The only reason might be to separate the credits given to the 'Rosity vendors from the rest and to enable people to go shopping. i think it is distracting. when folks go to look at the "art" in our gallery, they should not be linked into side trips into the market. gallery should be for art, market should be for shopping. as for vendors only being linked in the "credits"...well, it made me upset, but, hey....nothing says i can't upload something into the marketplace so i can be linked as well. and, i bet i am not the only one getting THAT idea....think of it....our already "swell" market can now grow even more with folks like me, who would just like the linking ability. kmart, eat your heart out. r'osity's got you beat 10 fold.

So are we required to credit commercial items now if we post images here? When I purchase something I don't feel I should have to credit it since I already paid for it. It's the merchant's job to promote their products - not mine. I always credit free stuff providers (and I don't find all my freebies at Rosity) because I feel its the least I can do for their allowing me to use their creations for free.

Jade, You donjt have to credit if you dont want to. Clint

Thank you very much Clint for clarifying that. I'm a happy camper then. Good luck with your remodelling ;)

Allow me to put in a vote for no anon rankings. I agree, too much trolling.

Saw it, hated it, won't use it, removed my gallery. It's that simple. KateTheHippieProtester

oh, kate....i wish i had your guts. that was my first thought, too....then, i second thoughted it and just decided i will upload something to market. after all, i don't have to worry that much about the quality of it...i have a cute little teapot i think i'll sell....just for the privileges, of course.

I guess I'm out of the loop. We have a free gallery that is pretty liberal about what is posted here. We can, or don't have to, give credit to the products we use. We can, or don't have to, allow comments and feedbacks on our graphics. We can, or don't have to, post if we want to. And the people who run Renderosity seem responsive to requests for changes. And once in a great while they like to try something new that doesn't really hurt us or effect our ability to continue to post and we are mad....why? What exactly is being protested here? I didn't get it at the first posting and I don't get it now. I guess I'm dim, and I admit it.

The gallery redesign,(i.e., big boxes, etc.) some feel it's ugly, some think it's great...

Well, ok, I'll confess, none of my stuff had been viewed in the last 3 months anyway, so it was time to take it all down and start over. I just did it a bit earlier than planned, but don't tell, ok? Kate P.S. I still think the new gallery layout is impossible to read and just flatout ugly since there will always be this really big empty space where the "credits" are supposed to go cuz I don't DO credits (except for freestuff when I remember who made it).

Oh, I get that some people don't like the gallery design, but I don't see the point of getting angry about it. I understand perfectly people giving constructive feedback to to the designers and saying what works and what doesn't work. Not all experiments work. Not all graphics work. That's what trial and error is about. But to get so emotional about this seems just beneath the artists here. I don't like white micropirnt on dark backgrounds, becuase it's impossible to for me to read without the type vibrating and hurting my eyes, but that doesn't keep anyone from using it and if I said I wouldn't visit any site that used it, I would be punishing myself more than the website. It's a matter of keeping things in perspective, I guess. I think we may be headed to war. That seems to me to be something to get emotional about. How they change the galleries is a matter of interest but not great passion. I guess that's just me. I don't really expect anyone to view my stuff on the galleries. I do my own thing and largely get ignored. Oh well. I'm not an artist and my stuff isn't for sale, so I'm not exactly losing anything by not having views. That may be the reason my perspective is different. I understand this important to some people, but give the Renderosity folks a break. I don't think they are purposefully trying to drive away the artists...they are just trying new things to keep the site fresh and keep visitors coming back. I'm sure they appreciate all of you who have given excellent advice to them. I'm just saying it's confusing to me that people got so furious about it.

.."empty space where the "credits" are supposed to go"... It is more revolting than that Kate! If there are no "credits" posted by the artist we are informed that "The artist did not list any additional credits for this item" ( naughty little artists! ). I must admit, I have never thought of my images as items. Kind dialyn! everything you say is very resonable and I can clearly see your point of view. Many artists here work in some kind of design context and know that there are better creative choices to be made to enhance the functionality of Renderosity. What may seem on the face of it to be superficial details are in fact very important issues, otherwise these changes would not have been implemented in the first place. I would never challenge the right of Renderosity to rearrange this site in any manner they see fit. The problem is when the change is presented as one thing and manifests as something other. On your point about revitalising the site to attract more people. Surely it is the work posted that brings in the viewers, not the design of the site. The way the boxy format pushed up against the images was a prime example of why I personally protested against this new format. This is less a war and more of a skirmish in order to make feelings known and negotiate a few compromises, which is the process you are now witnessing. My main income is derived from designing exhibition stands. The most important issue for me and my clients is getting across a clear message that can be scanned by even the most casual passer by. We live in an age of information overload and over design, in most cases it is totally gratuitous and the only reason it is done is because it can be done. The anger expressed by myself and others comes from a feeling that whoever designed the new format? should know better!. Less is more! One last thing patient dialyn. I paid a visit to your gallery. You get far more viewings than myself, however the comments function seems not to be enabled? Regards to all. Brendan.

If I was an artist, the comments would be important to me. I do the graphics for myself and for my friends, and to have a little fun. The comments therefore don't seem to be relevent. I have people who give me feedback on what I could improve and those are often useful. With my amateur status, I don't see any reason to have comments hanging off my graphics. That's just me. I don't expect anyone else to agree.

...." I do my own thing and largely get ignored"... Sorry that I misunderstood that part of your post, dialyn. Cheers!

I see...yes, that was just a statement of fact, not a complaint. I don't expect to be anything but ignored. It's a choice I make. Freedom for me to be largely invisible. If someone made a comment that they liked this or that about my graphic, I might start trying to repeat this or that to get approval again instead of trying something different. I'm weird that way. But I know that's just me and not something anyone else would agree with.