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Subject: Depth Map - Z-Depth woes


ader ( ) posted Thu, 07 July 2022 at 6:47 PM · edited Sun, 24 November 2024 at 11:43 AM

Ok, so I'm trying to render a scene with a Depth Map so that I can convert it into a hologram.

I just can't get the Z-Depth option to work - the normal map and texture co-ord maps look fine but the Z-Depth map looks like a simple mask: pure black and pure white and no in-between.

I don't have a skydome, I even turned the ground object off in case that was messing with it. I simply have a V4 figure and a few lights.

I added a primitive cube in the background to see if that would change anything but nope.

My Focus distance is 5.75 so I reckon start should be zero and end should be below 10 in terms of distance (I tried using an atmosphere with depth-cue turned on to no avail also).

any ideas?

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ader ( ) posted Thu, 07 July 2022 at 6:53 PM · edited Thu, 07 July 2022 at 6:53 PM

hmm... the plot thickens, as when I render in FireFly the depth map is fine, it's just not working in SuperFly.6tN2YgNceD41taimJsp4a4ZLehYRNpOWAn9alb2k.png


Y-Phil ( ) posted Fri, 08 July 2022 at 2:01 AM · edited Fri, 08 July 2022 at 2:01 AM

Here's a superfly-based Z-depth map of a Vic4, lit by a 3 lights setup: on the right (front+back: area lights), on the left: an infinite light)

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So that lead me to ask: do you have a spot/point light with no attenuation?

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ader ( ) posted Fri, 08 July 2022 at 11:22 AM

I had 2 infinite lights and an IBL light, no spot or point lights.

So I decided to delete all the lights and create one single light.

I tried all the different light types with SuperFly and got the same result = no z-depth map (or rather it was always like a mask with no depth information).

I then tried all the same light types using FireFly and got a z-depth map every single time.

I'm on Mac using Poser 12.0.757 so maybe it's a Mac bug... 





hborre ( ) posted Fri, 08 July 2022 at 12:25 PM

Superfly ignores Image-Based Lighting and DepthCue according to the manual.  


ader ( ) posted Sun, 10 July 2022 at 10:14 AM

Bug report sent, for now I will use the FireFly z-Depth map.


nerd ( ) posted Tue, 12 July 2022 at 4:34 PM
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@ader Could you attach the scene exhibiting this problem to the bug report.


ader ( ) posted Wed, 13 July 2022 at 4:38 AM

@nerd, just done that, thanks.

I had already emailed the files in reply to your email but maybe you don't get the replies.



nerd ( ) posted Wed, 13 July 2022 at 9:48 PM
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OK I get it now. It's a Cycles bug (feature?) if there's nothing in the background Cycles/SuperFly treats is as bring at infinity. Which blows out any visible queuing between objects with any object less than 1/255th of infinite distance ... with is of course still infinite.FireFly just ignores the background if there's no geometry there.

I've filed a bug report. For the meantime if you make sure the background it totally covered with anything, a scaled up square plane will do, that will make it work.

P.S. If you reply to the bug email I don't actually get those (probably so mail filter someplace). It's better to respond to the actual bug report. Them I'm sure to get it.


ader ( ) posted Thu, 14 July 2022 at 9:25 AM

Cheers, I’ll check that out, will be useful being able to just render once, especially on some hologram animations I’m trying out for my Looking Glass Portrait :) 


NikKelly ( ) posted Sun, 04 September 2022 at 7:07 AM

Thank you for solving this !  I've learned something new today !!


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