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Subject: DSON Importer not creating PMD files - Please Help


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 9:46 AM · edited Thu, 02 January 2025 at 9:10 PM

I am consistently having a problem using Poser 11 Pro 11.2 with the DSON Importer. This is on a Win 10 computer and Win 11 laptop.

Any character I import using the DSON Importer pops up a search for a non-existing .PMD file. The DSON created .CR2 calls for a .PMD file, and it is simply not created. I have done full computer searches for the exact .PMD file name, and the .PMD file is never found. I do not believe this is a writable folder issue, or improper output path, as the new CR2 and geometry files are there, just no .PMD. This is for any character or morphing prop I try to import.

I have seen through GOOGLE searches that others had this problem, yet, I have never seen a valid solution. 

Is there any way to get the importer to include the morph data in the .CR2 instead of using the .PMD?

I have even reinstalled my Poser Pro 2014 to test this, with the same effect. The importer doesn't create the .PMDs with 2014 either.

This leaves me unable to use any DS content, and I simply can't deal with Daz Studio.

Thanks for any help proposed.


hborre ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 10:29 AM

I never encountered this problem in all my years using DSON.  Have you tried changing your presences to not save .PMD in P11?  It may not have an affect but it’s worth a try. 


bdpoppa ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 10:35 AM

I simply hit "cancel" when it looks for the PMD file.  After it loads, I save the figure or object in a folder of my own and it no longer looks for the PMD.  If you are converting G3 and G8 figures be sure to use "Poser Updater".



jerbear64429 ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 2:01 PM

@hborre and @bdpoppa,

Thank you for your replies.

I have the .PMD unchecked in P11. 

I also hit cancel, the character loads fully textured, but posing is impossible because the joint zones aren't correct or something. The joints don't actually bend, parts move, but they just stretch out of bounds.


hborre ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 2:22 PM

Which version of Genesis are you importing?


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 2:33 PM

This isn't with Genesis, this is with all DS characters and props. Does the Importer only work with Genesis X, or with all newer DS content? My Genesis stuff other than Genesis 3 and 8 have poser Companion files. I also have Dimension3d XL manager. What I am working on now is the DAZ Tyrannosaurus Rex. I have tried others in .DUF and nothing comes out right.



jerbear64429 ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 2:40 PM
I purchased DS content intent on using Daz Studio, but I just can't get used to it.


hborre ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 3:49 PM

Which T-rex version are you trying to import?  The basic problem with other Daz characters is the absence of a PCF unless the model is older and has a separate Poser core installer.  Otherwise, your approach to exporting a DAZ model is creating a PCF that can be transferred through DSON, but there is no guarantee that the process will translate into a 100% poseable figure.  You can try following the Genesis 3 & 8 Poser Updater instructions for generating hair and clothing which might generate a Poser-friendly figure.


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 3:57 PM

It's the Tyrannosaurus Rex Tyrant Lizard King


hborre ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 4:34 PM

I have Tyrannosaurus Rex 3 which I just installed.  I will have to play with it this evening.  Unfortunately, I need to be somewhere else soon so I can't devote much time.

Are you applying canned poses or trying to pose the creature manually?


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 5:02 PM

Manually. When I import it, zero it, and drop it to floor, it looks great. I just can't pose it at all. it stretches, then becomes dissociated. Thank you for your help!



hborre ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 5:37 PM · edited Wed, 26 July 2023 at 5:38 PM

Check the Parameter Settings.  I have read that the imported parameter values may change drastically to ridiculously high or low numbers.  Not uncommon to import figures/props from DAZ Studio.  The only corrective way to deal with that is to reset them to workable values.


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 9:22 PM

Figure was zeroed. All parameter dials were zero. I'm really not sure what to make of it.


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 10:20 PM

Until there's a solution, I have the old Tyrannosaurus DR, so I will just go what I've done for the old Daz African Elephant and others. I went to the materials room, and generally all that's there is a diffuse and possibly specular, and sometimes a bump. I will generate new maps, add in ambient and ambient occlusion, and normal maps. Then adjust everything to render nicely in P11 Pro. The African Elephant actually came out quite nice. I can do all that for TRexDR and the rest of my dinosaurs DR. I have been doing this with a lot of my many years of Poser content with generally nice results when the models were nice. 

My renewed interest in dinosaurs was sparked when I found a particularly nice Jurassic Park style high electric fence system in .OBJ format at ShareCG. Once imported and Poserized, it looked so nice, it begged for dinosaurs to run amok! I just thought it might be easier to import the very nice looking Tyrant King, than retex the DR hoping for tolerable results.


hborre ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 10:23 PM

I just imported T-Rex 3 into Poser and I'm testing all the dial translations for rotational movement.  I am not finding any problems with manually posing the model.  And this is from the same vendor of the model you're using.

How are you generating your PCFs?


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Wed, 26 July 2023 at 10:53 PM

Didn't know I needed to.


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 27 July 2023 at 7:08 AM

That's what the DSON relies on to import figures/props into Poser.  What is your workflow for converting DAZ content to Poser?


bdpoppa ( ) posted Thu, 27 July 2023 at 11:05 AM

This utility work great for G3 and G8 figures.  Be sure to  follow directions on how to import the figures after changing the rigging.  Save the import in a new folder and run the updater.  This works only for figures and not for props.

https://www.renderosity.com/forums/threads/2899983/genesis-3-poser-updater-free-utility-for-poser-11

https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/76121/genesis-3-poser-updater



hborre ( ) posted Thu, 27 July 2023 at 2:30 PM

Unfortunately, this is not what the OP is having problems with.  It is more importing non-PCF figures which require a different methodology. 


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Fri, 28 July 2023 at 10:22 AM · edited Fri, 28 July 2023 at 10:27 AM

@hborre, 

That's correct. I haven't started importing G3 or G8 yet. If the importer won't create a .PMD, but shows it in the .CR2, I'm afraid to even try Genesis. None of the joints are working properly. There doesn't seem to be any JCM. Instead of the joint's bending, there is improper movement with "Stretching". Every joint becomes dislocated.


hborre ( ) posted Fri, 28 July 2023 at 7:07 PM

Exactly how are you exporting and importing your DAZ to Poser models?


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Sat, 29 July 2023 at 3:03 AM · edited Sat, 29 July 2023 at 3:09 AM

I have Daz Poser Importer Installed. I use Dimension 3d XL library manager to set up the import, no need to export from DS. Library manager creates companion files.

Everything works but the .PMD creation. The geometry object file and .CR2 are created. The textures are linked.


hborre ( ) posted Sat, 29 July 2023 at 8:21 AM

Even creating PCFs through DSON produces the same outcome when importing into Poser.  There is no JCM generated nor IK if the model is a rigged figure.  Although I have Dimension 3D XL Library Manager, I do not have it currently installed on my system.  I will need to look into this and determine if there is any difference between the programs.


hborre ( ) posted Sat, 29 July 2023 at 12:13 PM

jerbear64429 posted at 3:03 AM Sat, 29 July 2023 - #4471407

I have Daz Poser Importer Installed. I use Dimension 3d XL library manager to set up the import, no need to export from DS. Library manager creates companion files.

Everything works but the .PMD creation. The geometry object file and .CR2 are created. The textures are linked.

I just noticed on the XL Library Manager webpage that the software no longer works with Poser 11 Pro.  Now, Snarly's AVFix might make it compatible but I wonder if other code parts of the program are not properly working.

And I am mistaken, I do not have Dimension3D's XL Library Manager to test DUF imports.


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Sat, 29 July 2023 at 12:45 PM

I have the AVFix, but just in case, I still have my old Shaderworks Library Manager 2.6, so I'll give it a try. I'll let you know if there's a change. Thank you for your help.


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Sat, 29 July 2023 at 1:11 PM

There was no change. object file created from .DUF. .CR2 created. Still no .PMD file created. Same results. Textures load perfectly as well. Still seems to be a problem with DSON Importer 1.1.3.50. I have tried to chase down any incompatibilities.


Y-Phil ( ) posted Sun, 30 July 2023 at 5:05 AM

I could never make the DSON thing work properly on my Win10 platform, but the version I have is 1.2.0.12

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hborre ( ) posted Sun, 30 July 2023 at 5:33 AM

I have to check which latest version I installed into Poser.  I am aware that there was a version that didn't work properly but I don't recall which it was.


jerbear64429 ( ) posted Sun, 30 July 2023 at 10:12 AM

Far as I know, the last version that works for importing Genesis 2, 3, and 8, is DSON Importer 1.1.3.50. I do have DSON Importer 1.2.0.12 just in case.


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