Maybe I have one but I haven't gone digging through the far corners of my runtimes, does anyone have suggestions for a Ruby material for Superfly? Seems like something that is easily done with PBR materials...

I did a quick search... this is what I came up with for both Firefly and Superfly. Is it really as simple as that?

I'm seeing that the Superfly mat above is CyclesSurface. Alternatives?

Worked on this all day as a challenge ... Had some elaborate nodes ... but frankly this worked the best from what I've worked on.

Same setting for both gems. Render settings in Poser 12 include refractive and reflective caustics, 20 samples, adaptive sampling 10 and volume bounces 10.

Thanks Boni. It's better than anything I could come up with. I'm a total noob at Superfly. I appreciate your efforts here :)

I'm seeing alot of different looks for rubies, the images I posted above are stones that are rough with age so seem more opaque, I'm guessing. But the newer cut stones images I see look quite a bit like yours.

Very similar to this: https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/sofia-collection/150179

https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2016/magnificent-jewels-and-noble-jewels-ge1605/lot.330.html

I would add a fake reflection map to the stone to make it shiny. I made one for you.

Wby do you need fake reflections if you set up an environment that reflects and you have enough bounces?? Even Firefly didn't need that any more from 2014 on... confused.

"I would add a fake reflection map to the stone to make it shiny. I made one for you."

Actually it would be the specular that would make it shiny. The reflection map would make it reflect. But That's an old trick. A reflect node in Firefly does this but reflects what is actually in your scene... so it follows you need an environment to reflect. And at least one raytrace bounce as Rhia states... Besides, I was looking for a Superfly Mat. There's far less faking it tricks with physically based rendering. I've got a pretty good handle on Firefly, it's Superfly I need to work on.

I appreciate your intent though. Thanks.

LOL "Twiz, get outta here with your fake knockout rubies!"

With my fake reflection lol preview and render... the stone is smooth, rounded off, doesn't have any polished facets, gotta find a different necklace.

Well done. I'm not a hyper realism soapboxer anyway. Congats lol. I'll use a reflect node tbh. If the map method is preferable for your work than by all means. Hugs.

I will make one observation about those necklaces TwiztidKidd, rubies aside, they are very detailed. Every little tiny link perfectly natural looking. Where did you get the models? ;)

The necklace is from dforce Lea homewear outfit by Arryn, it's a does only product but I really like the way it renders in Poser. I love the Sofia collection necklace by RPublishing, it's beautifully crafted.

Here's one more: https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/dazzler/102965

Fake turquoise map lol Happy Sunday!

I'm by no means an expert, but those are some strangely cut stones.

I'm also by no means an expert but those are also some strangely non Superfly suggestions for a Superfly ruby material.

And turquoise stones look nothing like that. Take Care.

Ok, sorry. Be well.

The biggest difference between Superfly and Firefly, my opinion, is in FF specular is a hack to avoid using actual raytraced reflections because they are so slow. SF is faster so specular is actual raytraced reflection. No need for a reflect node, reflection is on by default.

Based on this example I tried to duplicate the shader, and ended up with this:

The mesh is a primitive from Lightwave and scaled to about 1cm high in Poser (I set my units to meters). One infinite light and a jpg pano for a sky.

Using the Principled BSDF is easier, if I can find my old thread I'll post examples there and link back here.

Thanks Caisson

Found my thread in case it's useful - examples of Principled BSDF here - it's ridiculously useful, and simple to set up.

That shader is great, caisson, thank you so much. Here I applied it to one of the necklaces from gcloudd's Soraya Set. EZSphere, one Sun light.

Wow. That's VERY useful. Looking at those settings options on the Principled BSDF I think I can get exactly the look I'm aiming for. I didn't realize it was that straightforward. There's all kinds of materials possible in that node.

Thanks again.

Poser 12 only. Not seeing the Principled BSDF in 11 cycles nodes.

I am seeing everything in 11 that comprises the first shader Caisson posted though, so that will suffice. I might have 12 by the time I really need the shader but no rush. Looks like you can do some pretty nice skin things with the Principled.

I know it's a bit late of a late reply but also you could have a go with Ghostship2's free P11 UberShader in freestuff ( ghostship2 shader

For this pic on the ruby part of the earrings I just plugged red into Refract Color and set the IOR to 1.78 for ruby.

That looks truly excellent raven. I have that ghostship shader (I collect things and forget I have them)... thanks for the reminder and the tips :)