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Subject: TOS Needs a Change


Sinamin ( ) posted Mon, 28 January 2002 at 4:33 PM · edited Fri, 10 January 2025 at 4:31 PM

I am astounded at what the TOS allows to happen here. Today, Mosca posted an image that communicates "fuck you" as loudly as the written word...in fact more so...giving credence to "a picture is worth a thousand words". Now before posting this image, he made a post in the C&D forum, telling Richabri, who has politely voiced his opinion about the band of bullies in the C&D, that he just posted an image, specifically for Richabri. In other words, he created an image to tell Richabri "fuck you" and posted it in the galleries. Now, if I or anyone commented on an image by saying "fuck you", I would be in violation of the TOS. However, if the C&D bullies wish to post an image sending that message to community members..well heck, that's just fine and dandy...no violation of the TOS at all. Is it just me or is there something terribly wrong with this picture? Personally, I'm fed up with the C&D bullies, and their responses to anyone who disagrees with them. Someone needs to consider the TOS and the use of our galleries to send profane messages to an individual community member.

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Spiritbro77 ( ) posted Wed, 30 January 2002 at 10:27 PM

Nope they just did away with C&D instead


Poppi ( ) posted Thu, 31 January 2002 at 7:31 AM

Yeah, guess they took your complaints really seriously. No more C&D.


praxis22 ( ) posted Thu, 31 January 2002 at 1:00 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody ever forced people into C&D, they went there of their own volition. As for the TOS, they already tightened it up once, but the problem with the written word is that it's concrete, but constructing an image that implies much, but falls within the TOS, is pretty damn easy. Caveat Emptor later jb


ronknights ( ) posted Sun, 17 February 2002 at 9:20 AM

Hey, folks, we don't have a license to be abusive. The mere fact that C&D existed didn't give people the right to hurt other people. One of the hard lessons of adulthood is to accept responsibility for your own actions. You can choose to be honest, to disagree, without insulting. I've been accused of a "schoolmaster" attitude on this subject. Frankly I'm irritated that people act that way, so that I feel compelled to help correct their behavior. Ron


Lisas_Botanicals ( ) posted Sun, 17 February 2002 at 10:18 AM

I agree that I do not have a license to be abusive. I agree I have no right to hurt another person. I agree with accepting responsibility for my own actions. I agree to disagree. I agree to be honest. I agree to not insult.

I do not agree that any one person has the right to "correct" their perception of my "inappropriate" behavior.

One of the greatest lessons anyone can learn in life is that there is NOT ONE RIGHT WAY. Not one right way to speak, to write, to draw, to express, to advise, etc. Each and every one of us is DIFFERENT. It takes a much bigger person to learn to accept, respect and even embrace the DIFFERENCES in his/her fellow man instead of attempting to force his/her fellow man to do things his/her way.

If my behavior here needs correcting I am sure the admin will act appropriately. I do not need anyone to "help correct" it.

Lisa


ronknights ( ) posted Sun, 17 February 2002 at 10:28 AM

OK, you started off in a positive manner, but you lost it. That's most likely due to the fact that you didn't appreciate the way I said my words. I have a right to tell someone if I don't appreciate their offensive or abusive behavior. I have a right to expect that person to apologize and modify said behavior, or be kind enough "to leave the room." I don't need to keep my mouth shut in such a situation. I don't need to wait for a moderator to step in. I'm an adult male, 52 years old, 6 ft and weigh 300 pounds. I will defend myself if need be. I won't cower before someone who feels justfied in their insults. I will try very hard to be diplomatic, but you will know I don't appreciate inappropriate or abusive behavior. It doesn't matter if it is directed toward me or someone else. In this case, there is "one right way:" To treat others with respect, as you would be treated. The Christians call it "The Golden Rule." I'm willing to bet other religions and societies have a similar concept, "or rule." Ron


Poppi ( ) posted Sun, 17 February 2002 at 10:31 AM

I'm in complete agreement with LisaB, on this one. That's pretty presumptuous, I think, rk.


Lisas_Botanicals ( ) posted Sun, 17 February 2002 at 10:31 AM

Well, let me say that you started off in a positive manner in your previous post. I agreed with you wrote until the last bit where you declare yourself the "schoolmaster" attempting to "help correct". Wanting an apology is one thing. Declaring yourself the disciplinarian is another. Lisa


ronknights ( ) posted Sun, 17 February 2002 at 10:39 AM

Both of you misinterpreted what I said. I was quoting a term used by someone else, and replying. I was merely stating that I resent the fact that people act in such an abusive manner so that I feel compelled to remind them to act like adults. If someone really cares about how they relate with others, they don't act abusive in the first place. Then they don't have to feel someone has appointed himself as a disciplinarian. Ron


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