scream? I meant sclera, kindle had fun with autocorrect.
Boni

AsteroidLady: (autocorrect messed up your name as well, sorry) I'm on for a bit now. I have a couple questions. Is this image AFTER a render? because I found a similar appearance pre-render but after the render it was more like this: Hmmm. Can't seem to attach the image ... updates, are fun. ... let me describe. I'm getting the same imagery in preview but the edge of the eyelid and the lacrimal rendered properly, but there is still a line in the area of the iris/sclera. I'll continue to look into that.
Boni

Ok here is what I have ... I took out the extra nodes in the "eyewhite" and the "cornea" and the "iris" although there is a slight ring, I think that is unavoidable, but not as bad as it was. The eyesocket seems to render fine. Let me know if you want a screen-shot of the settings.

ROFLMAO, LaurieA! I love Earl (aka Apollo Max) in his grass skirt! He's got a great sense of humor there. Wonderful render! By the way, here's my latest render of him, rendered in Reality 4 with IBL lighting......

Wearing a refit of Aery Soul's Ony Braided hair (from the RuntimeDNA Store)

Boni, it turned out the texture was missing from the soft tissue, that for whatever reason it wasn't automatically applied. (I didn't even know what part of the body "soft tissue" referred to, so I'd been ignoring it. I figured it out by turning the diffuse color to green.) I'm not familiar enough with the material room to know which nodes are "extra"; I deleted everything except the basic diffuse and they turned black. :( I usually render in Reality, it's easier and it looks better, but I'm having the same problems there, so I'm not sure it's a material room issue, but here are the node settings for the sclera.

Based on a problem (solved by bagginsbill) with the "ring" issue with V4 eyes this seems similar. The edge of the map for the sclera meets the edge of the map for the iris. A mask needs to be applied that would give a soft gradient transparency between the two that overlaps. That would alleviate the issue. I don't have the time at the moment. But if someone is ambitious it would take care of the situation. Heck, I might work on it next week myself.

Boni

You mean something like this?

Or, how should it be different? And what should be done with it?

Earl & Clyde are fantastic. My kind of people.

Yes .... Asteriodlady, like that ... just not sure where to apply it. Most likely to the sclera most likely. I might try this this afternoon if I get the chance. Thank you very much.
Boni

Eye Test 3

AsteroidLady: This was the best ... and what I did was take your mask resize it to fit the middle of the eye white, invert it, then save it as a mask and added a transparency node in the mat room and applied it to the eyewhite.

Here in better lighting ... you see a slight grey ring, but it looks more natural that the original.

Hmmm, tried to post but it went haywire.
Anyway...I have a texture set on sharecg, Dan for Apollo, link...
http://www.sharecg.com/v/29006/poser/BE4_Dan-for-Apollo-Maximus

Had to edit the link, gave the wrong one.

And an image of my new project (actually I've been working on it since 2009, a year after my son died) and hope to someday get it the way I want.
It is a morph of my late son so it may never get on to a market, still undecided.

That is wonderful!!! Thank you for sharig that! Woo Hoo, more for Apollo!!!

Boni

BluEcho, what a touching and eloquent tribute to your son! This is a beautiful texture set for Apollo. Thank you for sharing this. I am going to download it in a few and play around with it!

Boni, it would help if I could see your settings, the material room still confuses me.

Here you go. These are the settings. You can see how I altered the mask and applied it to the eyewhite. :)

Boni

I can send you the mask ... wait ... I'll post it here. Since it was different, I wanted to make it easier for you. :)

Eyes are looking better, thanks! The image doesn't want to attach at the moment. I found another thing that helped with the eyes, but I'll wait til I can attach the image.

I look forward to it.

Boni

Is anybody else having trouble uploading images to the forum? I'm doing the exact same thing I've always done, but it doesn't work, so I'm wondering whether the forum is having issues or it's just my computer or what. I wanted to attach an image to show that this works, but you'll just have to take my word for it. It was surprisingly very helpful.

I recently did a TDMT match between Apollo and M4. I matched the head and the eyes. Then I transferred all the morphs from M4's eyes. (It's how I made the cat eyes in the TDMT thread.) The morph that is relevant here is called "EyeIrisAlign." It's from the M4 base, so no morph package is required. This actually moves the line around the iris. On Apollo I have it set at -.42. I can't legally share the morph, but I can share the TDMT file that I used to transfer it, when I figure out what I should do with it. You would need to have M4 for it to work.

There are some intermittent problems as other issues are being resolved. Please be patient, it will be taken care of. Keep trying.

Boni

The morph I was talking about above. The first picture is at a positive value, the second at 0, the 3rd at a negative value (the setting that helps.) It works best in combination with the transparency map, since neither of them makes it go away completely.

Here are a few renders from years ago of Apollo/Cole using my MoonToons morph poses...

Here are a few more...

These are amazing!!! Glad to see this thread bumped back up!!!

Here's one more render of one of my unreleased Apollo/Cole morphs. This is a stylized/toonish/caricature image of Matthew Rush aka Greg Grove.

What are the chances....I just happened to take a look at rendo for the first time in ages and who should I find being reminisced but Apollo. Yeah, loved this figure so much. Best fun morphing I ever had in Poser. These were a few custom ones I made - some variants of simpler ones made just with dials and then morph-brushed up a bit. Cred to Anton.

Always a fan of Apollo, Anton, and Daniel (Carodan)!

Hey Lee. How you doing? Nice to see all those renders again and be reminded of the sheer versatility of that figure. Fun times :)

Hi Daniel! I'm doing great. Still tinker in Poser most days just to keep my creative side fed. lol

Yep, I'm enjoying seeing the interest in Apollo and these awesome renders that everyone is doing. It really does bring back some awesome times. :)

Good to hear you still tinker. I've only fired up Poser a couple of times this year - had a chaotic house move - so I'm a bit out of practice. New version of Poser in the works too I hear!

For anyone not too familiar with Apollo, I highly recommend working his face with the morph-brush. I always found his face above all other figures responded to that particular tool. At one time there was also a face-room add on for him (can't remember whether that made it onto the free files list or even still works). Anton always said he morphed 'like butter'.

I hope all is sorted out with your house move, Daniel. I'm looking forward to seeing what the new version of Poser will be like.

Anton did a spectacular job with Apollo and his add-ons. A well made and rigged mesh really makes for a superior figure. You can really tell Anton put a lot of effort into getting Apollo just right. Beth West from Capsces did an awesome job on creating the Cole morphs which I used extensively for my Apollo work. Always been a fan of caricature/toony looking figures.

I'd love to see this renewed interest in Apollo produce some new figures, morphs, and add-ons for him. That'd be so cool!

Yeah that would be kinda cool, though things do seem to have moved on somewhat figure-wise (not all for the better). I had a bunch of custom morphs for Apollo I'd made some progress on (refinements of faces, some body morphs) but who knows where those files are now.

I hear you -- I've been looking around for my original MoonToons distribution files (I think I've located them) to share again. I've got many versions of stuff I was working on for Apollo. Mostly for my own use -- like the Matthew Rush morph settings. It's so much fun to load Apollo and just sort of play with the dials again to see what I can come up with.

Here are a bunch more pics from days of 'yore....

Those are all incredibly cool, Daniel. Your skills and creativity are amazing. :)

ditto Lee - remember that promo animated gif Anton did of Apollo renders? Say, didn't you have a cool render you'd done of Apollo in a wooly hat?

I do remember that promo gif. I was so proud to be included in it.

Is this the render you're talking about? It seems like that hat was originally for David and I had to apply some displacement to get the texture depth I was looking for.

That's the fella! Always loved the level of realism & detail you got in that one. Bearing in mind that was pre SSS skin, Gi etc as wall.

Remembering a brief phase of celeb morphs (kinda).

last couple of pics then I must shoot.

Thanks! I worked hard to try to get a certain style for my renders. It's much easier nowadays to do it and with far better results. Still, being an engineer, I loved playing with the settings, lights, textures, etc. until I got the best I could out of a render. lol

Daniel, those look like a photograph for Nosferatu. So very well done!!

heh, I had the hair & neck bolts for 'frankie' all worked out at one time too - cant find any renders now. There was a Lugosi Dracula too that never saw the light of day.

Ah, fun fun fun. See ya all at the next Apollo re-union.

LeeMoon posted at 7:36PM Sun, 11 October 2015 - #4233238

Here's one more render of one of my unreleased Apollo/Cole morphs. This is a stylized/toonish/caricature image of Matthew Rush aka Greg Grove.

That's a pretty cool render of Greg. I'll have to point him this way if I see him next month. We used to hang out when he lived in Florida (I'll spare you the funny story of how we met ;) )

Oh these are wonderful!! I was hoping you two would join our discussion. I believe Apollo is just as much a quality figure today as he was back in 2007 when he was last updated. We want to show Anton there's still interest. Let's see more and are there some more of those wonderful morphs still available, carodan?

Male_M3dia posted at 9:54PM Sun, 11 October 2015 - #4233272

LeeMoon posted at 7:36PM Sun, 11 October 2015 - #4233238

Here's one more render of one of my unreleased Apollo/Cole morphs. This is a stylized/toonish/caricature image of Matthew Rush aka Greg Grove.

That's a pretty cool render of Greg. I'll have to point him this way if I see him next month. We used to hang out when he lived in Florida (I'll spare you the funny story of how we met ;) )

I based that morph on photos of Matthew/Greg when he was younger. I'm really happy with how it turned out. Please do share the render with him. :)

Boni posted at 9:58PM Sun, 11 October 2015 - #4233286

Oh these are wonderful!! I was hoping you two would join our discussion. I believe Apollo is just as much a quality figure today as he was back in 2007 when he was last updated. We want to show Anton there's still interest. Let's see more and are there some more of those wonderful morphs still available, carodan?

Apollo remains one of my very favorite Poser figures. So easy to work with. Daniel created the most awesome characters for Apollo. It's great talking to him here. I hope Apollo gains some new fans and sparks renewed interest in him. :)

@LeeMoon and carodan: Nice to see you guys back! I've always loved your Apollo morphs and had enjoyed playing with Apollo so much. I don't think I had ever been so blown away by a figure before and it was great to see such excellent work being done with him. Now, if only Anton would appear in this thread . . . ;-)

LeeMoon posted at 4:24AM Mon, 12 October 2015 - #4233293

Apollo remains one of my very favorite Poser figures. So easy to work with. Daniel created the most awesome characters for Apollo. It's great talking to him here. I hope Apollo gains some new fans and sparks renewed interest in him. :)

Well, I'm hoping to nudge renewed interest at the source of this wonderful model. ;) It is a goal of mine with this thread. Daniel? Could you make more morphs available? And Lee, your supplemental morphs? This would help with the "Apollo Renewal".

Boni posted at 7:39AM Mon, 12 October 2015 - #4233320

LeeMoon posted at 4:24AM Mon, 12 October 2015 - #4233293

Apollo remains one of my very favorite Poser figures. So easy to work with. Daniel created the most awesome characters for Apollo. It's great talking to him here. I hope Apollo gains some new fans and sparks renewed interest in him. :)

Well, I'm hoping to nudge renewed interest at the source of this wonderful model. ;) It is a goal of mine with this thread. Daniel? Could you make more morphs available? And Lee, your supplemental morphs? This would help with the "Apollo Renewal".

I will be happy to host any or all of this at my orphans site: orphans.basicwiz.com