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Subject: upgrading Nvidia Detonator drivers for Poser 5, XP warning


diana ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2002 at 9:23 PM · edited Thu, 28 November 2024 at 8:40 PM

This may not apply to your system but if you have this issue it can be maddening until you realize what caused it. I had many issues in Poser 5 that appeared to be video related (screens not redrawing properly, or slowly). These issues were not solved by downloading and installing the latest 4041 Detonator drivers for my Nvidia Riva TNT2/Model 64 card. I was previously running the Detonator 6.13.10.2311 drivers and have since rolled back to them since the Poser 5 issue is no worse and it fixes the problems I had with the new drivers. The driver problem, Window Media Player froze and took a very long pause to open even the littlest avi file on my hard drive and it took minutes to open anything larger. Opening something from the web it might totally freeze despite my high speed connection when this used to work great. Ctrl alt delete worked so slowly that I just had to get up and wait on it to finally load the movie file and play it then shut it down.

I know lots of folks have talked about updating their video drivers, some Nvidia folks around here too. Just a heads up if you notice the problem I did. This is an off the shelf HP 7966 system with no hardware changes, P4-1.7GHz, 512MB RAM, Win XP Home. This video card is found in dozens of low cost systems.


quixote ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2002 at 11:08 PM

If you go on the various Nvidia or 3d gaming fora, you will find quite a few people with such problems. Some find fixes, some roll back others tweek. Good luck.

Un coup de dés jamais n'abolira le hazard
S Mallarmé


rodzilla ( ) posted Wed, 25 September 2002 at 11:13 PM

alltho all nvidia cards are covered in the "unified driver package",the newer nvidia drivers are intended more for the newer cards,the gf3's and gf4's.driver development for the older cards stopped a long while back,and many people will tell you not to bother with the latest and greatest drivers for these cards.they're just as likely to cause problems or degrade performance as they are to fix or help anything on a pre-gf3 card. if you're running winXP there is a driver update available from MS's windows update,these are nvidia's drivers but certified for XP from Microsoft,i believe the version number is 23.**?these work well in XP and are about the best trafeoff for stability and feature support for all the older nvidia based cards.


poseschool ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2002 at 4:51 AM

This must be an XP issue then... Under Win 98 I updated my Nvidia Gforce 2 MMX400 with the latest driver from the Nvidia site which is August 2000 so not quite sure rodzilla where you got the idea that they are not making new drivers for older cards from.... Anyhow, it actually fixed rendering problems I was having.


Netherworks ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2002 at 5:08 AM

I tend to agree with rodzilla, as the newer drivers are for the latest and greatest nvidia cards. I too am running an nvidia tnt2 and have found that the 1.6.3.0 nvidia drivers work the best for me, and are microsoft certified drivers. poseschool, perhaps there are still performance enhancements being done for the earlier Gforce line of cards.

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poseschool ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2002 at 5:28 AM

Netherworks, you may be right about the TNT. Just know I downloaded the Gforce 2 driver which says August 2002 not (2000 oops)from the Nvidia site so it looks like they are still writing updates for my card at least.


rodzilla ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2002 at 5:54 AM

yes they still release them poserschool it's called a "unified driver". that same download you got is the same one you need for EVERY nvidia card,if you had a gf4 or a tnt1 you could use that same exe file to load the drivers for it...all i'm saying is that you're probably not going to get much in the way of enhancements or fixes in these newer drivers if you have an older card,they release them about weekly...to fix glitches in the new cards that people are screaming about,they really don't waste thier time trying to wring more performance out of a card they sold three years ago..that part of the code was working about as well as it was ever going to a while back,they just add more stuff to it for the new cards now...sometimes that's good for everyone,but sometimes it's not...the difference between a tnt2 and a gf4 is vast!


sittingblue ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2002 at 10:03 AM

I use the 23.11 driver too on two of my machines. It works fine. I've upgraded the driver twice and have had OpenGL problems both times.

I'm sticking with 23.11 until I acquire one of the new GeForce4 or later cards.

Charles

Charles


praxis22 ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2002 at 4:20 PM

40.41 on a GForce4 440MX, no problems, (I've even overclocked it :) just out of interest anyone know how I get OpenGL working? later jb


WiNC ( ) posted Fri, 27 September 2002 at 3:44 PM

For those who are having problems with the 40.41 I suggest trying to get hold of the 30.30 drivers. I have a number of machines with Nvidia cards ranging from TNT2 up to G3Force 4 TI4600 and the 30.30 drivers (which I believe were beta) have proved to be the best all round. The biggest problem with the 40.xx series right now is they are trying to technology with WindowsXP and Resfresh rates/Multimonitor support, and sometimes this new technology is causing issues with some machines. They have released new drivers on their website yesterday 40.71 which I am using right now. These drivers still have some issues with some games (main one being Age of Wonders 2 - but not as bad as the 40.41 drivers) so they might still have some issues with them. Also for those who have not got multi-monitors I would suggest turning off Multi-Monitor Hardware Acceleration. This has been known to fix a number of lockups, and other OpenGL issues which have appeared since the 40.xx series has come out. In regards to no new drivers for older cards... Correct in essence. There is no new updated enhancments to the driver set for the chipsets used with TNT2, and Geforce 2MX, and Geforce 2. However - There are Unified Drivre enhancments which can benefit older cards just as much as newer cards. A primary example of this is the Multi-Monitor Hardware Acceleration support (when working will make WindowsXP a true Mutli-Monitor machine with OpenGL on both monitors) and also the introduction of Direct3D WindowsXP/Win2k Refresh Rate manager (since Win2k, and WindowsXP all set directX at a refresh rate of 60hz for games and DirectX3d/OpenGL applications). In regards to Windows no refreshing: Pro Pack SR2 had the same problem with me - it was fixed in SR3 - so I wouldn't be doubtful if simular problems with Poser 5 will be fixed when SP1 for it is released (hopefully). Regards WiNC


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