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Subject: Importing Runtime Libraries


Digitell ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 5:41 PM · edited Sat, 04 January 2025 at 2:47 PM

I think I read somewhere that the file structure is different with Poser13.

If this is so, how do we import our runtime libraries? Do we need to recreate our libraries to match the current file structure?

Or is it possible to just import the runtime as we have previously done?




Rhia474 ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 5:45 PM

Um, it's literally nothing else but running the script under Utilities that says 'import libraries' or something like that. It is an one click, just have to specify it is from under P12 if you have that, or P11 if you had that. It imports *everything* you linked there, with one click. It's fabulous.


Digitell ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 5:51 PM

Thank you Rhia for chiming in! :) This helps :)

When installing, does it require you uninstall Poser 12? Or can  you install it and keep  your Poser 12?




hborre ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 6:37 PM

You can keep P12 installed.  P13 installs into a different folder.


Rhia474 ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 6:40 PM

Yup, it's a thing of beauty. Saved me an hour of manually connecting old runtimes like every time before.


Digitell ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 6:54 PM

Thanks so much you guys!




cabled ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 7:53 PM

If I have extensively reorganized my runtimes, does the script it keep it that way, or put it back into a Poser "default"?  Or just lose track of a bunch of stuff (let's hope not)?


hborre ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 8:05 PM

All the script does is import the runtimes folders as you have them set up in the previous versions of Poser.  It will not rearrange anything or undo any custom setup you already have.


Rhia474 ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 8:32 PM

It just imports the runtime the way they are. It will look like It did in P12. That's all.


hornet3d ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 9:14 PM
Rhia474 posted at 8:32 PM Sat, 1 April 2023 - #4460418

It just imports the runtime the way they are. It will look like It did in P12. That's all.

Correct but the library will also show a downloads and a purchases runtimes and under the Purchases tab you have an  included tab along with Renerosity and Poser software tabs.  All of the additional content is under the included tab so you have the choice of installing from here or downloading the content vis the zips available to add them manually.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.


Rhia474 ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 9:52 PM

Right, but that was the same with P12. I always install manually after downloading because that gives me the flex to install to the right category like (in my case, for instance) 'Props', Architecture', 'La Femme', 'Nature' or whatever other runtime customization one has. I don't use Purchases or Included.


hornet3d ( ) posted Sat, 01 April 2023 at 10:46 PM

Rhia474 posted at 9:52 PM Sat, 1 April 2023 - #4460429

Right, but that was the same with P12. I always install manually after downloading because that gives me the flex to install to the right category like (in my case, for instance) 'Props', Architecture', 'La Femme', 'Nature' or whatever other runtime customization one has. I don't use Purchases or Included.

As I understand it, and I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong, any changes to the runtime structure would only be apparent if you installed the content from the included tab which would then install it in the Poser 13 content folder.

That would not suit me as I have a similar runtime set up to you and I also manually install from the downloaded zips.  Using the script to find previous runtimes add then in the same manner as they were in the previous Poser version, it even keeps the same order.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.


Richard60 ( ) posted Sun, 02 April 2023 at 11:59 AM

Poser 11, 12 & 13 All have a folder setup that says Poser XX Content.  Where you place that folder is up to you.  Me, I have my setup to be E:Poser Content: Poser XX Content.  All my external runtimes are located in E:Poser Content folder so I know where they are.  The ONLY thing that is added to Poser XX Content is the required content to make Poser work and that would be in Poser XX Content:Runtime. Then you have Downloads, Included and Purchases.  Those are folders that sit next to the Runtime folder and inside each of them is their proper Runtime folder where the content lives.  IF you don't want to use the included or Purchases folders that is up to you.  I use them to download content and move it to another location.  And that location is a Runtime that is NOT Poser XX Content, Purchases, Included or Downloads.  However doing testing on Poser I tend to leave the Included content where it is to be more like a first time user would experience.  

Poser's indexing on the  content libraries is fast enough now that moving content from runtime to runtime is not painful and the search function will be updated before I close out of a session.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Sun, 02 April 2023 at 12:17 PM

Richard60 posted at 11:59 AM Sun, 2 April 2023 - #4460509

Poser 11, 12 & 13 All have a folder setup that says Poser XX Content.  Where you place that folder is up to you.  Me, I have my setup to be E:Poser Content: Poser XX Content.  All my external runtimes are located in E:Poser Content folder so I know where they are.  The ONLY thing that is added to Poser XX Content is the required content to make Poser work and that would be in Poser XX Content:Runtime. Then you have Downloads, Included and Purchases.  Those are folders that sit next to the Runtime folder and inside each of them is their proper Runtime folder where the content lives.  IF you don't want to use the included or Purchases folders that is up to you.  I use them to download content and move it to another location.  And that location is a Runtime that is NOT Poser XX Content, Purchases, Included or Downloads.  However doing testing on Poser I tend to leave the Included content where it is to be more like a first time user would experience.  

Poser's indexing on the  content libraries is fast enough now that moving content from runtime to runtime is not painful and the search function will be updated before I close out of a session.

And the next step is to add "hard link" to the current "Poser XX Content: runtime : libraries : Collections" folder, so that it appears under the "Favorites" tab of the library manager, without having to copy what's inside

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Richard60 ( ) posted Sun, 02 April 2023 at 12:53 PM

While that would be nice it does come with a security issue that I don't think any program maker wants to responsible for.  While it is easy to setup a hard link in business use cases it is not permitted for regular users because to does pose a security problem.  I am not sure I would want to be responsible when someone deleted a file from favorites and found out they removed from the original location also.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Sun, 02 April 2023 at 1:09 PM
Richard60 posted at 12:53 PM Sun, 2 April 2023 - #4460518

While that would be nice it does come with a security issue that I don't think any program maker wants to responsible for.  While it is easy to setup a hard link in business use cases it is not permitted for regular users because to does pose a security problem.  I am not sure I would want to be responsible when someone deleted a file from favorites and found out they removed from the original location also.

I understand but the use of hard link here, in the specific case of Poser is to have, for example your material settings, in one place, but they add a convenient way to retrieve them form another location: the favorites tab

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Boni ( ) posted Tue, 04 April 2023 at 6:59 PM

Honestly this is a selling feature to be able to bring in the runtimes from P12 in one click (Poser 13 has to shut down and you have to restart it ... but no be deal)  Wow. 

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Rhia474 ( ) posted Tue, 04 April 2023 at 7:16 PM

I agree, Boni, this should be hyped a bit more.


TasiaDavin ( ) posted Fri, 19 May 2023 at 4:02 PM

Along these lines... I am an OLD Poser user... I skipped the growing pains of 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12.. so my runtimes are kind of a mess and Poser 13 just laughs at me when trying to import them.   So I will need to sort out every one with the proper folders now. 

Also, do people use the Collections and Other folders for anything?


Thanks a bunch in advance!


RedPhantom ( ) posted Fri, 19 May 2023 at 4:36 PM
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Collections is where your favorites are stored. If you have something you use a lot, you can select it in the library and hit the star at the bottom to add it to your favorites. Then whenever you want it, you can hit the favorites tab on the library and have access to it.


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Y-Phil ( ) posted Fri, 19 May 2023 at 5:02 PM

And you can use the "hard links" technic to add direct links to your favorite folders

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TasiaDavin ( ) posted Fri, 19 May 2023 at 5:35 PM

Ah.. some of the mud clears! :)  Thank you!


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