Hi, I just purchased a fancy new computer and will be buying Poser 11 pro shortly, I was very much into earlier versions of Poser... in particular modeling and rigging custom stuff. I haven't used it in a while though, kinda went over to Carrara and traditional media and stopped interacting on forums much. Anyway, I'm curious about what vertex weight map style rigged figures are included with the installation content. Looking for a replacement for V4, both La Femme and Dawn seem nicely put together. Are either part of the installation? Also are there any toon or non human figures that have come along during my hiatus? Thanks for any replies...

There is LaFemme lite which is included with Poser, and Dawn and Dusk are included with the bonus content you can download after you have purchased poser 11. (You can download poser for a free 21 day trial but don't get access to the bonus content until you buy it.)

This

https://www.renderosity.com/have-you-seen-the-new-poser-pro-11--cms-22318

shows you the bonus content.

Maisie is a new toon type human figure but don't use toons myself so can't really say what's new.

You also get the Hivewire Horse and Gorilla.

Cool. Thanks Nails60. 21 bucks for the... non lite version... of La Femme seems pretty darned reasonable. Seems like there's a lot of new stuff to learn.

There's also several weight mapped versions of older DAZ figures out there. Sasha-16 is a WM figure based around V4, for example. Also, Project Evolution which is an original figure, available elsewhere.

Project evolution is available here too https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/project-evolution-one/127770/

Hi Pumeco (IIRC) ;)

Devil Porn Theater? Well... Devils yes, porn no. Most of the things I've been doing are renders of custom models as illustrations for my current Dungeons and Dragons game I've been running... stuff like below, sculpt in Zbrush, relatively low res bas relief, AO render...

I remember when V4 first came out, as well as Genesis, both initially used the same mesh. Dawn and Dusk as well. Sharing the same base mesh definitely has it's advantages. My criticism of it is due to the fact that in some cases, such as the V4 Male and, IIRC, Genesis 1, the base mesh has to remain pretty much as close to androgynous as possible, since, in those two cases, at least, the males were actually morphs. It's still early in the game for L'Homme, but in my opinion, while they can still use the mesh, they need to get away from the morph ASAP.

@EldritchCellar - Aye, you found me out, and I love the devil. I reckon it would look great in black, used as the detailing on some intricately detailed throne!

BTW, I cannot believe I forgot to mention Dawn in my previous post, who actually, probably rates highest on looking the most seductive right out of the box so to speak. I really like Dawn, and she comes across as the ideal base for mature woman characters.

I think Dawn was already around when you were last here though.

@Clarkie - Still don't like the idea of having a single mesh for both sexes. It's not only stupid from a commercial point of view, it's actually completely pointless. I also hate it when figures have gens separated from the main mesh. This is something I was especially pleased to read; that Shane had addressed it the way it always should have been addressed, by having separate male and female meshes, each with a built-in gen that can be morphed away into a form when not required.

If I were a figure developer, that's the way I would go about it too, it's the perfect solution because it means no more grafting, no more texture misalignment, no more effort other than to spin a dial. It's perfect, and is the way all figures should have handled their gens right from the very start IMHO.

I never understood why this was never so!

The thing that is most attractive to me about La Femme ( although admittedly I've never cared for the GND body type) is the fact that the base morphs and textures can be used and altered (ala merchant resource) and consequently redistributed. I plan on creating characters as freebies if so. Hopefully there are still some .cr2 experts that hang about the forum as I'm not sure how much the file format and function has changed since last I looked. Are Netherworks script suites updated and viable for Poser 11, or even available anymore? Does Phil C still pop in? Does Nerd 3d answer forum questions? Dimension 3D? And what of Baggins Bill? A lot of questions and a lot to catch up on... I lost a bunch of Poser stuff when my last computer died recently.

I just looked over at the Technical Forums and I see that Nerd and Bloodsong are present there so I suppose I can find any answers I might need in terms of file shenanigans... That's great.

EldritchCellar posted at 9:35AM Sat, 22 February 2020 - #4381416

The thing that is most attractive to me about La Femme ( although admittedly I've never cared for the GND body type) is the fact that the base morphs and textures can be used and altered (ala merchant resource) and consequently redistributed. I plan on creating characters as freebies if so. Hopefully there are still some .cr2 experts that hang about the forum as I'm not sure how much the file format and function has changed since last I looked. Are Netherworks script suites updated and viable for Poser 11, or even available anymore? Does Phil C still pop in? Does Nerd 3d answer forum questions? Dimension 3D? And what of Baggins Bill? A lot of questions and a lot to catch up on... I lost a bunch of Poser stuff when my last computer died recently.

I believe the La Femme MRs are for commercial use only, not freebies. I could be wrong, though. Rest assured, I will be corrected if I am. :-)

Nethworks' stuff is still available both here and at Hivewire and updated to work in Poser 11 long ago.

PhilC is not around much anymore, though he does pop in occasionally.

Dimension3D passed away some time ago.

Bagginsbill is here occasionally as well.

Nerd is more likely to answer individual question over in the Poser 11 technical forum than here.

I think that answered all your questions.

Hi Glitterati3D, I thought I read Blackhearted say that the base morphs and textures included with La Femme were redistributable? It's not that big of a deal but having a decent map and rudimentary morphs to alter and springboard from would certainly save a lot of labor. I'd certainly be more inspired to create stuff for her. No interest in commercial endeavors whatsoever...

EldritchCellar posted at 10:15AM Sat, 22 February 2020 - #4381420

Hi Glitterati3D, I thought I read Blackhearted say that the base morphs and textures included with La Femme were redistributable? It's not that big of a deal but having a decent map and rudimentary morphs to alter and springboard from would certainly save a lot of labor. I'd certainly be more inspired to create stuff for her. No interest in commercial endeavors whatsoever...

They ARE redistributable, but I think as commercial products only. I re-read the included ReadMe and it does not make that point clear, so I could be mistaken. However, if you are going to do freebies, I would suggest you ask the powers that be for clarity.

Ah. Well, no biggie if that's the case. It's one aspect of Poser amongst many that's appealing. Ever try importing and applying custom morphs in Carrara, and don't get me started on dependencies and ERC lol?(sarcasm)... It'll be a week or so before I purchase Poser 11... I really miss the preview render styles and workspace. A Poser noob reborn... this time with a windows machine.

Retrowave posted at 10:54AM Sat, 22 February 2020 - #4381415

@Clarkie - Still don't like the idea of having a single mesh for both sexes. It's not only stupid from a commercial point of view, it's actually completely pointless. I also hate it when figures have gens separated from the main mesh. This is something I was especially pleased to read; that Shane had addressed it the way it always should have been addressed, by having separate male and female meshes, each with a built-in gen that can be morphed away into a form when not required.

If I were a figure developer, that's the way I would go about it too, it's the perfect solution because it means no more grafting, no more texture misalignment, no more effort other than to spin a dial. It's perfect, and is the way all figures should have handled their gens right from the very start IMHO.

I never understood why this was never so!

Oh, come on. It's not that hard to figure out. Oh, that's right, you're in the UK. Well, twenty to thirty years ago, the internet was a lot more prudish than it is now. Most companies that sold figures like Daz and Poser went the family -friendly route because there was less hassle. Places like Renderotica, though they've been around now for awhile, weren't here thirty years ago.

As an off topic aside, I'm sure I've gotten into heated arguments with at least 3 of the folks here that have replied. Needn't worry about that anymore, that's what FB is for (blech!)... I'll admit I did start to get that old uncomfortable feeling again when I was reading some of the comments aimed at Blackhearted in regard to La Femme in that thread. Stuff like that is what drives away some of Poser's most knowledgeable and talented people. Damn shame, hopefully all that neurosis is a thing of the past...

I disagree with Retrowave about the separate mesh thing, but it's hardly big enough for me to argue with him about it. But if you're afraid I'll start a fight, worry no more. I won't be responding to this thread anymore.

And, getting back on topic, basically all the content that comes with Poser 11.2 is new, most from the Renderosity store, and works with Poser 11. The highlights, however, are the Hivewire figures (Dawn, Dusk, Luna, the horse and the gorilla), the new Poser 11 flagship figure (La Femme) and Maise (a toon figure) along with lots of high quality content from some of our oldest, favored artists like DM, etc. I think the ad says something like $900.00 worth of commercial quality content from the store.

The old, tired content is available to you through a separate download on the same page as the new stuff.

Oh! And one of the nicest things of all is that there are no longer pro/non-pro versions of the software. Everyone is now on Poser PRO and has all the pro functions available to them. I think that's one of the smartest moves Renderosity made.

Eclark1894, I wasn't referring to you in my comment above lol. Sigh. Anyway thanks for all the responses, it's all I needed to know.

Glitterati3D posted at 9:16AM Sun, 23 February 2020 - #4381424

EldritchCellar posted at 10:15AM Sat, 22 February 2020 - #4381420

Hi Glitterati3D, I thought I read Blackhearted say that the base morphs and textures included with La Femme were redistributable? It's not that big of a deal but having a decent map and rudimentary morphs to alter and springboard from would certainly save a lot of labor. I'd certainly be more inspired to create stuff for her. No interest in commercial endeavors whatsoever...

They ARE redistributable, but I think as commercial products only. I re-read the included ReadMe and it does not make that point clear, so I could be mistaken. However, if you are going to do freebies, I would suggest you ask the powers that be for clarity.

Nobody complained when I did my base makeup freebie for La Femme. You really have to own the product to use it.

Let's not forget Paul and Pauline. They had a rough start, but I think they are still excellent figures with potential.

Glitterati3D posted at 5:04PM Thu, 27 February 2020 - #4381419

EldritchCellar posted at 9:35AM Sat, 22 February 2020 - #4381416

The thing that is most attractive to me about La Femme ( although admittedly I've never cared for the GND body type) is the fact that the base morphs and textures can be used and altered (ala merchant resource) and consequently redistributed. I plan on creating characters as freebies if so. Hopefully there are still some .cr2 experts that hang about the forum as I'm not sure how much the file format and function has changed since last I looked. Are Netherworks script suites updated and viable for Poser 11, or even available anymore? Does Phil C still pop in? Does Nerd 3d answer forum questions? Dimension 3D? And what of Baggins Bill? A lot of questions and a lot to catch up on... I lost a bunch of Poser stuff when my last computer died recently.

I believe the La Femme MRs are for commercial use only, not freebies. I could be wrong, though. Rest assured, I will be corrected if I am. :-)

Nethworks' stuff is still available both here and at Hivewire and updated to work in Poser 11 long ago.

PhilC is not around much anymore, though he does pop in occasionally.

Dimension3D passed away some time ago.

Bagginsbill is here occasionally as well.

Nerd is more likely to answer individual question over in the Poser 11 technical forum than here.

I think that answered all your questions.

Yo! Sup!?? I'm so you didn't go away as reported!

Oh and don't forget about Simon 3-D. I don't know if you were around when he passed but I corresponded with him. He was beyond cool and is still missed.

Hello quietrob :)

Now that you've found us, how long will you stay?

Long enough to find you those Sensible Shoes on one of my old discs lol. Only partially kidding about that one, I may have them tucked away somewhere... It'll probably be a while before I start rummaging for them. But I've made a mental note. Other than that my Poser Fu is EXTREMELY rusty, so it'll be a long road before I can rattle off Poser lore as I once did. Very much interested in learning weight map rigging and it seems like a lot of the things I used to have to hack in text edit are now automated, so that's a relief. I'm grabbing Poser 11 pro this weekend. I run an 8 hour Dungeons and Dragons game for friends every Sunday and work is busy so I'll have to manage my time pretty tightly, other than that I'm looking forward to making various bits and bobs for Poser and reinvigorating my ShareCG gallery. So... I'll be lurking here somewhere.

Glitterati3D posted at 12:42PM Fri, 28 February 2020 - #4381451

And, getting back on topic, basically all the content that comes with Poser 11.2 is new, most from the Renderosity store, and works with Poser 11. The highlights, however, are the Hivewire figures (Dawn, Dusk, Luna, the horse and the gorilla), the new Poser 11 flagship figure (La Femme) and Maise (a toon figure) along with lots of high quality content from some of our oldest, favored artists like DM, etc. I think the ad says something like $900.00 worth of commercial quality content from the store.

The old, tired content is available to you through a separate download on the same page as the new stuff.

Oh! And one of the nicest things of all is that there are no longer pro/non-pro versions of the software. Everyone is now on Poser PRO and has all the pro functions available to them. I think that's one of the smartest moves Renderosity made.

I'm restocking my hard drive with the old content that I lost during the crash. I can't remember for the life of me what the download site was. I could use a clue.

EldritchCellar posted at 12:44PM Fri, 28 February 2020 - #4382056

Long enough to find you those Sensible Shoes on one of my old discs lol. Only partially kidding about that one, I may have them tucked away somewhere... It'll probably be a while before I start rummaging for them. But I've made a mental note. Other than that my Poser Fu is EXTREMELY rusty, so it'll be a long road before I can rattle off Poser lore as I once did. Very much interested in learning weight map rigging and it seems like a lot of the things I used to have to hack in text edit are now automated, so that's a relief. I'm grabbing Poser 11 pro this weekend. I run an 8 hour Dungeons and Dragons game for friends every Sunday and work is busy so I'll have to manage my time pretty tightly, other than that I'm looking forward to making various bits and bobs for Poser and reinvigorating my ShareCG gallery. So... I'll be lurking here somewhere.

My beloved big brother once told me "The thought DOES count". So I thank you for that thought. I managed to gain the shoes from mcjASmile. But still I thank you.

Stupid question, what does the PoserSupport.exe do?

(Crickets lol) ...and humor me on this. My new computer is the first windows machine I've ever owned, prior to this I would just manually install all of my content into the runtime(s) on my Mac. Now I'm facing installing all of the Poser 11 premium content and all of the legacy content into my new installation of Poser. It's my understanding, or so I thought, that the process of installing content from .zip files into Windows versions of Poser is a bit different than that on a Mac?

...well I suppose if I have to do it all manually it'll give me that old warm nostalgic feeling of rummaging around in Poser's labyrinthine runtime guts. Hopefully this time my whole computer's hard drive isn't overrun with Pekingese faced scantily clad virtual dolls that are just languishing there, attention starved, because of some bizarre subcultural collector's fetish ;)

PoserSuppport.exe contains the support files needed by Poser. Things like the manual, Walk Designer layouts and other assorted files.

EldritchCellar posted at 2:06AM Sun, 01 March 2020 - #4382164

(Crickets lol) ...and humor me on this. My new computer is the first windows machine I've ever owned, prior to this I would just manually install all of my content into the runtime(s) on my Mac. Now I'm facing installing all of the Poser 11 premium content and all of the legacy content into my new installation of Poser. It's my understanding, or so I thought, that the process of installing content from .zip files into Windows versions of Poser is a bit different than that on a Mac?

On Windows it's treated just like any other folder, so just double-click with the left mouse button to access what's inside it. Whatever is inside can be Un-Zipped by dragging the contents onto the Desktop or onto another location on your drive.

Thanks. I found some threads that explained all my queries, which I suppose I should have done in the first place. Windows is just different enough than Mac OS to make the installation a wee more rocky. Everything seems to be working out well. I'll make one adversarial comment about liking Sasha-16 better than...

Nah lol. Thanks again :)

Thanks back at you!

I just did a search after your 'adversarial comment', wanted to see what you were on about. Never heard of that figure before, but just found the official website and downloaded it. Did you have to have V4 installed prior to installing it, or is it a complete figure on its own? I don't want to create diplicates etc, so thought it best to ask since I've not even installed the standard V4 yet. I only just got Poser 10 installed for the first time in years, and will install this next once I'm sure of the proper way to do it. The instructions don't mention whether the standard V4 needs to be installed first.

In the documentation read the file Which files go where.txt

Make sure that you have V4 working with V4 Morphs ++. Go to Library Characters and load Sasha 16 Setup.

Cheers! I saw the instructions and will follow them just as soon as I know why my Morphs++ and Muscle Morphs are not showing up on V4. I won't go into that here though, cause I started another thread about the installation probs I'm having. I can hardly believe I've spent around four hours trying to get some content installed, but there ya go!

Looking through my product library at Daz, grabbing all my A3 stuff, and I came across this. The advertising copy is priceless...

Those glasses look very 80s!

BTW, I got Sasha-16 installed, looks nice, but there's a few things not working on mine. Can't remember them all but I know 'Breasts Hang Forward' was one of them not working. Not sure if I did something wrong during the install, or whether it's a bug.