here lately though.
@RorrKonn
Looks excellent (and congrats on finishing it), looks very puchy with the colours used and I like the overall piece - thumbs-up :-)
@Primorge
Silly, I meant sarcastic with the VHS comment, not the movie itself :-D
As for the guy in the video, I don't care what he says either, I posted it because I agree with what he says, and I agree with what he says, because he's right!
That's exactly how the world has gotten, all I see when I walk through the city are people with their heads down, rushing around, speaking to spyPhones :-D
They're so used to doing it now, that if an entire road of buildings they pass every day was knocked down and rebuilt, they wouldn't even notice. Hey, where did that building come from? They built it last year dude, what planet have you been on? Take your eyes off your spyPhone for a second, better still, throw it in the ocean where it's death is guaranteed. The corporations have these people exactly where they want them. Rushing around like little slaves, making money for them. You only have to watch the mannerisms of that fat guy who does the Apple keynotes, as he walks around the stage.
Like a prison warden talking to the inmates!
Awww, would you look at that, those poor slave-kids - I bet they can't even afford a new teddybear.
Such a shame no one has ever hacked Apple's keynotes and shown this stuff on their projector during one of their live brainwashing sessions.
Yeah ... that's right, I assume no one will support them after that (yeah right).
Anyway, I'm fed-up of discussing this crap, they don't effect me, I live in a much more enjoyable world, one I'm in control of, so I'll leave you with something I found quite amusing, in fact, I'm really glad I'm not old and incontenent, cause if I were, I'd have shat myself for sure for laughing at this one.
Found it on Goole Images, I think it's probably the best I've seen so far and man, my sides are killing me, I can almost hear their little feet galloping :-D
LMFAO, talk about art with a purpose :-D
"Anybody seen 'Europa Report'? Getting ready to watch it on Netflix. On my smart phone. Lol."
I saw it late last year
Alot of sci fi suspense but the "big reveal" at the end
left me underwhelmed.
It's available on amazon in a hard cover edition. So someone still owns the copyright to it.
Not necessarily. Someone might own the copyright to that printed hard cover edition, but not to the content within in. Think about the fact that people still print and sell Shakespeare's work, even though it's freely available in a horde of places.
Shakespeare's work is "out of Copyright" because it's three-hundred years old... Copyright has nothing do with someone selling a "hard cover edition," as long as the Copyright Holder has authorized them to create and sell such an edition. However, if the Copyright has expired, as is the case in the above example, than anyone can reproduce it. However, in the case above, the creator of the product owns the entire product, including what is between the covers, but can not claim Copyright on the actual contents.
Copyright is there to protect the rights of creators and to encourage further creation by making it possible for creators to profit from their work. However, it does not last forever. The reason that Copyright expires is that not only should the creator profit from their work, but that work should also be able to benefit everyone. Oh, and it's also extremely difficult to justify protection in perpetuity.. There are also "Acceptable Use" issues that Copyright must obey, in order for society to receive the most benefit from the work of its members. (Usually targeted towards intellectual discussion of copyrighted works, for educational purposes.)
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Just lost a lengthy post to this forum software, somehow. Guess that's just the way things are...
Read this!
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2701/2701-h/2701-h.htm