Well, As mentioned before, I'm working on a spline frog. I've learned that one of the ways that I can make a complicated model is to build a simple model first to work my final model around and into. This danged frog is causing me some pain. So I rebuilt my original simplified model and I'm posting it here for some help. Let me know if I have these proportions correct and how to fix them up. Thanks, -Kix

The proportions look good for a "tree frog", like those in the rain forests. The abdomen is usually not as fat and the head is usually bigger, and some of them tend to hold their heads up and their rear ends down when sitting. In those cases the body angles up from the rear, then is flat on the dorsal surface, then angles up and down for the head in side view. But others will flatten out on a branch or leaf, like the posture of this one. It depends on whether you're trying for super-realism or a stylized version. I think they have five opposable toes on each front foot and four on each rear foot.

Attached Link: http://www-itg.lbl.gov/ITG.hm.pg.docs/Whole.Frog/Whole.Frog.html

Here's a resource you might find helpful. Check out some of the gifs. The top/side view proportions seem a little too insectoid to me; I think the the widest portion is across the shoulders, with less of a clear division onthe abodoment. That said, the front and perspective views look very nice, especially the head. Cute, even.

Aha! You are correct. I have a bug frog! I'll fix on this a little and post it tonight. I am working on making this a little tree frog but I do think I want him to be a little styled. I'm going to put him on my leaf I posted in the gallery "leaf test". This little bugger is made up completely of primitives except for the eyelid and that makes it really easy to rearrange (I set up the legs to be fully articulated and C poseable). Stay tuned for a fixed up version.

How's this?

Yeah, baby! Great job on the texture, by the way.

Thanks! I've made one more change to this dude and that's to fatten him up a little. He still looked to insectish. I've already started the vertex modeling now. My second serious wire frame project (chewing nails and cursing but learning all the while). I'm following a similar Litst pathway modeling the head and body first. Then I'll extrude some legs out of this and finish with the feet and eyes. Frogs also have some interesting bumps in their hind end where their pelvis pushes up their skin so that will have to come in. How will I ever do frog lips! The texture is going to be interesting considering most of these critters have a cooler lighter colored belly and chin. I'm following the litst tutorial pathway for the eye when I get there as well modifying it for the cats eye pupil difference. One challenge at a time. BTW, I have created a scene with my walkers but so far the scenes aren't very good and I'm working on them. I have a whole OTHER project that I'm working on for a friend to recreate a house his great grandfather built in the late 1800's which burned down. Too much stuff to do! I'm also waiting on one more thing and we're ready for the next contest! Contest first, projects later. -Kix

Here's my frog working on the body and the head. This has been subdivided once.

Now that the head and body are looking good, how do you plan to do the ankle and knee joints?

Working on it. I've started working on the join between the body and the legs. So far, very challenging. I'm planning on extending the cross section for the legs by using the Add thickness option, wrapping it around and performing some smart welding. I think it will work out. -Kix

wow, kermit is really coming along. keep up the good work kix! -scott