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Subject: Problem with creation of a new character


helderres ( ) posted Tue, 06 September 2022 at 11:39 AM · edited Fri, 24 January 2025 at 12:48 AM

Friends, I'm new user of Poser and wish I could create my own characters. However, I'm having a lot of difficulties.

One is to create and edit the "rsr" files. Someone can help me.

And can someone help me with a tutorial on how to create my own characters???


hborre ( ) posted Tue, 06 September 2022 at 12:21 PM

RSR files are no longer used in Poser so there is really no need to create or use them.  You have legacy models in Poser that you can use and modify through morphs to create your own characters.  But if you are interested in creating your own from scratch, then you need other applications like Blender (Freeware) for such endeavors.  You will need to be very specific about your intentions because Poser is not really a model-creation program.


nerd ( ) posted Tue, 06 September 2022 at 5:35 PM
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RSR files are no longer used by Poser. The RSR was a proprietary format used by poser for thumbnails. It's no longer supported. PNG files are used for thumbnails in poser starting with version 5.

As for tutorials each of these steps below would each constitute a tutorial of it's own. I've covered this process in webinars. They're probably posted someplace on YouTube.

As with all things Poser there are many ways to do whatever you're trying to do. Here's a rough outline of four figure creation techniques in Poser

=== The Modern Way ===

1. Model the figure in an external modeler such as Blender. (The Sculpt)

2. Export the OBJ at Poser scale which is much smaller than Blender. 400:1 or so.

3. Import the OBJ into Poser

4. Take the figure into the Setup Room

5. Load a skeleton that's similar in dimensions to your new figure

6. Adjust bones' positions as necessary. Add or remove bones as needed. (Rigging)

7. In Pose room edit weight mapping to achieve proper bending (Weight Mapping)

=== Slightly Old School ===

1. Sculpt the model as above

2. In the Model define all the body part groups using the Poser naming scheme which is WEIRD. (Cutting up the figure)

3. Import the grouped OBJ into Poser

4. Spawn props from the OBJ with the grouping tool

5. Use the Hierarchy Editor and [Apply Standard Hierarchy] and then [Apply standard rotations]

6. [Create New Figure] on the Hierarchy editor

7. The figure is created in the "New Figures" folder of the library.

8. Load the "New Figure" and adjust the joints with the Joint editor as needed

=== Really Old School Method ===

This method does not work for weight mapped figures

1. Sculpt and group the OBJ as with the slightly old school method. The shape needs to be vary close to the "donor figure"

2. In a text editor open the figure's CR2 file.

3. Edit the 2 OBJ references to point to your newly created OBJ. (Hacking the CR2)

4. Open the newly hacked figure file in Poser and adjust joint as necessary

=== The Old Timers Might Remember This One ===

Does not create weight mapped figures

1. Find a copy of PHIBuild.exe (Good luck)

2. Use Phi Builder to create a PHI file for your figure.

3. In Poser File > Import Heir File ..

4. Adjust the joints on the created figure.

These are rough outlines there's way more to rigging a character. The easiest way is the modern way.


helderres ( ) posted Tue, 06 September 2022 at 5:50 PM

I really appreciate the friends hborre and nerd  who gave me the valuable tips. Mainly to nerd by tutorial. I realized that I'm pretty lost and outdated from what I was thinking initially. Thanks to you, I'm going to be able to walk the right path now. Thank you both very much.


nerd ( ) posted Tue, 06 September 2022 at 5:56 PM · edited Tue, 06 September 2022 at 5:56 PM
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Here's a Setup Room Tutorial covering clothing. The concepts are the same for a full figure:

https://www.renderosity.com/premium-tutorials/133/setup-room

Weight Mapping

https://www.renderosity.com/premium-tutorials/137/la-femme-weight-mapping



Y-Phil ( ) posted Wed, 07 September 2022 at 8:08 AM

And just in case: you may convert RSR to PNG thanks to this tools, provided by Dizzi.

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Miss B ( ) posted Wed, 07 September 2022 at 10:29 AM
nerd posted at 5:56 PM Tue, 6 September 2022 - #4444045

Here's a Setup Room Tutorial covering clothing. The concepts are the same for a full figure:

https://www.renderosity.com/premium-tutorials/133/setup-room

Weight Mapping

https://www.renderosity.com/premium-tutorials/137/la-femme-weight-mapping

Thanks Chuck, as these are two things I've never tried.  🙂


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Miss B ( ) posted Wed, 07 September 2022 at 10:33 AM
Y-Phil posted at 8:08 AM Wed, 7 September 2022 - #4444064

And just in case: you may convert RSR to PNG thanks to this tools, provided by Dizzi.

Oh, good to know.  I've used Yarp's free P3DO over the years for converting RSR to PNG format.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Wed, 07 September 2022 at 2:46 PM · edited Wed, 07 September 2022 at 2:46 PM

And I forgot to explain that it's recursive: launch it at the root of a runtime, grab of coffee/tee, put your feet on the desk and... voila 😄

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Miss B ( ) posted Wed, 07 September 2022 at 5:36 PM · edited Wed, 07 September 2022 at 5:37 PM

Ohhhh, that recursive feature is nice.  I don't think I've ever had that issue, but it's certainly good to know.

Of course now-a-days I rarely use anything old enough to have RSR files for thumbnails, but you never know when you'll need to reinstall an older product on a new computer, so it can still come in handy.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 08 September 2022 at 1:27 AM · edited Thu, 08 September 2022 at 1:28 AM

Miss B posted at 5:36 PM Wed, 7 September 2022 - #4444098

Ohhhh, that recursive feature is nice.  I don't think I've ever had that issue, but it's certainly good to know.

Of course now-a-days I rarely use anything old enough to have RSR files for thumbnails, but you never know when you'll need to reinstall an older product on a new computer, so it can still come in handy.

Now that you wrote that, I launched my "Everything" program and asked it to search for *.rsr: 26727 files, almost all of them in my old poser7 runtime....

😁

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hborre ( ) posted Thu, 08 September 2022 at 8:42 AM

Does that program delete the old RSR files?  I seem to recall that it is not as thorough in cleaning up files afterward.  That's why I use P3DO, it removes all converted RSR files.


Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 08 September 2022 at 3:22 PM
hborre posted at 8:42 AM Thu, 8 September 2022 - #4444119

Does that program delete the old RSR files?  I seem to recall that it is not as thorough in cleaning up files afterward.  That's why I use P3DO, it removes all converted RSR files.

No the RSR files remain. But as I'm using "Everything", deleting all RSR in a complete hierarchy is a matter of seconds

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👿 Nas 10TB
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ThunderStone ( ) posted Fri, 09 September 2022 at 11:57 AM
Y-Phil posted at 3:22 PM Thu, 8 September 2022 - #4444140
hborre posted at 8:42 AM Thu, 8 September 2022 - #4444119

Does that program delete the old RSR files?  I seem to recall that it is not as thorough in cleaning up files afterward.  That's why I use P3DO, it removes all converted RSR files.

No the RSR files remain. But as I'm using "Everything", deleting all RSR in a complete hierarchy is a matter of seconds
Where does one find this  "Everything " app? Sounds intriguing.  Does it work in windows? 


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Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

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hborre ( ) posted Fri, 09 September 2022 at 12:57 PM
Y-Phil ( ) posted Sat, 10 September 2022 at 3:22 AM · edited Sat, 10 September 2022 at 3:22 AM
ThunderStone posted at 11:57 AM Fri, 9 September 2022 - #4444185
Y-Phil posted at 3:22 PM Thu, 8 September 2022 - #4444140
hborre posted at 8:42 AM Thu, 8 September 2022 - #4444119

Does that program delete the old RSR files?  I seem to recall that it is not as thorough in cleaning up files afterward.  That's why I use P3DO, it removes all converted RSR files.

No the RSR files remain. But as I'm using "Everything", deleting all RSR in a complete hierarchy is a matter of seconds
Where does one find this  "Everything " app? Sounds intriguing.  Does it work in windows? 
What's astonishing with "Everything": it finds files as fast as you can type... 😄

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👿 Nas 10TB
👿 Poser 13 and soon 14 ❤️


hborre ( ) posted Sat, 10 September 2022 at 9:38 AM

Be very careful with deleting RSR files; they are sometimes associated with a different function and can't be converted.  BVH is one individual that uses a modified RSRs for his thumbnails and there is a Laura character that uses that same method.


ThunderStone ( ) posted Sat, 10 September 2022 at 10:20 AM

Thanks for the link and information. I'll check it out.


===========================================================

OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

9/11/2001: Never forget...

Smiles are contagious... Pass it on!

Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 


helderres ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2022 at 5:11 PM

Tanks for everybody! I learn many things with you.


Miss B ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2022 at 5:47 PM
hborre posted at 12:57 PM Fri, 9 September 2022 - #4444188

https://www.voidtools.com/downloads/

Works on Windows

Thanks for the link @hborre, as I didn't know about this goodie.  😉

_______________

OK . . . Where's my chocolate?

Butterfly Dezignz


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