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Subject: feature film


inacio ( ) posted Thu, 01 August 2002 at 8:56 AM · edited Mon, 02 December 2024 at 1:58 AM

i want to make a feature film in poser 4 and after transfer video to 35 film.what i have to do to get a good definition?


quixote ( ) posted Thu, 01 August 2002 at 9:31 AM

Don't know if I understand correctly your question. But, if you transfer to 35mm, one frame at a time and it's done well, then you should not have any definition problem. Write an rditing script and make tests to determine the best size for each shot or sequence, in other words just plan your work well and get to know the equipment andor people who will do the transfer. Any more questions, ask them. You did say a feature film..right? Hope you have the budget. That's the only way I know of. Good luck, Q

Un coup de dés jamais n'abolira le hazard
S Mallarmé


inacio ( ) posted Thu, 01 August 2002 at 9:43 AM

thank you quixote,but i want to know if i have to render the movie in 720/480,1440/960,what resolution i must render the movie?thank,inacio zatz.


quixote ( ) posted Thu, 01 August 2002 at 9:55 AM

This is from a previous post by Eric: "if you render for video use the NTSC (640x480pixels) or PAL format (768x576pixels), for film use HDVS (1920x1080 pixels) WIDESCREEN (1800x972 pixels), SCOPE (2048x872 pixels), etc..." I think this is accurate. You can probably check these out with the Academy or a number of other associations. I would also consult the techniciens that will do the transfer. Hope this helps and I look forward to seeing your movie. Q

Un coup de dés jamais n'abolira le hazard
S Mallarmé


quixote ( ) posted Thu, 01 August 2002 at 10:04 AM

"Film/video resolution and size of smallest pixel or picture element. The best available answer: "It Depends!" The size of the smallest pixel depends upon the following factors: 1. Filmstock used. 2. Exposures made. 3. Processing and Printing settings. 4. Projection situations. 5. Video system utilized. 6. Computer system utilized. 7. Digital standards available. 8. How recently the answer is dated. The rapid evolution and development of film/video/computer equipment in recent years makes this question practically impossible to answer -- not that that stops folks from trying. Traditionally a 35mm motion picture frame (safety film) was said to contain between four and eight million pixels, depending upon the issues raised in the first four items above. Nitrate film supposedly provided better images, i. e., more pixels. Recently Sony announced a 35mm still camera (digital) at 5.5 million pixels. Since 35mm still photos are twice the size of motion picture frames that would equate to 2.75 million -- or less than the range of motion pictures. Commercial equipment has greater ranges. But, so what? Next week someone will introduce a bigger and better digital camera and the entire issue is largely irrelevant. The only significant conclusion here is don't be surprised at the wide range of answers available to this question throughout film literature." Perhaps the better answer, inacio. That's why you should talk to the people who will do the transfer. Q

Un coup de dés jamais n'abolira le hazard
S Mallarmé


inacio ( ) posted Thu, 01 August 2002 at 10:17 AM

thank you very much,best wishes.


bikermouse ( ) posted Thu, 01 August 2002 at 11:15 PM

Q, I think PAL was one television standard - numbers sound right for TV resolution. there is another TV standard but I can't remember what it is called - It's a little lower that the PAL std. 4-8 megs sounds a little low for modern 35mm film, but I'm willing to take your word for it. (granularity of the film relates directly to the resolution.) - TJ


quixote ( ) posted Fri, 02 August 2002 at 1:12 AM

TJ- This is not my word, it's from some California film school. Sorry, I just picked it up a few weeks ago and saved it without the reference, for my own use. Never thought I would reproduce it here. I do somewhat agree with you. For my own project, I will get the aspect ratio of the film/projection setup and produce the frames at the highest res possible within that AR logic. But then the transfer is done by the production company itself and there are no surcharges for resizing. Some outfits will charge you an arm and a leg if they have to resize a frame. That's only one reason why it's so hard to answer these sorts of questions. Q

Un coup de dés jamais n'abolira le hazard
S Mallarmé


bikermouse ( ) posted Fri, 02 August 2002 at 1:58 AM

Q, without detailed up to date references on such things it's almost impossable to answer correctly. inacio: Perhaps a google to kodak, fuji and other makers of film is in order. When you find out what the resolution is you should render at twice that and resize to the original resolution of the film. This may be impossable, and you might find you're even cutting the original resolution by more than 50%. test render a single frame first. If the time factor isn't too restrictive, (see you in a couple of years,) and everthing looks ok, make some more test renders at random points before making your movie. - good luck, TJ


cainbrogan ( ) posted Wed, 11 December 2002 at 1:38 PM

Not sure if I'm too late here, but I think what you were asking for is the Aspect Ratio of 35mm film. Aspect Ratio's of many popular Outputs are as follows: Movies: 16:9... the great surprise to many is that the movies that we see at the theatres is NOT 16:9. Instead there are a number of ratios, 1.33:1 (or, 4:3,) 1.5:1 (the most common,) 1.66:1, 1.85:1 and 2.35:1 are common sizes Bryce 5 - 70mm resoulution is 6144x2048 or 3:2 , Vistavision, Cine35. 35mm Film 3072x2048 (1.5:1,) TV NTSC D1 video is 720x486 (1.48:1,) while PAL/SECAM D1 video is 720x576 (1.25:1). You'll notice that there isn't a 4:3 ratio among the video resolutions. Whut up wit dat!? Since there is a certain area lost to the bezel around the tv, and also TV's squeeze the image horizontally by 10-11%. You'll need to contact who actually doing the tansfer. Ask them what the minimum and maximum resolutions they can transfer to thier 35mm. Also why are you trying to put video onto a Still frame negative. Is there a 35mm video film? I thought 35mm was jsut for cameras. = )


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