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Subject: Anyone know where I can find a Pshent prop? (explanation within)


Strangechilde ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 7:01 PM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 5:51 AM

This is the double crown of ancient Egypt; the peaked one with the curled serpent rising form the crown. I need this for a character project (Nyarlathotep, no less). Preferably for free (of course), but I'll happily pay for a very nice one. Does anyone know where I might find such a thing? I'm coming up short! Thanks!


Cybermonk ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 7:35 PM

For what model Possette or Vicky etc.? I'll give it a shot. Got any pictures of it?

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Little_Dragon ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 8:10 PM

I can't tell for sure from the thumbnail, but I think that Gloria Ghast's Thoth character is wearing the sort of crown you describe. Here's a link to her site.
Poser Junction

Also, Traveler posted an Egyptian Pharaoh in the Characters section at PropsGuild.
PropsGuild



Strangechilde ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 8:26 PM

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Thanks! I had seen those, and while lovely; they're not *quite* what I'm after. It's the sort of thing you see on some of the heiroglyphs of seated pharaohs; here's a picture I found on the 'net at http://www.dabar.org/Rawlinson/Raw-Ch10/Maut.html on the goddess Maut. As to what figure it needs to fit, I am aiming to put it on Michael or Dork, but I am confident enough with the magnet tools that I think I can fit it if it is made for another figure.


Cybermonk ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 8:35 PM

That's a strange looking piece of head gear. I'll sure give it a shot though.

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Strangechilde ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 8:52 PM

Isn't it strange? I'd prefer a more understated version basically, the crown with the wings and the bird (the red crown) coming to about sideburn level in the front, shoulder length in the back; the white crown the peak and the serpent not rising to half the figure's height again, but perhaps only 8-10 inches; perhaps a bit more. Cybermonk, if you are thinking of modeling it, I might be able to recompense you in some way. Money being a possibility. I can't model not owning a modeling program is part of that! :P Must... feed... photoshop... habit... must... have... Kai's... power... tools...


Cybermonk ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 9:10 PM

No charge, happy to help.I like a good challenge. My only problem is geting a better Idea of it. I've been searching on the net looking for some some more references. The stuff is all profile though and a bit abstract looking. What I'll do is make some thing show it to you and let you tell me what changes need to be made. If you have enough time and patience I can build it. lol My email is cymonk@cp-tel.net if you need to get a hold of me.

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

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Strangechilde ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 9:26 PM

Well, wow, that would be excellent! Thanks! Only if you really want to do it thoughI'm not a modeler, so I don't know how hard this would be. Let me look about for images... so far I'm coming up mostly with heiroglyphs. Basically, it's a wide ringlet that goes around the skull. Two crowns are built into that: a red one, which extends down the neck to shoulder length and down to the front of the ears where the wings in the picture are, leaving the ears exposed, with the figure of an eagle (or some bird of prey) with s-curved neck rising from the center-forehead of the crown, not high but extending outwards; for the white crown, a high, peaked hood, sloping back with the angle of the forehead and bending forward a bit towards the top; a serpent in a more elongated s-shape arises from the same center as the bird-form, rising to 3/4ths the height of the hood. Must find better picture! I'm at peaseblossom@innocent.com.


Strangechilde ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 9:31 PM

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Crude, but might help:


VirtualSite ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 9:43 PM

Im pretty certain theres something very like this at Poserworld. Theres a Pharoah outfit, and I could swear he has a crown like this.


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 9:55 PM

I don't know if any of these images are copyrighted, so I'll just post the links.

Try here
and here
and maybe here
and definitely here

Hope these help.



Strangechilde ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 10:05 PM

Yes, LittleDragon, that's precisely the thing! VirtualSite, I don't have a subscription to Poserworld, so I can't be sure. Could you post an image? My funds are suffering from recent Daz purchases and Christmas, and I can't really afford to just buy a subscription in the hope it'll have what I want, unfortunately.


Cybermonk ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 10:06 PM

Much apreciated Little Dragon

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

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Little_Dragon ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 10:37 PM

Glad I could be of assistance. There's a picture of Poserworld's Pharoah outfit on page 4 of the site's Subscription Preview section. Looks like the upper crown, rather than the double. Here's the link:

PoserWorld



pendarian ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2001 at 10:45 PM

Strangechilde, it's something like what you want, but not quite, I just looked because I am also in the middle of an Egyptian project and was looking for a few things that I need. The links that were provided are really wonderful reference points Little Dragon. :) Now if I could also learn to model :) Good luck!! Pendy


Cybermonk ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 1:44 AM

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Its still in the modeling app here but am I any where close?

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Little_Dragon ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 2:07 AM

Wow, Cybermonk, you work fast. That's looking pretty good. I think it's supposed to come down more in the back, right down to the base of the skull.



Cybermonk ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 2:36 AM

Thanks Little Dragon. I'll work on it some more.

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

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Cybermonk ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 2:59 AM

file_245958.jpg

More like this?

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

Albert Einstein


Strangechilde ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 7:28 AM

Wow, look what happens when it gets really late in Scotland and I go to bed! Yes, much better coming down around the ears and lower in the back like that. That's excellent!


Strangechilde ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 7:48 AM

If I may suggest that the peak of the white part be a little bit flattened on the front faces, sloping back a bit in line with the red crown's peak? Wow, I didn't expect such fast work! Now you're making me feel bad for not having done the Ghoul yet. :)


Cybermonk ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 12:06 PM

file_245959.jpg

Is this what your talking about?

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

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Cybermonk ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 2:39 PM

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Oh man, I was just re reading your description of thr crown. You say thats a bird head in the figure. I was thinking it was a snake. Shows how much attention I've been paying. My bad. Oh yeah what about the trim in this picture? Good, bad or not needed?

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

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Strangechilde ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 7:05 PM

Trim is good- it will help me texture the model! With the extra reading I've been doing I've discovered that the bird is not merely a bird, it's the god Thoth; sort of a crane head with a downward-bent, flamingo-like bill (not quite so heavy; I don't think Thoth is a baleen feeder). I'm not sure what kind of a bird it is. I know far more about the Cthulhu mythos than Egyptian history, unfortuantely! The very top of the white crown is still getting me a little bit-- it's a bit too bottle-like. If it could resemble more the top of th red corwn as you've done it, that would be ace. It's great work very regal! I'm really looking forward to doing a texture for it!


Cybermonk ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 9:01 PM

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Ok, heres another rendition. We'll get it built finally. lol I'm not to sure about the crane head.

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

Albert Einstein


Strangechilde ( ) posted Tue, 18 December 2001 at 11:18 PM

Top is MUCH better. Wow! But here it is 5 AM again; I have got to go to sleep... That is such a great model! For the snake, perhaps not much need be changed. All it needs is a pointier snoot, with a hooked character, like a hawk's beak, but curved more like a spoonbill... oooooh, hallucinating David Attenborough, must sleep now...


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Sat, 22 December 2001 at 5:24 PM

Aw, crap ... look what I just found.

Cacheforce



Strangechilde ( ) posted Sun, 23 December 2001 at 9:30 AM

Ha ha ha! Well, actually, I think I like Cybermonk's better. How's it coming along, Cybermonk?


Cybermonk ( ) posted Sun, 23 December 2001 at 11:46 AM

I believe I've about got it. Kind of got behind schedule there. Sorry for the lack of updates. I have a proposition for you Strangechilde. I was thinking about putting the Pshent up in free stuff. You said you were going to make a texture for it right? How would you feel about sharing it in the free stuff? I'll host it with the Pshent. Giving you credit for your work of course. It would save me from making one and you oviously have a definite vision of what they should look like.

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

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Strangechilde ( ) posted Sun, 23 December 2001 at 6:11 PM

No worries about lack of updates! It's Holidays. I figured you were probably having a good time or something. :) Actually, I have no idea what it should look like detail-wise, but I have an idea of how I would like to texture itand if you're willing to host, I am more than happy to have whatever I do up in Freestuff as well. Is it a straight .obj? Shall I run it through UVmapper myself? I'd like to do some more intrcate detail on Thoth.


Cybermonk ( ) posted Sun, 23 December 2001 at 6:25 PM

Yeah I'll export it as an obj. As for Uvmapping it, you can UVmapp it however you see fit. I'll try to label the parts with recognizable names.

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

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Strangechilde ( ) posted Sun, 23 December 2001 at 6:52 PM

That'll be greatjust so I can tell the difference between the various materials and parts and all that. BTW I so much appreciate you doing this for me! I'll be sure to post the completed artwork once it's finished.


Strangechilde ( ) posted Wed, 09 January 2002 at 5:07 PM

Just checking up! How's it coming?


Cybermonk ( ) posted Fri, 11 January 2002 at 9:32 PM

Hey, sorry I've been slow on this I've been out of town on buisness the last couple of weeks. I'll see If I can finsh it up and send it to you this week end.

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

Albert Einstein


Strangechilde ( ) posted Sat, 12 January 2002 at 9:52 AM

That would be fantastic. I hope business went well! I'll try to have the exture done soon.


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