This is by far the buggiest Poser ever, and I started with P2! No matter what I try to load, it crashes me right back to the desktop. Poser 11 ran fine... I was prepared for some small glitches, but not for -nothing- loading! Any ideas what might be wrong? Geforce GTX 1650 and AMD Ryzen5.

You still have Poser 11 working?

Yeah, no problems with 11.

When you say load, you mean loading an old file or loading a library figure/prop? If it is crashing when you load an old file my best guess is that you had "use external binary morph targets" checked or unchecked in P11 and it's set the opposite in your P12. EBMT cause some really nasty crashes.

Same picture here. I start Poser 12, try to open the preferences...boom, back to desktop. Open Poser 12, try to get to the render settings...puff, desktop again. First couple times it worked fine, i got some pretty quick rendered pictures out of it, but then it crashed after i played with the new post process tool. After this, the whole thing went down every time i opened it. I will wait until a more stable version is available.

blackbonner posted at 2:14PM Thu, 05 November 2020 - #4403412

Same picture here. I start Poser 12, try to open the preferences...boom, back to desktop. Open Poser 12, try to get to the render settings...puff, desktop again. First couple times it worked fine, i got some pretty quick rendered pictures out of it, but then it crashed after i played with the new post process tool. After this, the whole thing went down every time i opened it. I will wait until a more stable version is available.

Have you reported this? The whole idea with this "Early Access" Is to squash bugs.

Good idea, as soon as i am home from work today, i will contact the help desk. This was already the plan, but i thought it might be also a good idea to share this with you folks, in case you noticed the same behavior.

Well that is still harmless on my side I had a Full computer Crash like cutting the electricity , a real shock then it took a moment until I was able to boot back up. something Probably caused a overheating on the hardware and until cooled down it remained un boot able, not sure if it was the Processor, it could of been many other things.

made me Remember the blue screen. It never happen before on any other Poser version ! Ok for the ones that it happen and could not boot anymore they will be off for a while to make there remarks LOL. ( Might be a Bondware clown that toys around with the activation button he he )

Hasn't crashed for me yet (fingers crossed). Poser 11, OTOH...

My brother constantly tweaks and messes with setting on his PC. Because of this it's always crashing and not working right. I don't dare say to him that his constant dicking with his settings are causing the issues. I also remember an old friend (back in the early Windows days) used to leave the side door off of his PC because he always needed to get in there to "fix" something. My point? I suspect people having issues are the ones that tweak the CPU/GPU clock speeds and, um try to prevent their PC from calling home.

ghostship2 posted at 4:22PM Thu, 05 November 2020 - #4403367

When you say load, you mean loading an old file or loading a library figure/prop? If it is crashing when you load an old file my best guess is that you had "use external binary morph targets" checked or unchecked in P11 and it's set the opposite in your P12. EBMT cause some really nasty crashes.

Loading anythjng from Library crashes. Binary morphs I have never used. And I tried both settings, for my GeForce card and the CPU render... No difference. Click anything and wham!

I have found that I cannot load several of my models... nothing from Darkworld, Tempesta3d or Sabby. I haven't tried others but I suspect the same. My custom figures are fine but my vendor modes are largely absent. I have reloaded, turned Poser off and on off, turned the desktop off and on still the files don't appear. What is going on?

ghostship2 posted at 5:23PM Thu, 05 November 2020 - #4403443

My brother constantly tweaks and messes with setting on his PC. Because of this it's always crashing and not working right. I don't dare say to him that his constant dicking with his settings are causing the issues. I also remember an old friend (back in the early Windows days) used to leave the side door off of his PC because he always needed to get in there to "fix" something. My point? I suspect people having issues are the ones that tweak the CPU/GPU clock speeds and, um try to prevent their PC from calling home.

Can't say this is a accurate description of what i usually do with my PC. My machine is 10 years old, the CPU is a first generation i7x. My grafic card is a 2 years old nvidia gtx 1050ti. My system is Windows 10 pro newest version and constantly getting updates for windows and all component drivers. I will not neglect the notion that the behavior you described can cause issues, but i'm sure not in my case. I will check my entire system this weekend and file a ticket to the help desk after that. My guess is, that my PC is probably missing a spec because it's that old. I will read the system requirements for Poser 12 careful and see if i can find something.

@blackbonner Yeah, from what you describe your system should be behaving. My other thought is to unplug anything weird. I do music on my machine as well so I have rack mounted audio and MIDI interfaces plugged into my machine. Id unplug that stuff first on my machine to see if that was a problem.

@ghostship The only additional hardware plugged in to my PC is my Wacom Intuos 5. This thing is sitting there since Poser 2012. I doubt that it caused that crashing. We will see.

I was about to report that it has been extremely stable for me. I've had one crash so far: In the material room, pressing buttons too fast. (like a guess playing clue) Lesson I've learned long ago: Don't press buttons too fast. Wait for Poser to finish what it's working on. The other thing is it seems fast on start up, but slow at other more mundane tasks. Flipping materials seems very slow. Generally, ok so far.

sschneew posted at 7:17AM Fri, 06 November 2020 - #4403594

I was about to report that it has been extremely stable for me. I've had one crash so far: In the material room, pressing buttons too fast. (like a guess playing clue) Lesson I've learned long ago: Don't press buttons too fast. Wait for Poser to finish what it's working on. The other thing is it seems fast on start up, but slow at other more mundane tasks. Flipping materials seems very slow. Generally, ok so far.

Poser 11 had this bug. Click on a mat library preset and while it's thinking click on something else. Might have been a Python related problem. It was fixed years ago but might have cropped up again because of the new Python.

Yesterday evening i wanted to send a ticket to the help desk on poser software. It seems that in order to do so a serial number is required. I haven't purchased the new version yet so I only have the PP11 serial number. I am a bit lost in the woods momentarily so to speak.

Why don't you use the 11 serial number and explain that you are on the trial version in the comments?

@rhia474 That's a good idea. I have not done that because it was not mentioned in the form. If you open Poser for the first time, you have two fields for serial numbers, one is for the new numbers, the other is for the previus one, in case you purchased an upgrade version. I expected to find the same pattern in the form for the ticket. That's the place i got lost. But hey, what do you expect, i am german, we do all things by the book. ;)

updated poser12 and upon install adding a short cut and opening web page got blue screen of death error Qunda underflow I'm beginning to hate Win 10 its nick name is BSoD

ok i can open the retrace preview with out poser12 disappearing now and it works it renders slow