What was your banned username?

This one. They didn't ban my account, but they banned my IP..

DreaminGirl, I see nothing that indicates you've been banned in any way. If you were, it wouldn't be your ip, you wouldn't be able to log in at all or post under your username. What makes you think you've been banned?

@Kendra

It was stated right here: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2900008

JVRenderer posted at 8:31PM Fri, 04 March 2016 - #4256229

For those members who's been here since the beginning, myself included. The more Rendo tries to change the more it remains the same. This is 'dufflebagging' 'shoot self in the foot' 'The September Sweep!" All over again. (Well, September came early this year) I may be banned for sure this time. Seriously, I don't really care anymore.

Lol. Totally forgot about "dufflebag". :) Seriously though, I really hope everyone can just hold on and wait it out. Try not to let tempers get the best of us and not take things personal that aren't meant that way. We are still a community and a pretty good one at that. Let's see what happens, ok? Don't make me start posting cat pics. ;)

DreaminGirl posted at 8:42PM Fri, 04 March 2016 - #4259346

@Kendra

It was stated right here: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2900008

Huh. Ok, I still don't see how any type of ban would still allow a member to post under their member name though. Was it a vendor issue? I'll look in to it.

No idea. I can only guess it was because I commented on the community manager's infamous blog post, since this seems to have been decided by said community manager..

I just came back on Xmas Day, and I regret it already. It just makes no sense. the forums are dead as a post (get it?) except for the complaints admins can't handle seeing (you paying attention Hope?), And the galleries are constantly spammed by a flood of images by the same 2 artists who drown out all the poser porn. Why did I come back here?

Kendra posted at 11:46AM Mon, 07 March 2016 - #4259348

JVRenderer posted at 8:31PM Fri, 04 March 2016 - #4256229

For those members who's been here since the beginning, myself included. The more Rendo tries to change the more it remains the same. This is 'dufflebagging' 'shoot self in the foot' 'The September Sweep!" All over again. (Well, September came early this year) I may be banned for sure this time. Seriously, I don't really care anymore.

Lol. Totally forgot about "dufflebag". :) Seriously though, I really hope everyone can just hold on and wait it out. Try not to let tempers get the best of us and not take things personal that aren't meant that way. We are still a community and a pretty good one at that. Let's see what happens, ok? Don't make me start posting cat pics. ;)

Kendra, you violated the TOS by posting an offsite link in your signature. Why are you allowed to do this, and we get banned for it? I kinda think people are getting sick of waiting it out. I've only been back for 2 months and a bit and I hate it here already. If not for the handful of friends I have here I'd have turned around at the door.

Madbat posted at 9:03AM Tue, 08 March 2016 - #4259722

Kendra, you violated the TOS by posting an offsite link in your signature. Why are you allowed to do this, and we get banned for it? I kinda think people are getting sick of waiting it out. I've only been back for 2 months and a bit and I hate it here already. If not for the handful of friends I have here I'd have turned around at the door.

• Additionally, offsite linking to other marketplaces or freestuff sites are not allowed within the forum, gallery, or forum signatures. For example: Links to competing stores like Daz3d.com, RuntimeDNA.com, etc are not allowed. However, links to non-competing stores like Etsy.com or Ebay.com are acceptable.

• Links to known, safe, established websites are not being banned. If you want to link to a tutorial on YouTube or Lynda.com, info on Smith Micro or DAZ, and links. What Renderosity don't want is your link to land at a competing marketplace however as you can see Daz and SM mentioned there are info sheets and tutorials etc that are useful and there is no issue linking to those.

It also appears they are not keen on the personal websites, blogs and sharing freebie/files via dropbox and google drive etc. As for signatures there would be nothing stopping you from putting for example - Madbat01/ShareCg etc as long as it is not a link.

Madbat posted at 6:46PM Tue, 08 March 2016 - #4259722

Kendra, you violated the TOS by posting an offsite link in your signature. Why are you allowed to do this, and we get banned for it? I kinda think people are getting sick of waiting it out. I've only been back for 2 months and a bit and I hate it here already. If not for the handful of friends I have here I'd have turned around at the door.

It's not a violation as Johnny points out and it was something I checked on when I learned of the new rule. That said, it was a valid question. As for waiting it out, anyone who has been here for more than a decade has seen these things come and go. I made my own concerns regarding it known and at this point all we can do is voice our concerns within the confines of the TOS and wait and see what happens. Until then it is the rule and we all have to abide by it whether we agree with it or not.

I'm really just posting here because I've run afoul of the TOS and I want to see what's currently in my signature.

Interesting discussion.

What's happened to this place? From the horrible customer support to the authoritarian censorship, it's really gotten out of hand.

Vorlath posted at 9:02AM Mon, 14 March 2016 - #4260923

What's happened to this place? From the horrible customer support to the authoritarian censorship, it's really gotten out of hand.

Good question, well presented but those with the answers seem reluctant to make the reasons public.

Are we allowed to post our Facebook page or Twiiter or Instagram accounts? Those are actually advertising the art we do with Rendo products and not competing with them... I guess I'll find out LOL...

Hi @Alicia- Yeah, it's fine to post your Facebook pages - just be sure that it's definitely not competing. Thank you.

hopeandlove posted at 2:38PM Fri, 25 March 2016 - #4262444

Hi @Alicia- Yeah, it's fine to post your Facebook pages - just be sure that it's definitely not competing. Thank you.

Reading this I am glad I deleted my Gallery here at RMP. I rather put my work in places where competition is seen as a good thing. Those places are also doing very well.

Why is Rendo closing so many doors? This 3d computer art community is small enough as it is, so this move toward becoming an isolated store/forum, cutting off help and freebies from other sites, etc is very scary to me. Isolation does not promote more traffic, on the contrary, it sends many people looking elsewhere.

I am genuinely baffled.

Well, I did the unthinkable.... I went back to Daz, forced myself to start learning DS, and bought a whole bunch of product from them because the atmosphere here lately is not conducive to spending money. It's obviously nothing against the artists, they are mostly at DAZ now too, some are gone from here forever... I have no idea why the admin are going out of their way to destroy a once lively and creative artist site and actively chase away both customers and vendors, but it is what they have chosen to do... Which is sad. So I once compared DAZ to a boyfriend that I still loved but had nothing in common with anymore (and that got deleted from the forums but strangely remained on their Facebook review section.) But I've forgiven DAZ, at least for now, they are being very helpful in the newbie DS user forum, and I only say this to make a point that the admins are actively chasing away their customers and I have no idea why, what benefit is it gaining them? They don't want us to link to competitors, so instead we shop there. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going-- to other sites.... And now I find it sad spending less time here, again, feels like an old friend that I no longer have anything in common with. A friend who is spiraling out of control, chasing all her old friends away. And soon Rendo will be in therapy wondering, where did all my friends go??? Why is this an empty site? So sad. But the admins refuse to listen to the customers or vendors and I guess that worked in Daz's favor, four years later, finally... So it will be interesting to see if Rendo dies on the vine or manages to flourish. I truly hope it can rise above all this to get back to its former glory.... But for now, DAZ just got a ridiculous amount of money from me that I can't afford and really, it's just because this site is starting to leave a bad taste in my mouth, I really wish they would hire long time customers or vendors as admins, that would solve everything...

FWIW, it's happening at Daz too. Same symptoms, same results. In fact, that's why I've stopped in here - hoping to find a place like the 'old daz' or the 'old rendo'. Apparently it's not to be.

Maybe I'll just go render something instead.

When you lose the likes of the great mr snarlygribble, you're really not paying attention.

be well all,

ms

And in related news, the HiveWire forum is flourishing..

DreaminGirl posted at 10:23AM Sun, 17 April 2016 - #4265776

And in related news, the HiveWire forum is flourishing..

Here is one of the definitions of flourish, seems quite ironic to me. ;)

flourish verb (WAVE)

[T] to ​move something in ​your ​hand in ​order to make ​people ​look at it:

Razor42 posted at 4:22AM Sun, 17 April 2016 - #4265892

DreaminGirl posted at 10:23AM Sun, 17 April 2016 - #4265776

And in related news, the HiveWire forum is flourishing..

Here is one of the definitions of flourish, seems quite ironic to me. ;)

flourish verb (WAVE)

[T] to ​move something in ​your ​hand in ​order to make ​people ​look at it:

flour·ish (flûr′ĭsh, flŭr′-) v. flour·ished, flour·ish·ing, flour·ish·es v.intr.

1. To grow well or luxuriantly; thrive: The crops flourished in the rich soil.
2. To do or fare well; prosper: "No village on the railroad failed to flourish" (John Kenneth Galbraith).
3. To be in a period of highest productivity, excellence, or influence: a poet who flourished in the tenth century.

Why am I not surprised....

And even more ironically, I used that word on purpose because I knew someone would try to be pedantic about it

Whatever your definition of flourish the Hivewire3D forum is definitely a lot bigger and busier than it was. Before their forum was hijacked there were only a small number of threads that were active. With the new launch, and some excellent software the forums are so active I do not have the time to follow all of the threads I would like to. The majority are far more active than the Poser forum here but then these days that is not saying a lot.

Of real interest, for me at least, is the WIP for the new figures that are due to be added to the Hivewire family and it really gives the community (perhaps I should define that here as well) the chance to have so real input.

When RDNA folded some of the forum users made their way to Hivewire and other forums, not many seem to have made their way here. As is stands at the moment I see far more happening at Hivewire I see more success than Rendo, much as I like Hivewire though, it would be nice to see Rendo at least try to compete.

Seems like software wars are maybe a little old hat these days? We seem to be moving on to 'My community website is better that your community website'. Which is already becoming a little tiring, at least to myself.

Hivewire3D is "flourishing" that's great news. If you enjoy it there, that's even better news. I'm not really sure what the relevance in bringing it up here in the Renderosity community forum is though? Seems a little like Astroturfing. Which is what led to my sarcastic remark.

It makes me wonder is this the point someone is meant to bring up how well Daz3D are doing at the moment? ... So we can then descend into a 3 page argument about which site is "better" has more actual "traffic" or has more of a "Community" feel to it. Yawn, lets hope not.

It's funny I visit so many 3D focused and art websites and all of them have their little quirks, assets and points of difference I have never felt the need to hold one of them up as the best above all. Actually with a lot its the actual competition that makes them dynamic. Maybe one day there will be a more widespread community here in this field, that will see the benefits in building all aspects of this community up, no matter the platform or domain name. Appreciating the value in all of them, the collective value each brings to the other and most of all to the artists in this field. This ideal was part of what made Renderosity a place really worth visiting, a diverse community of digital, traditional and mixed medium artists. A gallery that featured watercolors next to photographs next to renders.

It wasn't the sameness that made it interesting it was the differences that really made it sing.

Razor42 posted at 9:08AM Mon, 18 April 2016 - #4266011

Seems like software wars are maybe a little old hat these days? We seem to be moving on to 'My community website is better that your community website'. Which is already becoming a little tiring, at least to myself.

Hivewire3D is "flourishing" that's great news. If you enjoy it there, that's even better news. I'm not really sure what the relevance in bringing it up here in the Renderosity community forum is though? Seems a little like Astroturfing. Which is what led to my sarcastic remark.

It makes me wonder is this the point someone is meant to bring up how well Daz3D are doing at the moment? ... So we can then descend into a 3 page argument about which site is "better" has more actual "traffic" or has more of a "Community" feel to it. Yawn, lets hope not.

It's funny I visit so many 3D focused and art websites and all of them have their little quirks, assets and points of difference I have never felt the need to hold one of them up as the best above all. Actually with a lot its the actual competition that makes them dynamic. Maybe one day there will be a more widespread community here in this field, that will see the benefits in building all aspects of this community up, no matter the platform or domain name. Appreciating the value in all of them, the collective value each brings to the other and most of all to the artists in this field. This ideal was part of what made Renderosity a place really worth visiting, a diverse community of digital, traditional and mixed medium artists. A gallery that featured watercolors next to photographs next to renders.

It wasn't the sameness that made it interesting it was the differences that really made it sing.

I really don't think is is a question in saying 'my community web site is better than yours' the claim was that Hivewire3d was flourishing. Now I can see how that may been seen in some light as some sort of bragging but there is another way of looking at it. Rendo used to have a thriving, helpful and interesting Poser forum here, now it doesn't, even more it was a community but that too has gone. When that happened I went looking for something to replace it and found RDNA, not only that I found some of the same forum people that had gone missing from here were there. A few years on and the RDNA community has been torn asunder and people are on the move again.

I was never that keen on the software wars and was annoyed when mis-information was used, irrespective of the software. I have yet to see software wars break out at Hivewire3D and I do regard it as a community, that said I mentioned it as a possible replacement for what has been lost here. I would be the first to acknowledge that it may be too sweetness and light for some, just as cgbytes might be the complete opposite for others. At the end of the day I really don't care who goes where as long as I know where to find those who may be able to assist when the hobby I love throws up the odd little problem.

Would I like the old Rendo Poser forum back, without a doubt, even more I wish it had never slipped from the pinnacle it once had, but it is dead a gone and not really somewhere I would suggest any newcomer should visit.

Well said Hornet and for the most part I do agree,

I'm just not sure if many have considered the reason that Hivewire3D is actually so peaceful, is that it is relatively light in traffic (Statistically much lighter than its major competitors). It's currently more like a small circle of friends than a city full of diverse individuals with varying motives and lifestyles, though there is nothing wrong with that and may in fact be a part of its charm for many. The challenge will be maintaining that homely feel and continuing to grow into a site with a larger market presences with higher traffic flow, if that is indeed what Chris, the HIvewire3D team and its members do want for the sites future. Personally I much prefer diversity even if their is an element of disagreement from time to time.

It wasn't the statement so much that annoyed me, it just felt a little like someone dropping by the RuntimeDNA forums to make a statement to any that are still there that "Daz 3D are doing great!"

And you may not be able to see it but there is definitely a stripe of Anti Daz 3D sentiment through the Hivewire3D Community. Just have a browse through the 60 pages of the "Runtime DNA merges with DAZ 3D" thread. Page 1 quote "Daz are greedy SOB's and nothing will ever change that". There is no argument when most share the same viewpoint... Let's face it, the management of the site are not exactly putting forward an atmosphere of mutual respect between the two entities, due to their past histories.

That said I do wish nothing but success for Hivewire3D and its growing community, as I do for the other community sites in this sphere. Such as this one which is far from dead & buried as many seem to feel the need to portray. And also the best of luck to SM with the launch of the new Smith Micro Official Poser forums too.

Razor42 posted at 10:23AM Tue, 19 April 2016 - #4266146

Well said Hornet and for the most part I do agree,

I'm just not sure if many have considered the reason that Hivewire3D is actually so peaceful, is that it is relatively light in traffic (Statistically much lighter than its major competitors). It's currently more like a small circle of friends than a city full of diverse individuals with varying motives and lifestyles, though there is nothing wrong with that and may in fact be a part of its charm for many. The challenge will be maintaining that homely feel and continuing to grow into a site with a larger market presences with higher traffic flow, if that is indeed what Chris, the HIvewire3D team and its members do want for the sites future. Personally I much prefer diversity even if their is an element of disagreement from time to time.

It wasn't the statement so much that annoyed me, it just felt a little like someone dropping by the RuntimeDNA forums to make a statement to any that are still there that "Daz 3D are doing great!"

And you may not be able to see it but there is definitely a stripe of Anti Daz 3D sentiment through the Hivewire3D Community. Just have a browse through the 60 pages of the "Runtime DNA merges with DAZ 3D" thread. Page 1 quote "Daz are greedy SOB's and nothing will ever change that". There is no argument when most share the same viewpoint... Let's face it, the management of the site are not exactly putting forward an atmosphere of mutual respect between the two entities, due to their past histories.

That said I do wish nothing but success for Hivewire3D and its growing community, as I do for the other community sites in this sphere. Such as this one which is far from dead & buried as many seem to feel the need to portray. And also the best of luck to SM with the launch of the new Smith Micro Official Poser forums too.

When I said I had not seen software wars at Hivewire I must admit I had not thought of company wars which is slightly different. As you point out there was some anti Daz sentiment there but the demise of RDNA generated quite a bit in most related forums. It is clear that some people do have some resentment to Daz, rightly or wrongly, and it is hard to argue against that. I do not have a lot of love for Rendo at the moment not only because of the changes but also from having my credit card defrauded, more than once, due to a slip in their order process. OK I don't try and trash the company and I would like to see it get back to where it was but it does highlight there can be personal issues.

I don't have a great deal of time with the 'Daz is going to take over the world' conspiracies any more that I like the 'I know for a fact that Poser will be dead in two years' or 'I know exactly what happened between company A and company B fours years ago' mainly for the fact none of them do anything but upset people.

As to Hivewire, yes they are trying to keep a family feel and that will get more difficult as it gets bigger. I think Dawn is much improved but accept it is not at V4 levels or Genesis and it is Dawn and the rest of the Hivewire figures that will have the most impact on numbers drawn to the site. In many ways it is early days for Hivewire and the hacking of their forums (that wiped them out for a few months) must have put the team back a bit. Who knows where it will go but at the moment I like it and I guess with everything else going on I am happy just to enjoy it while it is as it is.