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Subject: Lighting for toon renders?


HKHan99 ( ) posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 5:01 PM ยท edited Sun, 05 January 2025 at 7:35 AM

I am trying to follow the three minute tutorial on toon rendering, but my Poser 11 library doesn't seem to include either the 'superflat ' lighting profile or any of the other toon presets I can see on the screen in that tutorial, only the 'simple toon' preset. Where can I get those lighting presets?


quietrob ( ) posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 7:51 PM

Superflat. Did you mean Superfly?

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HKHan99 ( ) posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 8:03 PM

No, in the tutorial there's a lighting scheme called 'superflat'. The guy in the tut talks like it's standard, but I can't find it.


HKHan99 ( ) posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 8:04 PM

Oh yeah, the link: (I found it on the forum here somewhere originally)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkN8dN-FtGI


CobraBlade ( ) posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 8:30 PM

No that is definitely a light set they have download or a preset they created themselves. I'll see if I can track it down for you.

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rokket ( ) posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 8:34 PM

It's an IBL set to low intensity. Like CobraBlade said, it's something he made or downloaded.

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CobraBlade ( ) posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 8:45 PM

No luck trying to find it, you could maybe contact them and ask if they could share the light set with you, or you could recreate it using this video. Delete all the lights in a new scene. Then create just one using the settings you can see on there, luckily they have the light selected so you can see all its properties right there. Then save this to your lights folder.

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rokket ( ) posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 9:06 PM

Since it's an IBL, you just have to find out which image was used for it.

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HKHan99 ( ) posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 10:39 PM

Thanks, all. I'll give it a try.


quietrob ( ) posted Sun, 18 August 2019 at 12:33 AM

No, HK. Thank you. That was a simple but easy tut on the comic style. I secretly think it's Darkseal in yet another disguise but I'll give that tut a try myself. Btw, You might choose your own lighting but I never truly understood IBL and why it doesn't get along with IDL.



Boni ( ) posted Sun, 18 August 2019 at 8:43 AM

Just from my experience with toon rendering ... you don't need an image in IBL ... it just floods the whole scene with light. Adjust it to your scene to bring out the details and colors in a toon render. With toon rendering you need to look at lighting from a whole new perspective because you are trying to emphasize the colors and the line work ... which is why the tut refers to their lighting as superflat. The only time you want a lot of shadows is if you have noir scenes ... and again adjust your lighting accordingly.

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HKHan99 ( ) posted Mon, 19 August 2019 at 10:35 PM

Boni posted at 10:28PM Mon, 19 August 2019 - #4359740

Just from my experience with toon rendering ... you don't need an image in IBL ... it just floods the whole scene with light. Adjust it to your scene to bring out the details and colors in a toon render. With toon rendering you need to look at lighting from a whole new perspective because you are trying to emphasize the colors and the line work ... which is why the tut refers to their lighting as superflat. The only time you want a lot of shadows is if you have noir scenes ... and again adjust your lighting accordingly.

Well, actually I am after a noir look... I've been noodling around- man, those comic settings scattered all over and really non-intuitive... I finally figured out how to get a pretty hard-edged noirish look from the smooth shading and comic book settings, but I'd like to be able to do something similar with colors. Using the texture shading setting and color comic book is not at all satisfactory, though perhaps it could be if there were more adjustments available.

This image is kinda sorta one of the styles I want to work with, but there are lots of problems with the rendering- big chunky pixelation that I think is from the mesh? The eyes on La Femme don't render in preview mode. And I don't seem to have figured out how to make a cast shadow in preview mode, either.

LF smooth comicbook 002.png

This other one has some nice qualities, but I see that the grid of the dome shows through the figure- what's the best way to avoid that without putting in a background?

LF smooth comicbook 001.png


Boni ( ) posted Tue, 20 August 2019 at 1:50 PM

You are right it takes a precise hand. But it is all based on light and shadow as well as how much geometric line you want and general outline ... and where the light is coming from. For Noir ... you want an IBL and either a spot light or an infinite light. You don't need more lights than that. Then tweak intensity, position of lights and the comic settings. Once you have a set of lightings you like, save them and label them for future use. Note the comic settings and save a blank scene in your library with all the settings you want to bring in your characters and props. This will help streamline your workflow and you don't have to start from scratch every time. Have fun!!

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HKHan99 ( ) posted Tue, 20 August 2019 at 3:09 PM

Boni posted at 3:07PM Tue, 20 August 2019 - #4359924

You are right it takes a precise hand. But it is all based on light and shadow as well as how much geometric line you want and general outline ... and where the light is coming from. For Noir ... you want an IBL and either a spot light or an infinite light. You don't need more lights than that. Then tweak intensity, position of lights and the comic settings. Once you have a set of lightings you like, save them and label them for future use. Note the comic settings and save a blank scene in your library with all the settings you want to bring in your characters and props. This will help streamline your workflow and you don't have to start from scratch every time. Have fun!!

Thanks, Boni. Good tips on workflow!


HartyBart ( ) posted Wed, 21 August 2019 at 9:22 PM ยท edited Wed, 21 August 2019 at 9:23 PM

Load one light only. Set it to low intensity (15-20%). Point it directly at the character or prop. Set to IBL. Save as a preset.

It's not difficult.



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SeanMartin ( ) posted Thu, 22 August 2019 at 1:47 AM

If you want to give it a bit of a push, turn on the IBL's shadows (they're off by default with an IBL) and set them for about 20-25%.

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HKHan99 ( ) posted Thu, 22 August 2019 at 12:08 PM

SeanMartin posted at 12:08PM Thu, 22 August 2019 - #4360080

If you want to give it a bit of a push, turn on the IBL's shadows (they're off by default with an IBL) and set them for about 20-25%.

I'll give that a shot. Thanks


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