I remember my first computer, a peg-board panel, with peg-board discs, contact points, some 6 volt lights and a couple of D-cells. Then there was HeathKit, Then Radio shack TRS-80, even the Guerilla Bannana dot matrex printer. We also had DOS1.0 programs. We have come a long way. People today seem to have the Instant Pudding, Instant Tea, Rice, Dinner, computer programs that does it all syndrome. How many of us can write one line of code let alone the many lines of code required for Poser? How many lines are there Steve? OK, lets get a new product out. First we need to develope the product, write the lines of code, debug, then test, then debug. We need a manual, can't throw just anything together. Need to proof read, correct, make sure graphics are correct, print, develope artwork, packaging,etc. WOW!!! Have we forgotten what is involved in getting any product out to market. Oh, yes and make a profit. What happened to MetaCreations? Of course we all could go back to the wooden mannequens that sat on the deak. Or how about a PC with 8K ram and 820K hard drive with a 5 1/2 inch floppy. I think Curious Labs needs to be thanked for where they have taken Poser and for whats comming. Keep up the good work Steve and gang.

ooh, i remember even harder times: fires in caves, my first mammoth... seriously: i will thank them as soon as i get my free update. otherwise, they may count my money as thanks.

p.s.: how about converting poser to my spectrum 48k? would look great beside "horacio" and "psssst".... ;]

Ahhhh... the dear ol' Specy... such happy times. Jack

Hard times! you don't know meaning of t'word, by 'eck, uup chimney at 3am, breakfast was a bottle of water and an onion, we paid Mill owner to work for 25 hours a day and we had nothing, why when I was were eleven my father bought me a hat so I could look out window...

Luxury! Used to dreeeeam of owning a hat, we had to make do wi' a chip wrapper - used mind! Jack

I remember the 8 inch floppy disk drive we used to have at a place I worked at a couple of years ago.

I see Vicky and Mike have Mac & PC formats, but what about the Commodore 64? (grin)

ooooh you were the lucky ones with your hats n' such. we had it so hard we didn't even 'ave heads! It wasn't until Poser that I got one. Even then, it was 1.0 and I couldn't blink.

Robertlov, Interesting point here. I actually don't know how many lines of code are in Poser. Aside from the application, there are all the other resources needed as well. Think of the runtime directory, although there is certainly a lot of stuff in there that some us hardly ever use, but even so, it's enormous. As a body of work, the sheer volume that represents what is Poser is pretty much without comparison in any other product available. Think of how many other apps you would ever run across that have a 140 meg installer... not that I'm proud of that number; it is what it is. And all this is being done by a handful of technologists, programmers, artists, and support people. And btw, thanks!

Thanks to Curious Labs....and thanks also to Robertlov for reminding me of my own Geniac, which I hadn't thought of in a long time. For anyone who needs a refresher about what they looked like, here's a picture I found on the 'net: http://online.sfsu.edu/~hl/c.Geniac.html And this site has an archive of all the documentation: http://www.computercollector.com/archive/geniac/ Enjoy... lynn

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I remeber getting my first computer a commodre 64 and thinking Wow! 64 KB of memory! Thats HUGE I'l never use all of that! Ah! to be young and stupid again.

Lots of interesting comments here. Thanks for the link to geniac. Cheers everyone.

::snicker:: i think that i shelled some 300 bucks for an 1kb extension for zx80 back then in the 80's... then i saw "elite" on acorn and my jaw hit my feet... :))

On the subject of old computers, let's get REALLY old :-) and go back to the old days when computers were room and power hogging monsters and of these monsters ENIAC was HUGE! it was 1,900 cubic feet of black-enameled sheet metal and bakelite, 18,000 vacuum tubes, 6,000 switchs, 70,000 resistors, 5 million soldered joints and miles of wiring. It weighted 30 tons and used 174 kilowats of electricty. On the 50th aniversary of its creation two U Penn students duplicated the machine on a microchip the 1/4 the size of a postage stamp. The current $4 pocket calculator has more computing power than ENIAC had. How's that for computer progress? :-)