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Afrodite-Ohki posted at 3:57PM Sun, 28 February 2021 - #4414013
My newest LaFemme girl Debora (not released yet).
I love the scene. Beautiful light on her legs.
Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:09PM Sun, 28 February 2021 - #4414013
My newest LaFemme girl Debora (not released yet).
Wow ❤
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seachnasaigh posted at 10:21PM Sun, 28 February 2021 - #4412913
thoennes posted at 6:26AM Tue, 16 February 2021 - #4412907
seachnasaigh posted at 4:15AM Tue, 16 February 2021 - #4412617
Very cool scene.
How did you get the corner "wear" in the mats? In blender I use kitops bevel to do that.
Stonemason's stuff still looks cool.
And A3 was always a fave of mine.
I still use A3 a lot
Stonemason's sets are indeed still useful (the ARC is from 2007, the P7 era); they look much better with the materials updated for Superfly.
The scuff is already there in Stonemason's texture maps.I used PhotoImpact X3 to select the paint/rust colors of the texture images, and used that as a metallicity mask. So, anywhere the paint is scuffed away looks metallic. In the metallicity mask, white is metallic, and black is diffuse.
Imma have to try that. The result is sublime. Details matter :)
That's essentially what bevel does (automagically). Near as I can tell, it figures out the corners and "wears" them into a mask, just like that.
ghostship2 posted at 10:24PM Sun, 28 February 2021 - #4413619
recently submitted to that pinup contest that Rendo had. I did not win and am a little bitter about it. lol
For a female based pinup, doesn't the chest have to be a lot more prominent?
I really like this character. The expression is superb. Realistic. For la femme, that's impossible to get using just the morphs, and hard to get using the chips. Something in how the lips are rigged? In any case, you've done a brilliant job on it. I think this is what really makes the image pop. You have my vote. :)
thoennes posted at 6:03AM Mon, 01 March 2021 - #4414047
Hush and take my money!
That's a beautiful render of my next la-purchase!
Is that BB's hair shader? (or BB-like)
Thanks! Nah, that's a modification of ghostship2's hair shader - my hairstyles include that for P12 and bb's hair shader for p11.
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thoennes posted at 1:24AM Tue, 02 March 2021 - #4414049
Imma have to try that. The result is sublime. Details matter :)
That's essentially what bevel does (automagically). Near as I can tell, it figures out the corners and "wears" them into a mask, just like that.
I used Stonemason's "worn" textures because they were already there. As for automagically scuffing corners, I've never tried it, but I think Poser could do that. The derivative functions could be used to find edges and corners; that result would be used as a mask to replace paint material with scuffed bare metal.
Poser 12, in feet.
OSes: Win7Prox64, Win7Ultx64
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"I see white shores ahead!"
an elven grey ship:
night test:
The globe in the tail spiral is a navigator's star map:
I'm having trouble with the water because the derivative variable nodes aren't doing what I would expect them to do.
Poser 12, in feet.
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Afrodite-Ohki posted at 6:38PM Tue, 02 March 2021 - #4414066
thoennes posted at 6:03AM Mon, 01 March 2021 - #4414047
Hush and take my money!
That's a beautiful render of my next la-purchase!
Is that BB's hair shader? (or BB-like)
Thanks! Nah, that's a modification of ghostship2's hair shader - my hairstyles include that for P12 and bb's hair shader for p11.
Any advantage of one shader over the other? BB's gives great results (assuming the trans map is good). But it's hard on a CPU render (Mac), even with 18 cores grinding away. It helps when I drop the bucket size such that all the cores can work on the hair at the same time. If it's too large, one core goes for the entire hair area, while the others quickly finish the rest of the image.
thoennes posted at 8:32AM Wed, 03 March 2021 - #4414156
Any advantage of one shader over the other? BB's gives great results (assuming the trans map is good). But it's hard on a CPU render (Mac), even with 18 cores grinding away. It helps when I drop the bucket size such that all the cores can work on the hair at the same time. If it's too large, one core goes for the entire hair area, while the others quickly finish the rest of the image.
I think the P12 one renders faster. I like the way it looks better. The thing is, the bb shader doesn't look right in P12, it creates blocky sections all through the hair cards - I believe it's something about the specular nodes that p12 Superfly can't read anymore, as it's gotten closer to Blender Cycles.
Meanwhile, something in the nodes I use for my P12 shaders can't be read in P12 - they render greyish.
So yeah, in the case of my hairstyles, it only boils down to which Poser you're on.
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Afrodite-Ohki posted at 2:00PM Wed, 03 March 2021 - #4414176
Meanwhile, something in the nodes I use for my P12 shaders can't be read in P12 - they render greyish.
Oop, I meant "can't be read in P11". Augh.
@Y-Phil: Yes they are! Beautiful render!
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Afrodite-Ohki posted at 2:11PM Wed, 03 March 2021 - #4414196
@Y-Phil: Yes they are! Beautiful render!
Thank you Afrodite-Ohki
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Afrodite-Ohki posted at 1:22AM Thu, 04 March 2021 - #4414208
Was testing a blouse I just rigged, and ended up with accidental nice pinup of Anuli :D
Wow <3 <3
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La Femme (not the pro): Mina, wearing a dynamic dress, and sitting on a chair that I will never ever use again... (glitches included, increasing if subD used)
I had to fight to get this "milky" skin (not sure of the word...) but I'm rather happy
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Afrodite-Ohki posted at 1:53PM Mon, 08 March 2021 - #4414554
I love the shadows cast on her here~~
Thank you :-) "Spiaggia di Montello" on the background node, no other lights. And my thanks to the bush, which accepted to pose on the right place :D
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Afrodite-Ohki posted at 6:12AM Fri, 12 March 2021 - #4414767
Making lots of hair means I've been rendering way too many portraits lately :P
I'm in looove ❤❤❤
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Afrodite-Ohki posted at 12:53PM Fri, 12 March 2021 - #4414767
Making lots of hair means I've been rendering way too many portraits lately :P
And that's bad . . . why???
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On an earlier post Y-Phil mentions BB's Fog Capsule. I couldn't find anything on this, but after looking at the PP12 Manual on Cycles Nodes came up with the following attempt at god-rays and atmosphere akin to what is possible with atmosphere under FireFly. This done using SuperFly and a large box at 1000% from the primitives and then cyclessurface settings and 1 spot light on a narrow end width no FX Not sure if it is the right approach, but will explore by making a small window blind model in Silo and trying it out in close up
paul_gormley posted at 6:27AM Wed, 17 March 2021 - #4415024
Here is the result using the same setup, but with a hastily cobbled window and set of blinds in Silo; also placed an HDRI image as a background using Environment Texture. Any pointers or ideas to improve are most welcome :) again, no Post FX
Great result! ?
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Couldn't help but show this picture, rendered using Poser's Super-Fly... ?
"Feel free, like you can fly to the clouds"
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P6 JESSI GETS A SUPERFLY MAKEOVER.
P6 Jessi with P6 Jessi Strand Short Hair as is on the left and P6 Makeover Jessi with the same hair on the right. I used the Poser Superfly Basics Advanced Hair Shader for Makeover Jessi, but it still looks like she hasn't shampooed for a month.
W11,Intel i9-14900KF @ 3.20GHz, 64.0 GB RAM, 64-bit, GeForce GTX 4070 Ti SUPER, 16GB.
Old lady hobbyist.
All visual art or fiction is "playing with dolls."
VedaDalsette posted at 4:43PM Fri, 09 April 2021 - #4416596
P6 Jessi with P6 Jessi Strand Short Hair as is on the left and P6 Makeover Jessi with the same hair on the right. I used the Poser Superfly Basics Advanced Hair Shader for Makeover Jessi, but it still looks like she hasn't shampooed for a month.
Any time you use a SuperFly shader from before Poser 12 and get results that are shinier/glossier than expected, find the Roughness value (in Glossy nodes, PhysicalSurface, whatever) and replace that value with its square root. E.g. if it was 0.2, replace it with the square root of 0.2 which is 0.48.
Or you could copy Ghostship's settings which likely give better results.
It's not about the shader. The problem is old strand hair was made to accommodate old computers. They made the hair really course so they could use fewer strands and still get full coverage. What needs to be done to fix this is reduce the tip and root widths to something like .1 and .2 respectively then jack up the hair density to around to 600. Doing this only added 9 minutes to a cpu render so there is little drain on resources now. And it improves things drastically.
the shader I used still needs work. She looks like her hair's been washed but she forgot her conditioner.
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Thanks, Chromestar, hborre, and RedPhantom. I'll try these suggestions.
on edit: I just realized I can't open the compound node in P12 without crashing! I'll have to try P11.
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VedaDalsette posted at 8:57AM Sat, 10 April 2021 - #4416656
on edit: I just realized I can't open the compound node in P12 without crashing! I'll have to try P11.
The Dev Team is aware of this problem, now.
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Thanks, Y-Phil. I decided to try a different material approach. I used one of Atenais-MR-hair_54884 images. Also, I made changes in the Hair Room. There are four hair objects with this style. I changed Root Width from .8 to .4 and on the two Lites objects, I changed Tip Width from .4 to .2. Also, I increased all the densities approximately 150%.
Looks better. Kinda greasy at the roots.
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Old lady hobbyist.
All visual art or fiction is "playing with dolls."
Here's my render settings. I had already reduced the roughness from .3 to .173, per Chromestar's suggestion, but actually I wasn't altering an existing shader. I was creating it, so maybe I should have left it at the default .3.
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Old lady hobbyist.
All visual art or fiction is "playing with dolls."
Changed roughness.
Before on left, after on right. It just reduced the shine. I'd probably need to make the root width even smaller. It started at .8 and I changed it to .4 in both of the pics below.
W11,Intel i9-14900KF @ 3.20GHz, 64.0 GB RAM, 64-bit, GeForce GTX 4070 Ti SUPER, 16GB.
Old lady hobbyist.
All visual art or fiction is "playing with dolls."
Made more changes. Kept the density at 150% of original for all but the HairRight object. Changed that density from 20K to 30K (that's almost 12K hairs). Reduced all root widths to .2. Went back to .173 for roughness. Funky strands. Maybe there's a limit to this style as to how small the widths can be and how dense. I'll have to play with this. I'm not even nuts about this style. I just wanted to see how to best shade strand hair.
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Old lady hobbyist.
All visual art or fiction is "playing with dolls."
Okay, I'm done (I promise no more). I increased all root widths to .4 and tips to .2. Kept materials the same and kept the HairRight obj at 225% its orig density and kept the other 3 objs at 150% orig density. She needs a haircut and a shampoo.
W11,Intel i9-14900KF @ 3.20GHz, 64.0 GB RAM, 64-bit, GeForce GTX 4070 Ti SUPER, 16GB.
Old lady hobbyist.
All visual art or fiction is "playing with dolls."
I haven't worked with strand-based hair, but it looks very uniform to me. I'm curious whether playing with the random roughness and random color settings can help that.
The Blender docs on PrincipledHairBSDF look pretty useful here. I notice the default IOR is 1.55 vs 1.45 here apparently, not sure how much difference that makes.
The IOR probably won't make a difference with the values given. I have looked at the Blender doc on PrincipledHairBSDF and the instructions seem pretty comprehensive. Of course, there is no elaboration about the composition of the strands so we'll need to play with strand values until we hit the magic numbers.
Here's my best result with the principled hair shader. I haven't messed with it much. I'll have to play around with it more. My first impression is that it's very responsive to light and you can get very different results depending on your lighting and also the thickness of the strands, but I haven't really tested either.
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Who's the character Ohki? Is that L'Homme?
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Miss B posted at 12:43PM Tue, 13 April 2021 - #4416874
Who's the character Ohki? Is that L'Homme?
:D yup!
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Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.
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My newest LaFemme girl Debora (not released yet).
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Feel free to call me Ohki!
Poser Pro 11, Poser 12 and Poser 13, Windows 10, Superfly junkie. My units are milimeters.
Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.