How can I make it so collars and flaps on clothing don't droop during sims? I tried making clothing stiff and those pieces rigid but no luck. Was trying to sim trenchcoat in this https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-giuro-vendetta-hd-for-genesis-8

Hello Rockadude,

If a part of the cloth dropp during the sims, it is because this part of the cloth is not tied to the other parts. If you only use the stiffening by extension, you can modify the stiffness of the cloth. This stiffness will be defined along the structure of the mesh. If you want to tie a part of the cloth to another part, you have to use the stiffening by neighborhood. Just select the vertices you want to tie and apply a stiffening by neighborhood.

I never tried to simulate an outfit like this one but the result should work. Did you do your tests using the assistants?

I did tests using cloth assistant with 'very stiff' option selected, then under the forces and springs tab I tested with both vertices extension and vertices neighborhood options selected, with collar highlighted red, but trenchcoat came out looking like a bathrobe(Pic below). What settings and steps would you recommend for this to look more similar to promo pics? Been a while I been stuck in VWD as in past I've usually used it for hair or less complex clothing.

Hello,

I don't have any outfit like this one.

If you want I can do a test but I need the mesh of this coat. Can you export this mesh (just vertices and faces) no uvmap, no maps. So I cannot do anything else than doing a cloth simulation.

I am not used to do simulation on this kind of outfit. This will be a good test for me.

Here you go. https://drive.google.com/file/d/14zk7lNtg3Djwcwf75737m-aWEeHcPeKZ/view?usp=sharing

Not sure how to correctly export clothing yet but should still load. I just removed all maps and clothing morphs.

Hello,

I will do a test tomorrow. About the export, I had thought to the exportation of the mesh in OBJ format with only the vertices and the faces. I will tell you if all works fine with your files.

Alright, thanks.

Hello,

I have an issue with the files you sent me. The mesh does not appear, I only have bounding boxes in the Daz interface.

Please can you:

• Import Genesis 8 Male,
• Import the coat on G8M,
• Hide G8M
• Export the coat in OBJ format using the parameters I show you in the Image below. These parameters will allow me to do a simulation only.

Then, you can send me the .OBJ file. I will do some tests and I will reply to you quickly.

Thank you

Sorry, here's the obj file. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wWm92yA8dRNH4okmVQuxxP2QHZApX0Yg/view?usp=sharing

Hello,

Thank you for the OBJ file.

I made some tests and I really have difficulties to simulate the coat.

The full coat has been made using a double layer and VWD simulates this badly.

I want to do more testing to give you a definitive answer.

Thanks, I guess I should wait on simulating double-layer clothing for now until hopefully, a solution is found. I have another question, I'm trying to understand what stiffening by neighborhood and stiffening by extension do and the difference. Stiffening by neighborhood only connects two highlighted pieces together if next to each other, correct? While stiffening by extension connects highlighted pieces outside highlighted area, if next to it?

The Stiffening by extension generates springs along the surface of the mesh. The value defined in the interface corresponds to the number of times the extension is done on the mesh for each vertex. This stiffening corresponds to the global stiffness of the clothe.

The stiffening by neighborhood generates springs around each vertex defined by a sphere. The value defined in the interface corresponds to the radius of this sphere. This stiffening allows to tie parts of the mesh which are in independent elements (not linked by the structure of the mesh). This allows to attach the buttons on the outfit.

For both stiffening methods, There is another value corresponding to the softness of the springs.