(This is the third time I've tried to start this thread on two different browsers. Nothing I do allows me to attach files, either by selecting or dragging and dropping.) Here goes, one more time, with the text I savedfrom my previous attempt::

I've been using a sansui 19 inch flat screen tv as a monitor and it has worked fine.... until I started using it on poser. In the attached before and after images, you can see the creepy zombiefied way it displays clothes and eyes. Until I render, it is impossible to tell if the flesh coming through the clothes is because of fit issues (which have driven me crazy ever since I started using poser 7) or due to the monitor problems. Does anybody know how I can adust the "monitor" and/or poser to eliminate that problem? Please, don't suggest I upgrade. I'm a brain injury survivor in my 60's living on Social Security and just one step from homelessness.

Damnit, the files won't attach. I try the little icon below, nothing happens. I click where it says "or selscting them" on the right hand of tis window, and nothing happens. I try dropping and dragging them and it completely shuts the thead down. I try "edit in full screen" and there's no way to do it there, I change browsers and nothing happens.

I f*cking give up.

What graphic format is your image? the "Photo" icon should work on jpgs and pngs. Give me a little more detailed process and I can help you get the images up here. As for your monitors ... I may have some thoughts on that as well after I see the images.

OOps. I just discovered that I'd been tryng to attach .bmp's, which are about 15 times as big as .jpg's. I always export renders in .bmp's because the old (circa 1998) photo editing program I use will not recognize .jpg renders from poser, but I always convert those .bmp's later to .jpgs on the same program, if that makes any sense. But I'd forgotten to do that. Let's see if this works... OK, here's before and after rendring of the guy in the foreground and the two female figures. All the other figures are layers from pervious renderings, like we discussed. I often got body parts sticking through poser 7 clothes when using other monitors, but never those eyeballs popping out of the skull! I did a lot of touch-up and drew the hair over the poser 4 hair on the blond woman, but I didn't need to edit their faces any. This is from my graphic novel Varinka, which I'm turning into a video slide show, with music and short animations.

the only editing I did on the guy in the foreground after rendering was draw in some perspiration on his tee shirt and fill in for his collars where I left those invisible so they wouldn't poke through.

What render setting are you using? Preview? You might want to check your mat room settings for your eyes ... the transparency settings don't seem to be coming through in either one and that shows up more in the render than before. In Preview mode you will never get natural shadows or true texture maps. You would have to render in Firefly to do that. What effect are you seeking in the final render? Different monitors should have NO effect on poke throughs.

I've noticed there's a difference in the way things look when you switch to SreeD for preview. Also, playing with the Hither setting on Camera can sometimes eliminate the appearance of "Pre Render Pokethrough".

Boni posted at 10:12PM Fri, 29 July 2016 - #4277471

What render setting are you using? Preview? You might want to check your mat room settings for your eyes ... the transparency settings don't seem to be coming through in either one and that shows up more in the render than before. In Preview mode you will never get natural shadows or true texture maps. You would have to render in Firefly to do that. What effect are you seeking in the final render? Different monitors should have NO effect on poke throughs.

Boni, for the top example that's just the preview of the guy in the foreground and the two women runners, to show you the weird effects I'm talking about. (all the other figures are layers of previous rendering and touch-up) That's what I have to work with, and it's maddening not to know what's the poke-through and what skin will disappear upon render. The second image was rendered with firefly, then touched up heavily, and the end result isn't exactly what I wanted it to look like, but as there are over 1,200 panels in the graphic novel I'm working on and I'm 4 years behind, I can't be too perfectionist if I want to finish it in my lifetime.

Just a couple questions about the nudity warning- Do I have to click that every time I answer a post in this thread, or is the fact you (or somebody else at renderosity) has already clicked it for the thread cover it? I had no idea the skin showing through their tee shirts would trigger that. Sorry I was so clueless.

My second question is: Would a picture of a mother breast feeding her baby require a warning?

SamTherapy posted at 10:29PM Fri, 29 July 2016 - #4277586

I've noticed there's a difference in the way things look when you switch to SreeD for preview. Also, playing with the Hither setting on Camera can sometimes eliminate the appearance of "Pre Render Pokethrough".

Sam , thanks I'll try shifting to SreeD. It's been set at Open GL, I think by default, but I may have changed it accidentally. I've been keeping the Yon setting high because that seems to allow for rendering shadows when all else fails. I'll see if changing the Hither setting changes anything.