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Subject: Very Interesting interview quote from former Daz worker about Carrara

headwax. opened this issue on Jun 25, 2015 · 16 posts
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headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 25 June 2015 at 11:22 PM · edited Thu, 30 January 2025 at 10:05 PM

 a quote from Chris Creek

 

We also bought other software packages, such as Bryce, Carrara, and Hexagon. I kid you not that in every conversation we had before purchasing one of these software packages, someone would say "Do you want these to end up in the hands of Curious Labs?" So a portion of the benefit to the purchase was to not let Curious Labs (or whoever owned Poser at the time) get an advantage. Again, I get it. That's how business works; gain an advantage and try to keep it. But it also means keeping those packages developing, and putting money and resources into them to keep them viable. It was a big, big challenge to grow each one of those products.

 

http://hivewire3d.com/forum/forum/discussion-forums/it-s-about-the-art/contributing-artist-spotlight/162457-behind-the-curtain-christopher-creek-spotlight-interview/page5
 

Xerxes0002 ( ) posted Fri, 26 June 2015 at 12:24 AM

WOW I didn't know that history, making me rethink a few things for sure.

headwax. ( ) posted Fri, 26 June 2015 at 7:29 AM

Me too :) 

MarkBremmer ( ) posted Fri, 26 June 2015 at 9:25 AM

The pre-2012 was such a great bunch of folks. I had a chance work the DAZ booth at SIGGRAPH with them one year. Everybody was passionate about 3D. 

I still have the DAZ shirt I was issued to wear. But then, like the article stated, shaazaam, everybody was gone. 

I had the pleasure of meeting Charles Brissart and many of the dev team that had recently left Carrara development at the time. Super, super folks. 





booksbydavid ( ) posted Fri, 26 June 2015 at 11:14 AM

Very interesting article. Clears up a lot. Interested in reading the next installment. :)

Loved the tutu, too.

Steve K. ( ) posted Fri, 26 June 2015 at 3:51 PM

"  ... putting money and resources into them to keep them viable. It was a big, big challenge  ... "

Maybe I've become a little cynical about DAZ and Carrara, but I sense there is something implied in that statement.

headwax. ( ) posted Fri, 26 June 2015 at 4:31 PM

For me the part that says they bought it to keep it out if the other player's hands, sums it up.  

Alisa ( ) posted Fri, 26 June 2015 at 4:54 PM

Just for those who don't know, Chris and Dan Farr were the co-founders of DAZ

Cheers,
Alisa

RETIRED HiveWire 3D QAV Director

headwax. ( ) posted Sat, 27 June 2015 at 2:54 AM

Just for those who don't know, Chris and Dan Farr were the co-founders of DAZ

thanks Alisa 

Alisa ( ) posted Sat, 27 June 2015 at 8:48 AM

:)  You're very welcome!

Cheers,
Alisa

RETIRED HiveWire 3D QAV Director

DUDU.car ( ) posted Sat, 27 June 2015 at 1:04 PM

After all that I read throughout these last years on the forums, I had formed an opinion and this interview confirms what I thought.
I believe that on the contrary, DAZ would have to be forced to resell Carrara to people ready to make it evolve, I think of Smith Micro or also of Reallusion: don't buy anything more at DAZ !
The DAZ staff are only merchants, not technicians.

Happy to know this site HiveWire3D...

Grimhilda ( ) posted Sat, 27 June 2015 at 5:08 PM · edited Mon, 29 June 2015 at 8:45 AM

 "...to this day DAZ is a venture capital controlled and run company."

Comment removed at authors request

  My opinion only, of course.

Grimhilda ( ) posted Sat, 27 June 2015 at 7:25 PM

Since I'm unable to find a way to edit the post I made above, I wish to make it clear that my somewhat cynical remark was not meant to be taken literally and was not meant to cause offence to any particular individual or group of individuals.

I'm sure that venture capitalists take plenty of time to research products they consider investing in!  

 

headwax. ( ) posted Mon, 29 June 2015 at 9:06 AM

No offence ! I see you asking about the new poser hair and cloth sim re carrara - nice work ! 

Grimhilda ( ) posted Mon, 29 June 2015 at 2:57 PM

Hi Headwax,

Thanks for the comment.  My thread under my other stupid name over at Carrara was deleted because it was deemed to link to a commercial product - although when I started the thread there was no indication of that.  I had replied in appreciation of your and others' comments but maybe it was pulled before you got to see that.

It's straying from the topic of your thread here but I think it may be that the existing workflow using the Dyn-To_Morphs  script may work with the new Poser tool.  The new tool seems to export chosen scene elements to run a physics calculation and then sends the results back into the cloth room.  Maybe the existing script for loading the results to Carrara will work as usual from there.

But the developer seems skilled enough and willing to go further - which I would be delighted to see.  Imagine the difference such a plugin would make!

On another topic, my DAZ purchases are too few to help with the survey you've been running - only 28 items over 3 pages.  With the new physics tool for Poser, I'd buy much more conforming clothing readily. 

 

Grimhilda ( ) posted Mon, 29 June 2015 at 3:03 PM

 Mark,

Thanks for removing my comment as requested.  If I can't be a nice guy in real life I can pretend to be on the Internet!

 

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