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Subject: Nea 3 makes a step back


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pitklad ( ) posted Wed, 02 April 2014 at 4:03 AM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 3:13 AM

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Nea 3 would be a total reshape of the face area with a lot of polygons slides

There is a post back from 2012 with the WIP

However since this would make all existing morphs and textures break this should be shifted to  version 4 with new morphs and UV.

So Nea 3 will be mostly an update to include the changeable UV between Victoria 2 and Posette skins plus some alternative geometry body parts

Some work has been done to the face shape but not in polygons position


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pitklad ( ) posted Wed, 02 April 2014 at 4:06 AM

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Micro corrections on the nostrils, eye and lip area

 

As a reminder I have to mention that Nea is a figure based on Poser 4 woman Posette

A low resolution mesh for todays standards that accepts Victoria 2 textures


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pitklad ( ) posted Wed, 02 April 2014 at 4:22 AM

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A non texture comparison


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booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 02 April 2014 at 11:47 AM

Cool!


momodot ( ) posted Wed, 02 April 2014 at 5:21 PM

Nice!



pitklad ( ) posted Fri, 18 April 2014 at 9:30 AM

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Hello everyone, sorry for the slow updates

Here is Nea 3 with the alternative suit and stockings option


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pitklad ( ) posted Fri, 18 April 2014 at 9:34 AM

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And here is the sculp and ear reworked shape


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booksbydavid ( ) posted Fri, 18 April 2014 at 10:37 AM

Looking good.


momodot ( ) posted Fri, 18 April 2014 at 12:12 PM

Looks great!!



Alisa ( ) posted Fri, 18 April 2014 at 1:57 PM

Very cool :)

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pitklad ( ) posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 2:24 AM

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another side by side comparison between Nea 2 and Nea 3 the changes are subtle but I believe give a smoother look and add realism


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pitklad ( ) posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 2:53 AM

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This is the progress of the whole Nea Project from Posette with Victoria 2 skin to Nea 1 and than to Nea 1 P4 that was a morph For the Nea 1 with Posette skin This was the base for Nea 2 and here we are today at Nea 3


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momodot ( ) posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 8:44 AM

I like the slightly less angular bone structure on Nea 3. 



pitklad ( ) posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 8:57 AM

I am also thinking about making small changes on the body shape

but I'm afraid that Posette cloths wouldn't fit perfectly than...


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booksbydavid ( ) posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 7:44 PM

Really do like the changes to Nea 3 face. Very nice.


momodot ( ) posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 9:01 PM

you should go for it and make the figure exactly as you want it. Poser 4 clothes are robust and scale well. If you make JP changes the clothes should work with rigging from a donor CR2. 



pitklad ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 6:28 AM

I am not gonna tweek the JP, just the shape of the body

maybee I'll do that and include shapes to go back to Posette shape

I would love to try weightmaps on Nea but is seams like it needs a lot of time to setup


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MarianneR ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 11:01 AM
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Maybe you could try weightmapping only the big joints, like shoulders and thighs and not bother with the fingers for example.


pitklad ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 2:29 PM

MarianneR  I agree with you about partial weightmaping

I'll have to search for tutorials about this as the automatic method converts all the joints at once


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MarianneR ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 2:42 PM · edited Sun, 20 April 2014 at 2:42 PM
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Select a body part, say the thigh, and open the joint editor. Choose Bend, Twist or Side-Side.

Press the button "Add" and you get four choices, the last one is "Merge Zones to Weight Map". Then you can start painting. :)

I tried this a bit with the P7 Kate figure but didn't have the patience to finish it.

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pitklad ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 3:01 PM

Thanks for the image this will help me to start! I have loaded some weighmaped figures but never used them at the extend to understand how they workand how clothes work with them

For now there is still job to be done with the third version of Nea

I'm reworking the body UV to accept Victoria 2  textures better than previous Nea versions

Also as soon as I get to the final face shape all existing morphs should be tested and if nessesary reworked or deleted

I'll post the body changes in the next days


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booksbydavid ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 9:07 PM

Weight mapping in Poser isn't difficult, but it does take a bit of practice. The good thing is you can work on one side and then use symmetry to take care of the other side. Saves a lot of frustration. :)


pitklad ( ) posted Tue, 22 April 2014 at 11:35 AM

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Does the weight map information gets stored on the character file? So that the same file can work with other obj files too?

By the way here is a preview of the alternative animal feet


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MarianneR ( ) posted Tue, 22 April 2014 at 2:41 PM
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Yes, the weight map info is in the cr2.


pitklad ( ) posted Tue, 22 April 2014 at 4:36 PM · edited Tue, 22 April 2014 at 4:37 PM

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Cool thank you! So I can make changes on the base obj while working on the weight map...

Here are the body changes I'm thinking to include on this version


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pitklad ( ) posted Tue, 22 April 2014 at 5:07 PM

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And a front view

The  buttock got smoother and tighter

At first I also lifted those a bit bur Posette has long thighs and they looked even longer

The thorax is narrower but waist kept at the same size as it is a Posette signature body shape part


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pitklad ( ) posted Tue, 22 April 2014 at 5:17 PM

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Finaly a side view


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booksbydavid ( ) posted Tue, 22 April 2014 at 11:11 PM

The changes to the neck make a nice difference. Looks much better.


ima70 ( ) posted Thu, 24 April 2014 at 4:25 PM

Great work as always! I like the lips shape in Nea3 looks very natural


pitklad ( ) posted Thu, 24 April 2014 at 5:01 PM

ima70! how are my friend? it's been a long time I heard from you!

Thank you and everyone else for the nice comments!


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pitklad ( ) posted Sun, 27 April 2014 at 3:34 AM

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I started remapping UV using Blender's excellent tools

Here is a before-after image of the feet


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mylemonblue ( ) posted Tue, 29 April 2014 at 12:12 AM

Those improvements look fantastic. Thanks for showing us the update. (^o^)b

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pitklad ( ) posted Tue, 29 April 2014 at 2:44 AM · edited Tue, 29 April 2014 at 2:50 AM

I'm glad you like those

It is fun for me and also works as a diary of the WIP and maybee keeps me from abandoning the project

Updates may take time but this post keeps them together :)


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shante ( ) posted Sat, 21 November 2015 at 1:06 PM · edited Sat, 21 November 2015 at 1:15 PM

Nice to see you still at making Posette like figures better. Reworking her to use V2 textures is a great offering. Posette had some ugly body bends on her so I am wondering if these changes are going to fix some of them. It will be nice seeing how she will render in the newer Poser versions. Of course just adding V2 textures will not be enough to make her stand proud beside V4 but good textures bumps and reflection mapping should do the trick if the body shapes are brought up to speed. look forward to seeing what you do for her.

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EldritchCellar ( ) posted Sat, 21 November 2015 at 2:43 PM

He probably moved on from "community" participation, it's a small pool. Notice he no longer has an avatar? He used to. Indicates he deleted it.



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Boni ( ) posted Sat, 21 November 2015 at 4:10 PM

Know if this figure (character for Posette) is available anywhere?

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EldritchCellar ( ) posted Sat, 21 November 2015 at 11:41 PM

I have version 2 I think, don't think it's available anymore. Used to be at sharecg, no longer. It was a RTEncoded customization (in progressive versions) of Posette. There should be some threads buried here somewhere from a couple few years ago and there's some dead links and discussions at Posette Forever.



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WandW ( ) posted Sun, 22 November 2015 at 11:46 AM · edited Sun, 22 November 2015 at 11:53 AM

I have Nea 2.12, and a couple of morphs and characters for her. I can put these on my Google Drive if anyone wants her, as the zips are redistributable...

EDIT: She can be gotten here: 😃

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9_I3V6UTuuXZlpXYjNoYlB4Zk0&usp=sharing

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EldritchCellar ( ) posted Sun, 22 November 2015 at 12:31 PM

That's cool of you WandW, didn't realize they were redistributable. Would be a shame to see all of Pitklad's work on that project disappear into obscurity...



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AetherDream ( ) posted Sun, 22 November 2015 at 10:17 PM

It is always interesting to see the work that people can do with the older meshes. Very artistic.

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pitklad ( ) posted Thu, 26 November 2015 at 7:01 PM

Hello everyone! Thanks for your interest on Nea! It was quite a surprise to see this post revive! I've merged all the Nea 2.12 free stuff on a bundle You can find the file here:

Nea 2.12 bundle

I may pack Nea 3 at the current state as a beta the next days also

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EldritchCellar ( ) posted Fri, 27 November 2015 at 2:50 PM

Cool, nice to hear from you Pitklad.



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pitklad ( ) posted Thu, 06 October 2016 at 5:36 PM

Hello everyone! It's been almost one year, the last month I've got some spare time so here is a preview of the new male morph Maybe I'll also update Zenon alongside Nea 3 brother-and-sister.jpg


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seachnasaigh ( ) posted Thu, 06 October 2016 at 11:05 PM

They both look good, pitklad. Bravo!

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Jules53757 ( ) posted Fri, 07 October 2016 at 3:42 AM

Cool!


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ghostship2 ( ) posted Sat, 08 October 2016 at 11:41 PM

cool!

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pitklad ( ) posted Sat, 20 January 2018 at 12:20 PM · edited Sat, 20 January 2018 at 12:34 PM

Hello everyone! I didn't want to make any more teasers or wip posts

This time I have a download link for you

Nea 3 aeonia is up!

Please if anyone has a problem with installation let me know

Thanks again for your interest an support!!

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 20 January 2018 at 1:06 PM

Crikey! Many thanks for this. I'll get right to it.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2018 at 1:49 AM

Installation works fine, thanks!

One weirdness I have noticed is the poses force a geometry switch from Hip 0 to Hip 1, which makes the texture look strange.

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pitklad ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2018 at 4:36 AM · edited Mon, 22 January 2018 at 4:39 AM

SamTherapy you are right, it seams that poser includes the geometry change channel of the poses.

So when you use Posette skin body dial for example it tweaks it.

I'll update it ASAP. Thank you so much for the feedback!


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SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2018 at 7:56 AM

You're a star. Many thanks.

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