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Subject: A Couple Questions..


DCArt ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 6:11 AM

On some of the stated points, I agree. If you think things have changed since 2009, it's even much different than in 2000 when I first joined. Back then there was no marketplaces. We all learned how to do things and experiment together, and things got shared in free stuff. That inspired people to learn more, and to do more. Definitely more of a team spirit.  

There is still that, to some degree, but not as much as back in the early days. Nowadays, you can find most anything in the store and purchase products that do those things for you.  So there isn't as much learning or collaboration.

On the gallery flooding, I have my frustrations as well on the amount of repetition, and I have my "pet peeve" list as well. LOL 

it's a start to allow multiple images in a single post (like multiple renders of the same character, for example), but to that I would also suggest allowing it to be assigned to multiple genres.  People AND Portraits AND Realism, for example. Instead of having to post in all three categories (because you don't know which one gets viewed most), you have one gallery thumbnail in What's New instead of three. 

With these two things in place (multiple images in multiple genres), you might be able to limit the number of posts to one per day. Or maybe even three. 



Giana ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 12:45 PM

to your point, Denise, this is why some folks i think do not understand why limiting the number of posts a day is a dead horse.

if i am limited to say 5 posts a day, i can still post at the very least 25+ images within those 5 posts BECAUSE of that lovely multi-image gallery option, so how would limiting me actually be limiting?


RodS ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 1:50 PM

Hi, Giana..

With that option not all 25 images would show up as thumbnails in the gallery. Just 5. All 25 would be there, still. I really like that multi image option - I've even used it a few times. 😊

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EVargas ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 2:14 PM

I agree with RodS, the multi image has its uses. There are cases where one wants to add a behind the scenes or render settings for example.

Also, the "Activity Feed" is a bless, I wish it has a grid layout similar to the galleries, like thumbnails side by side.


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Wolfenshire ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 2:22 PM · edited Sun, 22 January 2023 at 2:28 PM
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About the dead horse: Remember when you were a kid, and your mom said you could have two cookies, but you wanted four cookies, and so you argued and pestered her until your two cookies turned into zero cookies, and you found yourself sitting on the curb eating a piece of celery thinly smeared with peanut butter - and not the good peanut butter, the greasy, oily, store-brand peanut butter mom got on sale for $1.50. Yeah, it's like that. Instead of arguing about the two cookies that weren't going to turn into four cookies, you should have been arguing for a tall glass of Kool-Aid to wash your cookies down - but now all you got is a mouthful of sticky peanut butter, a nasty piece of celery, and the gross metallic-tasting water from the garden hose to wash down your disgusting snack.


The only problem I have with the multi-upload feature is there is only one description box for all the included images.



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RodS ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 2:36 PM

Ewww...

I do sometimes use that multi-image option for a BTS, or progress image.

Now, I'm gonna go dip my cookie in a nice cuppa java.. And do some writing / rendering... 😉

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage


Giana ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 2:40 PM · edited Sun, 22 January 2023 at 2:40 PM

@Rod

i guess i must be missing something here.  i know that not all 25 images would  generate 25 thumbs, but i'm not sure why that matters?


@Wolf

it's not that i don't understand the unmovable cement wall... i guess what i'm alluding to is that people have said that a lot of images these days look the same, just variations of a theme, i guess [that's if i understood it correctly].  and we have a multi-post option that maybe is under-utilised[?].  so truly my thought was if i just NEED to post a lot of images in one day, but i'm limited to how many posts per day, that Rendo has still provided me with a tool i can use to fulfill my need...

honestly, it was more just an observation/comment, and not taking another swing with my studded bat at the pretty pony...

here - have an apple instead ;)


Wolfenshire ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 2:57 PM · edited Sun, 22 January 2023 at 3:51 PM
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BTW - several suggestions from the report I submitted were chosen to be implemented. We'll give you details when we can. We don't want to announce something early, and then something happen where we can't do it, and everyone starts yelling, 'but you promised'. So, details when it becomes appropriate.


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RodS ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 3:10 PM

Speaking of TOS...... You might have a quick peek at a few "new images..." Whoooooo-eeeeeeee....." 😲😜


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Wolfenshire ( ) posted Sun, 22 January 2023 at 3:25 PM
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@Rods The New Art Gallery Mod is already going through them.


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hborre ( ) posted Mon, 23 January 2023 at 12:11 AM

Things are now getting out of hand in the gallery now.

https://www.renderosity.com/users/enxo69/gallery


RodS ( ) posted Mon, 23 January 2023 at 1:06 AM

Really.... Someone needs a lesson on the difference between art and porn.... 😒

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage


Wolfenshire ( ) posted Mon, 23 January 2023 at 4:46 AM
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We saw the images. It's in the process of being dealt with. Thank you to everyone that promptly reported the incidents. If it happens again, let one of the Mods know by sitemail right away, or use the report image button. (sitemail is the fastest way to get our attention). Thanks again, everyone.


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RodS ( ) posted Mon, 23 January 2023 at 12:21 PM

Will do. You're most welcome, Wolf! 👍👍

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Giana ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2023 at 3:59 PM

someone just told me this, and i've just tested it myself, so i can confirm...

did you know that if you turn on your Nudity filter in your gallery preferences that it will even filter out your own artwork so you're unable to view it?

is there a way to make the filter exclude the user him/herself?


Wolfenshire ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2023 at 4:41 PM
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@giana

I'll pass that on, thanks.


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Wolfenshire ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2023 at 4:48 PM · edited Thu, 26 January 2023 at 4:50 PM
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@giana

They have a question for you:

They cant view it their own gallery?


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RodS ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2023 at 4:53 PM

Not only that, but it knocks your contest entries out if you tick that nudity thing, and your entry is right on the line..... Right, Wolf? 🤣😂😆

Good one, Giana! 👍


"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage


Giana ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2023 at 4:57 PM

@Wolf

the former... i have 1 image in my gallery that has flagged nudity.  if i turn on the gallery filter that essentially turns off visibility of gallery nudity, my own image disappears for me along with all other flagged nudity...


Giana ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2023 at 5:00 PM

ugh.. dunno quite what you're asking regarding the second scenario... but i'm assuming that turning off nudity period for the galleries means, as of now, ALL nudity regardless of origin... think it's simply all encompassing and omnipresent


Wolfenshire ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2023 at 5:02 PM
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@Rods Images in the contests that would require a content advisory can't be used, because we don't have the ability to place a content advisory on a contest image.


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Giana ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2023 at 5:11 PM · edited Thu, 26 January 2023 at 5:11 PM

actually, i tell a lie... there is inconsistencies in regards to activity feed... you will always see nudity there as that has never been properly filtered from the start, fyi...

just tested it for that specifically, and these are the steps i took:

found a pic in the galleries w. nudity...

changed my profile to end seeing nudity...

went to the activity feed of the person w. the nude image...

viewing nudity on activity feed since gallery options don't prevail in that area of the site...


hope this makes sense


RodS ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2023 at 5:40 PM

Actually, I was just giving Wolf a little good-natured rib poking... 😆

But yeah, I didn't think about that when I ticked the nudity box when I uploaded it to the gallery. My bad! LOL

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage


CHMedia ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2023 at 9:13 AM

If you are testing please make sure you clear your cache after you toggle a feature. The browser may have the image cached.


Giana ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2023 at 11:08 AM · edited Fri, 27 January 2023 at 11:08 AM

Content Advisory! This message contains nudity

not a cache issue in terms of the Activity Feed...

steps taken:

logged in

found a random nude image

went to person's activity feed and bookmarked page

logged out

cleared cache

closed browser

opened browser

used bookmark without logging into the site at all

my results are captured below, and as you can see nudity is quite visible there.  it's been this way from the start of the whole activity feed.

if i am logged out and IN the galleries, the nudes won't show, same as having the filter on in my prefs; however, Activity Feed does not follow the same rules - you still see whatever thumb was made for the galleries without any alert that there is nudity if the thumb itself is devoid of nudity.  i'd assume it's the same for any of the gallery flagging features.. shrug...


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CHMedia ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2023 at 2:14 PM

"went to person's activity feed and bookmarked page"

If you use the direct link you will still be able to view it.


Giana ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2023 at 3:55 PM · edited Fri, 27 January 2023 at 4:02 PM

that is my point... glad you understand...

but just in case:

if i use no gallery filter for nudity, i see all nudity everywhere WHEN I AM LOGGED IN

if i turn the nudity filter on for the galleries, i see no nudity period EXCEPT in the activity feed WHEN I"M LOGGED IN

if i view things WHEN I"M LOGGED OUT, i still see nudity on activity feed, meaning no flags carry over to the activity feed area...

better yet, try this scenario...

i am a casual viewer of the site, maybe a member, maybe not. i am browsing not logged into the site, and i am at work.  i see an image and am wanting to know more about the artist, so i hit that Profile link above the image i'm looking at [which has no nudity because i'm logged out and i can still see the image]

so, i've hit the profile link, which takes me to the page where the Activity Feed is, and suddenly, unwittingly, i'm at work looking at NSFW images.

which really sucks cause i'm actually on my lunch break, eating at my desk, etc., but my boss just happens to be walking by behind me and sees what's on my phone. whoopsie... 


or the scenario could involve a younger person who is browsing the net, or a whole host of various circumstances - i mean pick your poison, so to speak


btw, i'm not complaining or finding fault. i personally have no monkey in this particular circus.  i'm just trying to be helpful in the sense that this site has a ToS, has flags to filter out nudity, or violence, has Mods to enforce said ToS, etc., so it gives me the impression that Bondware is trying to be extremely user-friendly, and maybe even protecting its viewership/potential members/whoever, esp. when not logged in, and maybe when logged in as well.  i'm just simply pointing out an area on the site that may, or may not, depending upon who you ask, seem a bit inconsistent...

change it or don't... shrug


edited to add: honestly i was just trying to answer Wolf's questions as thoroughly as i could


Wolfenshire ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2023 at 6:17 PM
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@giana

You're awesome and thorough, but I'm so confused now I don't remember the question... this is one of those 'who's on 2nd' things.


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Giana ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2023 at 6:39 PM · edited Fri, 27 January 2023 at 6:40 PM

@Wolf

to be fair, you did not ask the question directly...

you said that TPTB had a question regarding how the nudity flag operates for the end user within the galleries, which i answered, but [I] was of the mind that maybe said PTB might also want to know about how flags, nudity/violence/etc. work across the site since the activity feed is directly, uh, fed via the galleries...

maybe they didn't want to know, or already know, or do, in fact, want to know... regardless, to be clear, it was me who opened the worm-can, not you... my bad

here, have another apple - wormless, btw... they're good for you :))


Wolfenshire ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2023 at 9:56 PM · edited Fri, 27 January 2023 at 11:23 PM
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@Giana

Oh, I see now. So, that's how this got on the subject of flags. No, I was only clarifying why an image that would require a content advisory (the nudity, violence, or language tag) can't be submitted into the contest. It was a conversation that had bled over from sitemail when Rods brought it up here. I was only clarifying the answer I'd already sent in a sitemail because since Rods mentioned it again here, I thought perhaps he hadn't understood my sitemail answer.

However, you did discover some interesting things that will be passed to the devs. Good looking out.


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RodS ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2023 at 10:09 PM

Naw, I understood what you were saying, Wolf. I just wanted to give you a little poke in the ribs, bud. I know you don't get enough of that around here.... 🤣 I did make her change her nightie, and sent her back to the contest. She didn't want to change, but I told her I'd buy her a new nightie if I won. LOL

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage


Wolfenshire ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2023 at 10:15 PM
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@Rods

I saw it, all is good.


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RodS ( ) posted Sun, 29 January 2023 at 5:50 PM

Quick question...

In browsing the forums, I've run into several banners informing me "Heads Up! This user's messages are blocked from your view." These are from one particular person (I think you know who). It doesn't bother me, particularly, but I cannot find a setting to do this so I can return the favor, so to speak. Where might that setting be hiding? 😉

Thanks!

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DCArt ( ) posted Sun, 29 January 2023 at 7:00 PM

Buttons at bottom of each post. Select a post by the user you want to ignore, and click this button here:

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RodS ( ) posted Sun, 29 January 2023 at 8:46 PM

OK! Thank you muchly! Never used it for over 12 years, but now I have someone being a jackass so....... First time for everything I guess..

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RodS ( ) posted Sun, 29 January 2023 at 8:54 PM

Nope. Didn't work. He has me locked out of anything he posts in the forums ("Heads Up! This user's messages are blocked from your view.") so I can't select a message from him to get the buttons at the bottom.. I want to block him from my messages as well.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage


Crystalis ( ) posted Sun, 29 January 2023 at 9:50 PM
DCArt posted at 7:00 PM Sun, 29 January 2023 - #4454901

Buttons at bottom of each post. Select a post by the user you want to ignore, and click this button here:

uj3nKyagSnkgcLvBCEFM3UVccmxnHBSTlCyHRsXe.png

I can never figure out why a vendor from RMP would recommend this to someone . . . WOW!!!


RedPhantom ( ) posted Sun, 29 January 2023 at 10:11 PM
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Crystalis posted at 9:50 PM Sun, 29 January 2023 - #4454911
DCArt posted at 7:00 PM Sun, 29 January 2023 - #4454901

Buttons at bottom of each post. Select a post by the user you want to ignore, and click this button here:


I can never figure out why a vendor from RMP would recommend this to someone . . . WOW!!!
No one was suggesting it. They were only explaining it since someone else had used it. 


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Darkglass ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 5:51 AM
RodS posted at 8:54 PM Sun, 29 January 2023 - #4454908

Nope. Didn't work. He has me locked out of anything he posts in the forums ("Heads Up! This user's messages are blocked from your view.") so I can't select a message from him to get the buttons at the bottom.. I want to block him from my messages as well.

It works both ways. If this individual has blocked you, you can't see there posts and they can't see your posts either. So you don't need to do the same, obviously if your off line you can read everything, only when your login will the block apply 


DCArt ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 5:57 AM · edited Mon, 30 January 2023 at 6:06 AM

RedPhantom posted at 10:11 PM Sun, 29 January 2023 - #4454913

Crystalis posted at 9:50 PM Sun, 29 January 2023 - #4454911
DCArt posted at 7:00 PM Sun, 29 January 2023 - #4454901

Buttons at bottom of each post. Select a post by the user you want to ignore, and click this button here:

uj3nKyagSnkgcLvBCEFM3UVccmxnHBSTlCyHRsXe.png

I can never figure out why a vendor from RMP would recommend this to someone . . . WOW!!!
No one was suggesting it. They were only explaining it since someone else had used it. 
Correct. 8-)

And for the record, it's very easy to click that button by mistake, so if you can't figure out why you're getting that message it may be you accidentally hit it. In that case you click that same button to "un ignore"



hborre ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 7:09 AM

But this is not a commonly known feature.  Right now, I'm on 2 individuals' s__tlist for no reason that I can think of.


DCArt ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 7:19 AM · edited Mon, 30 January 2023 at 7:23 AM
hborre posted at 7:09 AM Mon, 30 January 2023 - #4454922

But this is not a commonly known feature.  Right now, I'm on 2 individuals' s__tlist for no reason that I can think of.

Yeah, like I said, it's really easy to click that button by mistake. That's initially how I found out where it was, because I accidentally clicked it once. All of a sudden I saw blue bars and couldn't figure out where they came from. LOL



Wolfenshire ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 8:03 AM
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I don't have that button on my screen, so can't experiment with it. Are you saying you don't get any kind of warning/confirmation dialog when you push it? If so, I can pass that on to the devs, because that seems like something that should be added.


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DCArt ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 8:12 AM

Wolfenshire posted at 8:03 AM Mon, 30 January 2023 - #4454925

I don't have that button on my screen, so can't experiment with it. Are you saying you don't get any kind of warning/confirmation dialog when you push it? If so, I can pass that on to the devs, because that seems like something that should be added.

Here's what happens in my case.

Sometimes if I'm not sure how to answer a question re Poser, I click the third button (Copy Link) and send the link to someone on the dev team or whatever. But I miss and click the fourth button (Ignore User). I just tried to test it on you but you have POWER, you can't be ignored LOL

So I temporarily tried it on someone else. And no, there is no warning. You just get a message that you have successfully ignored the user. There is a link in that blue bar to "unignore the user" 



Wolfenshire ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 8:26 AM
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So a confirmation box that pops up to cancel unintentional presses of the button would be useful.


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DCArt ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 8:30 AM · edited Mon, 30 January 2023 at 8:32 AM

Wolfenshire posted at 8:26 AM Mon, 30 January 2023 - #4454928

So a confirmation box that pops up to cancel unintentional presses of the button would be useful.

Yeah, but maybe a little more than that. Because I wasn't aware until this came up that it hides YOUR posts from the other user also. So how about this?

"Ignoring a user will hide all posts from that user in the forums. The user will also not be able to see your posts. Do you want to continue"?  And then click Yes or OK, or Cancel. 



Wolfenshire ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 8:55 AM
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Okay, a better explanation in the confirmation box. Got it. I'll pass it on.


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antony1 ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 11:18 AM · edited Mon, 30 January 2023 at 11:19 AM

"I don't want you to see my arguments, opinions or thoughts in a discussion and I don't wanna see yours". It feels like being in a kindergarten. 


Wolfenshire ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 12:26 PM
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It's no different from any other social media site with a block feature. If a person is trolling, being a nuisance, or intentionally trying to derail a subject, but not necessarily breaking the tos, and we have plenty of those, you block them - you have no obligation to listen to them. They can still talk, you just don't want to hear whatever they're saying, and for many reasons. They have a right to free speech, and I have a right not to hear it.


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antony1 ( ) posted Mon, 30 January 2023 at 12:55 PM

@Wolfenshire, you are right, but it is still sad.


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