If you go to the curious labs web site, there is a small banner to the left, offering you a chance to win a high end pc with Poser 5 installed. It takes you to a questionnaire about poser 5. What is interesting about this is that among the questions are: opinion on software locks, do you buy/create content, why do you use poser, how often, etc. the results of this survey are being emailed directy to EGISYS so it would appear they are evaluating peoples opinions and perceptions of Poser 5. So some of those who feel curious labs isn't listening, here is your chance to get your opinions across to a higher athority, and maybe win a cool computer system in the process!

my favorite question is #18 18. Where did you buy your first version/upgrade? Curious Lab web store At a software dealer Academic reseller EGISYS web store In a shop (retailer) Bought from an acquaintance At an internet auction I did not buy it, it was a gift of acquaintance/family Illegal copy I'm sure they're gonna catch a lot of warezers with that last choice.;)

Uh, wdupre, maybe they're reconsidering their position on software protection schemes, particularly since Poser 5's is causing grief??? Maybe there is an altruistic motivation? Maybe finally someone with some financial acumen is writing questions? Could happen...

Here's your big chance. (snicker, snicker)

I'm serious here g the question was taken out of the context of the rest of the questionnaire. Another question was "what is your opinion of dongles...etc.," I'm paraphrasing. If your (EricofSD) remark was directed at me "Here's your big chance" do you care to elaborate? Exactly what do you mean? Please clarify, (my sisters' an attorney and we'd love to read your explanation). Do you really think, if 30% of CL's paying customers were introduced (the question states "your FIRST version" and not CURRENT version) to Poser through an illegal copy (and admitted it), and 80% of all users dislike the inconvenience of the current registration system that it wouldn't be seriously rethought? You might not have noticed but there is a real serious cash flow problem in the software industry today and it's not caused by warez because during the heyday of warez, money was changing hands fast and furiously....people were buying software and the software they were buying, curiously (no pun intended) enough was the software most heavily pirated, ie., MAX. You little Kazaa Kiddies need to do some research first, and throw out veiled accusations secondly.

Anyone have any problems with submitting the questionnaire? I filled it out, but it wouldn't e-mail to Curious Labs.

Mine wouldn't email either :(

Movida, I just thought that answer to the question funny that's all. I took nothing out of context. I don't think CL is stupid. there were lots of questions and all I could see was an attempt by CL to assertain peoples general feelings on several matters. lighten up a bit. no one is attacking you that I can see.

Mine obviously didnt e-mail anything either...??

I was going to reply to that questionnaire assuming the answers were going to EGISYS and not CL. Am I mis-reading? I'm hoping they're seriously considering the route of introduction to their product, and the inconvenience the current authorization system puts on their users, plus the fact that it obviously didn't work. And no, I don't have a warez version of Poser 5. I'm a realist that's all...energy is better directed improving the product.

I think the problem is this section: action="mailto:olga.brueckmann@egisys.de"

I believe that a script is needed to grab the info, formulate it into an e-mail, then send it off to Olga Bruekmann.

Seems to me that even basic HTML eludes them. Could this be the reason for CP's delay? ;o)

For those having problems with the questionaire. Try the web page in a seperate browser window and check your firewall settings http://www.egisys.com/poll/questionnaire.html Submitting the form through a browser will throw up a firewall error as the browser is attempting to remotely send a message via email. It will work, and you can submit through the webpage, but it will fire an alert through the firewall. If you have autoblock on the submit function will fail, might be worth it for those who do not have reporting on in their firewall (message screen warning of access or attempted access) to turn the firewall off prior to submitting the form and then back on once it's been sent. The form works, but security settings may have an effect on it sending. Mainly because it's not submitting a form result to EGI, it's submitting a remote email request. Have fun. :)

I tried the separate browser and specific address, but it still doesn't work. is there another method? most of these type of comment forms that I run into on web sites work, so there is something in the nature of this one that is not working. thanks.

This is not a comment form. Most comment forms on the web send the details from that web address. This one doesn't. What happens with this page is that you fill in the form, click the button, that sends a "send email" request to your computer, the data is then transferred to your computer and included in the email which is then posted to Olga at EGIsys. It's an odd way to do it, but it does mean that EGI get un-edited data from the users (not of course that CL would selectively edit the data, but EGI obviously want raw responses) It's somewhere between the clicking of the button and sending of the email that the errors are occurring. However, if you use an email program that saves sent items. Check in the history to see if an email has been sent to olga.brueckmann@egisys.de that contains a listed print of your answers on the web page. You don't get a confirmation report that it's been successfully sent from the webpage, and there's a chance that you did send the data. Check in the email program. (Outlook Express is "Sent Items" other programs may differ but most contain a history) If not, then format an email like follows 1 aware of Poser=(answer) 2 Professional/private=(answer) 3 work with poser=(answer) 3 work with poser=(answer) 4 results=(answer) 4 results=(answer) 5 area=(answer) 5 others=(answer) Where the number is the question on the page and multiple choice answers carry the same number as the question. A bit more work, but it's how the data is formatted in the email and send that to olga.brueckmann@egisys.de I should imagine that would be perfectly satisfactory to EGISys as that is how their mail link action formats the email. Hope that helps

1: After all the negative publicity that Poser 5 is getting, is this prixe really motivating people to fill ou the form? I'll fill out if only to complain about the software and maybe win the high end PC so I can Poser 4 on it. 2: Why do they have to be "fancy"? Just use simple the HTML "post form" command and be done with it. There is no need to fire up an e-mail client or use Outlook to send an e-mail. Okay, then people, start complaining about how egisys and CL are taking control of your computer...

Just another thought: Why is egisys doing this survey? Have they realized that CL f---ed up the release of P5? Have they heard how many people are complaining about the bugginess of P5? Are they planning on doing something with CL and/ or Poser? When will SR4 for Poser 5 be released? They need to start working on fixing all the bugs they know aren't fixed in (or caused by) SR2 and SR3.

Why do they have to be fancy? I have no idea. Ask Olga. :)

Doesn't work for me either, generally speaking a "post" action should spawn senmdail (or some other email program) on the site in question to mail the captured results to an internal address. Dumb but par for the course.. :P later jb

You lost me JohnRender. I'm not aware that a SR2 or SR3 for Poser 5 had been released. Aren't they working on SR2 right now?

EricofSD: my apologies, it wasn't until just now that I noticed the "Dave-so" heading on your post to this thread. I wish people wouldn't do that, I skim headers and assume all replies are directed at the post directly above them unless prefaced with a nym. Then I make an ass out of myself and open up my mouth. Sorry, thought you were implying something (as vs. saying it right out)

JohnRender, If you would stop complaining (you remind me a lot of someone who is no longer here because he got on everybody's nerves like a fiddle with one stretched string), and started thinking, you might derive a few answers for yourself. egisys is a German company. It is quite possible that they conduct surveys to collect certain types of information and that they want that data delivered in a certain manner so that their own systems can analyze it. I have 2 German friends who are software developers, and from discussions, it is obvious that their business culture is different enough from ours that I make no assumptions about what is important to them or to their customers (both are in niche industries). Time is valuable. Most businesses recognize that, and when people take the time to fill out a survey responsibly, there should be some sort of compensation for that time. Either there is a significant prize for the collective time, or small individual gifts. egisys was collecting more information than simply our opinion on security. How many Poser users are Mac users? Even though the prize is a PC, those of us who prefer Macs need to speak up! Information on where we first heard about Poser and how long we've been using it and on what machines and for what purposes will help them direct their development and marketing. I am glad that they had a comments field. You have dismissed their survey form as "fancy" with unneeded quotation marks because they don't take the lazy way out? I suspect that the reason their form may be snagging on our firewalls is that the Germans have better privacy laws... maybe they don't have as many strings of barbed wire around their computers. You also directed us to start complaining about how egisys and CL are taking over our computers (in the same paragraph, msg 15). That is false and inflammatory. Do not presume to speak for us, or to us in such manner. Carolly

Attached Link: http://www.egisys.com

Please don't worry about the security of your data, nobody
want's to take over your computer nor your personal data;-)

Wolfgang (from EGISYS AG)

Attached Link: http://www.curiouslabs.com

I would like to confirm that your privacy is protected at every time, no matter if EGISYS or Curious Labs is receiving and evaluating the data.

Sincerely, Wolfgang

Is there a way we can tell if the survey went through? I've done the survey at least 5 times, e-mail and web submission, and it doesn't look like anything went through, except perhaps a blank e-mail from one attempt. Did you guys put an anti-piracy lock on the bloody survey?!?

Crescent: If the form goes through sucessfully you should see first "Submitting form, please wait" followed by Survey successfully sent! You can close the window now... If you haven't seen that confirmation it's possible the survey did not send.

Wolfgang, Thank you for revising the protocol for sending the form. I have responded to the survey a second time since I'm fairly sure that it snagged earlier. I had to add another year to the age for my birthday, but that isn't nearly as embarrassing as admitting how much we spend as content and add-ons. If you get multiple copies from people, please don't assume that we are "stuffing the ballot box". Without notice of safe arrival, folks will keep trying to get through. Carolly