ill get started tonight i think il go with the second sketch the jaw horns are sweet!

Cool. Yeah, he's more appealing because he's still relatively handsome. One of those wierd things I've noticed about what attracts the eye. You can make something as weird looking as you wanted but if the foundation was originally something fairly normal or attractive, most folks will want to look at it. This is opposed to something that's just so out there and so different that you can't associate it with anything and therefore it bothers you to look at it. Scott McCleod (sp?) in his "Understnading Comics" book touches on this and some other cool stuff too. If you are into comics or just into art, you should pick it up. It'll start to make you question why certain images "click" while other don't, how composition plays a key role in an images success at conveying a theme, and a whole mess of other things to question your perception of reality.

i like doing wrinkles alot i think the second one will give me more of an opurtunity to do that i agree with you though about the base of anything i have a weimreiner dog and just yesterday i was thinking how odd it is how pwople choose even more atractive animals like they do people after my wifes sister went must over the color the eyes etc i assume its all primal i do want to make some sweet teeth though

re: pic one. YODA? ;-) the F.O.G.

To be honest, I like the first one. I mean, it depends on what you want to portray. Personally, I would hate to meet the first vamp dude in an alley. The second one, however, I feel I could probably reason with, if you know what I mean. He has an air of 'humanity' about him. For me (I've been a vamp fan for 3 decades!) a vampire doesn't need to be handsome (unless we're popularising. eg Dracula). Even if 'it' were handsome, there has to be an underlying 'animal'. Your first image, gives me the impression of something wild about to tear my throat out...that's cool. Even though I like the 'chin horns' of #2, these would likely get in the way of any serious killing! Regardless, your ideas are great!

Thanks. There's always the exception to the rule I guess. However, I must disagree about the horns. They would move down as the chin/lower jaw moves down (at least that's how I see it) so he'd still be able to take a good sized bite or two. :)

Ha ha. He's your creation and you know best!! Good work!