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Subject: Question about Monitor size and Bryce


tradivoro ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 8:29 AM · edited Tue, 11 February 2025 at 7:24 AM

I'm trying to maximize he monitor real estate in my system, so I went to 1280 X 1024... I have a 19 inch monitor... In Photoshop, the program takes advantage now of the bigger size, so does Vue d'Esprit, Photopaint and other applications I use... However Bryce remains small and there isn't anything in the manual for making sure that bryce spreads out to the size of the screen or monitor, it just deals with getting larger render picture size in bryce.. Any way to get the Bryce screen and picture to fill out the entire screen?? Any info appreciated, thanks...


Tekchip ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 8:47 AM

Well is the problem acctually when you open bryce it's just not maxamized or is it that the view port for the wire frame is still tiny? If you want to get bryce to remember that it's maxamized when you first open it I believe you need to do a proper file>exit when the program is maxamized. If it's that the view port on the wire frame is to small it's because it's remained the default size of 640x480 which on a 1280x1024 screen is pretty tiny. To get the right size you have to go to file>new and then type in 1024x768 or what ever view port size fits you. As to get it to remember that size every time you open the application I've been lazy in looking that up. Probably some place in the properties that tells it to use that info as default. Can some one let us know exactly where that is? Either way that should at least partially solve your problem and get you to work on some renders. Enjoy. :-)


tradivoro ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 8:58 AM

Thanks tekchip... The problem is that bryce is not maximized when you open it up, and there for you only have a teeny tiny screen to work on... I'll try that tonite, I don't have the program in front of me... When I first made it big, by going to file setup screen, I didn't see any change other than the image became bigger in a small window and you couldn't see it all... So I exited, but didn't open again... Perhaps it's already there... I was just surprised all the other applications automatically maximized themselves but not Bryce.... thanks again...


Tekchip ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 9:14 AM

Well as you'll learn, or may all ready know bryce is hardly 'other applications' it's one of the qwerkiest, weirdest pieces of software I've ever seen. But it's great once you get used to it. I was just thinking about it and if maxamizing it and doing a file exit doesn't work you may try creating a short cut to bryce and if you right click the shortcut and go in to it's properties you can tell windows to force bryce maxamized on open. It's the drop down box in the properties called 'Run:' Change it to maxamized and windows should force bryce to open maxamized.


tradivoro ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 9:40 AM

I'll try that too tek, if regular way doesn't work.. thanks...


Alleycat169 ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 9:46 AM

Go to your pull down menu and select "File/Document Setup". Change the numbers in the "Document Resolution" box to the size you want. I prefer 960x720 on an 1152x670 screen. This fully fills the frame and leaves room for the interface. As far as I know Bryce will always open the default 640x480 window size, just use "Document Setup", you don't need to "select new". In fact you can change the documant size (and shape) at any time while you are working on the image. I hope that clears up some of the confusion.


Aldaron ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 10:15 AM

On the right side of your screen, did you click the little min/max button?


Alleycat169 ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 10:27 AM

I never do, but you can. It just pulls the interface back a few more pixels, but if you want full screen every little bit helps. Another tip when I am rendering larger images is to leave my document resolution at 960x720 and turn up the "render resolution" way up. I click on the render button to start the render, then stop it after a few lines. Next I click the little "minus" sign (lower right corner) until the render is small enough to see the whole frame. Then I start the render over again. This allows me to see the entire image as it renders for the next day or so. ;-)


tradivoro ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 11:36 AM

I'll try that alleycat... Also aldaron, I did try the min/max button and although it affected the image, it did not affect the window... thanks for the suggestions...


Alleycat169 ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 12:25 PM

You're welcome tradivoro, Since you are using 1280x1024 screen res. You might want to make your document size 1152x870. If your renders take too long you can always reduce your render size for your "proofs" until you are ready for your final render. Good luck. Also, the Minimize/Maximize toggle only affects the interface, not the document size.


tradivoro ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 5:31 PM

Ok, it worked for the most part.. Now, the interface and screen are maximized, however, the only time that the work screen is maximized is when I render.. The rest of the time, it's still a small square in wireframe mode... It doesn't get any bigger whether I look at it in any view.. Has this been the experience of others here??? Alleycat? Aldaron? Tekchip?


Tekchip ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 6:09 PM

The working screen gets larger when you go file>new and pick out a new workspace size(or what ever the technical name is for that). Try doing that and picking out a larger res area. You can get some quick options for this by clicking the little triangle on the lower left hand side of the workspace.


ringbearer ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 8:40 PM

Once you get the screen the way you want it, you can save it as default.br4 or default.br5, put it in the same folder where the application is, and Bryce will open that.

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tradivoro ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 8:53 PM

Yeah, that's what I did, I picked out larger resolution sizes, tried using the max/min button, but in wireframe, the window is small, not as large as the rest of the space, but when I render, then the image is maximized... So, am I stuck with the little window... i mean, it's small compared to the rest of the area, whereas when I had it at 600X800, the wireframe window took up most of the working area... I'm in Bryce 5 by the way...


tradivoro ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 9:05 PM

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Anyway, this is what I'm talking about... Is this the way it should look?? Resolution here is 1080X810... As you can see, the work area wireframe is no 1080X810, but if I render that, then it becomes 1080X810...


Tekchip ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 10:03 PM

Hmmmm...well that should change when you pick the new size. There's definately something wrong there. What happens if you change the display mode from wire frame to gl or d3d or if you try picking a higher resolution? Does it change in size or anything?


hewsan ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 10:10 PM

Another idea.... While you are in either camera or director view move your mouse over to bottom right corner of the interface and press the + key. Will increase the work screen size.


hewsan ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 10:12 PM

Clarification - not a key, but the icon of the + in the magnifying glass........


Alleycat169 ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 10:57 PM

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I think you're missing something. You keep saying you changed the "render resolution", but what you need to change is the "Document resolution". Look at what is circled in red. Is this what you changed?


Alleycat169 ( ) posted Wed, 20 February 2002 at 11:02 PM

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Here's what you should see after changing Document Resolution.


tradivoro ( ) posted Thu, 21 February 2002 at 12:34 AM

Ok Alleycat, i see what happened, I was working in the wrong box.. Thanks very much for posting the picture cause now, that I did it right thanks to your post, it works like a dream... I got a very nice size screen to do work on ... :) Thank you all for trying to help me with this thing...


Tekchip ( ) posted Thu, 21 February 2002 at 12:44 AM

geez I'm lazy. I'm sorry. I'd have posted those in the first place if I wasn't at work and didn't have access to a copy of bryce. Thanks allycat for getting that done.


tradivoro ( ) posted Thu, 21 February 2002 at 8:22 AM

Hey tek, you definitely helped me get on the right track, I got the screen to maximize, so thank you as well... :)


Wadus ( ) posted Thu, 21 February 2002 at 5:43 PM

I just wanted to add to what ringbearer said earlier. You can set up a scene at the size you want and save it with the name default and put it in your Bryce folder and it will open that file when Bryce is launched. You can also put a sky, objects or whatever into that scene and those will be opened also. Just wanted to let everyone know this because I just found out about it no too long ago. It saves time if you have favorite settings that you use most of the time, so you dont have to manually set it up everytime.


dcon197 ( ) posted Thu, 21 February 2002 at 10:13 PM

When I go to Edit>Preferences and click Launch to previous state It always opens to the same size and settings as when I closed it. Hope this helps


tradivoro ( ) posted Thu, 21 February 2002 at 10:24 PM

Good to know Wadus and dcon... Right now, for the most part, I dont' have any favorite setting when I first open up... I usually sketch an idea for a scene first and then take it from there in Bryce... so, I'm starting anew... :)


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