Why were the Daz Michael2 and Vicky2 CDS Pulled from the Store?

Weren't they the old Version 1 CDs? They're still available at 3D Commune. It might be because DAZ has released the new Version 2 CDs at practically the same price, and doesn't want to compete with itself. I'm sure that the conspiracy theorists will have plenty of potential reasons ....

V2 and M2 CDs were never in the MP. Those products are only sold at DAZ AFAIK.

Nobody said anything about a conspiracy theory.I still thought Michael and Victoria CDs were pulled from the store last week after being there for a year.And frankly,I wonder why?

yeah, v2 and m2 were never there, i remember looking for v2 here and not finding it. but can anyone see v1 or m1 anymore? did daz pull them cos they're up to version 3?

btw, Artist3d, i'm getting a serious signal of chicken little coming from your way lol no offense intended, i just think it's funny :)

I know for a fact that a Mike and Vicky CD WAS in the store and was removed last week,NOT by Daz.The fact I said Mike2 and Vicky2 was probably an error on my part.And believe me April dear,I am not a chicken,nor littlelolno offense taken or intended,I think you're funny too.Now,since I cleared up the fact the Cds were not Mike and Vicky2 but Mike and Vicky reg cds,Why did Render remove them?Daz didn't.I asked them.

daz said they didn't remove v1 and m1 cds from here but they're not to be found? hmm. and i just saw they are still at 3dcommune. hmm. 8| yeah, i think the chicken little thing is from the capital letters in the topics. fun effect heh heh :) just watch for annoyed people cos supposedly caps lock is "shouting" on the net. don't ask me, i didn't make the rules. ;) i have posted with caps lock on before though... heehee

DAZ removed the Vicky 1 and Mike 1 CD's from their own store... Guess they are not available at all anymore and hence will be disappearing from all stores in due time. Maybe 3dcommune just wants to clear their stock and therefore still has them up in their store.

Oh come on... This place can do better than that!!! Where are all the whining conspiracy theorists screaming that Curious Labs, which "as we all know" has secretly subverted every online forum, forced the store to remove Daz products because they "make Don and Judy look bad." - Ray

I seem to remember the DAZ newsletter some months back saying they were reducing the price on those to clear out the stock and they weren't going to make any more copies after that.

lol ryamka actually, I think the pink pony did it

has secretly subverted every online forum sarcasm or not they haven't secretly subverted every online forum, they just partnered with this one. That alone should have immediately made the conspiracy theorists leap into action. I guess they're all too busy with other things at the moment.

If you promise not to tell anyone... Vicky and Mike were pulled from the store because DAZ is ready to release their "killer app" that will put Poser to shame. (They claim it's still "in development", but this is only to throw people off the trail so we don't start begging them and cause them to release a buggy program just to keep up quiet.) In fact, their product, code-named "PosaPerson", will also include a "Dream Products" section (basically a working "Content Paradise"). This will be the only place where you can purchase DAZ prodocts, including, Vicky, Mike, and their upcoming super-real figures, code-named "Barbie" and "Ken" (note: due to obvious legal reasons, these names will be changed in the final product). They will also be releasing a super-realistic soldier-type male figure, code-named "Joe". There will be a new models in the "Dream Products" line, including a house and a car. I probably shouldn't mention this, but there is also gossip, rumor, speculation, and heresay that DAZ will be buying Renderosity. But, you didn't hear that from me, and the powers-that-be will deny it all day long. I can't offer any proof of this because, if they knew I had it, they would hunt me down (or worse, ban me!).

Thanks for the heads up, John, we all needed some new fodder for conspiracy speculatons ;-)

I'm confused..... Michael 2 is on the DAZ website under Michael. So is the Michael 2 CD. I was just in their site looking at it.

"that DAZ will be buying Renderosity" But I thought Curious Labs had already bought and partnered it?? ;o) Jack

Could you guys make up your minds and tell me who owns my soul? I'm getting a serious complex over all of this! ;-P

heyas; i'll own your soul, crescent. as long as i can trade it for some good deals.... okay, here's THE conspiracy theory! the m1 and v1 cds were removed cuz.... um, okay, because they are old. because nobody buys them any more because they buy m2 and v2. and um... oh i know! they had a 'sell by' date on them, and now the m1 and v1 cds are stale.

You know, I've been sitting here trying to come up with a theory as to why those products might've been pulled and they are... 1.) DAZ Pulled them...: Maybe getting ready for the release of Victoria 3, they didn't want to support a product several years old and that has been upgraded twice. Perhaps they are planning on releasing a Victoria/Michael 2 CD package to put in their place. 2.) Renderosity removed them...: If this is the case, then I see some bad mojo coming as a result of this. Considering that a majority of content sold in Rosity's marketplace is based off of DAZ Geometery or products. If Renderosity did remove those products, just what kind of message are they trying to send to DAZ or what is the meaning behind such action?? One might be willing to think as I do... and please remember this is only my opinion here: Renderosity becomes partnered with CL in the form of Content Paradise... or even perhaps even closer partnered than that by way of becoming a CL owned website (hence the Beta Test forum only being housed here on Renderosity by Curious Labs and not at any other website also the sheer volume of DAZ's software vs P5 threads or P5 complaint threads being moved or burried). There is no secret as far as the relationship between Curious Labs and DAZ and lack of any support offered to Poser 5 from DAZ. In that case, since this place has become a CL partner, one could see DAZ's involvement in Renderosity's store (and the program that they are working on) as a Competitor to Curious Labs/Renderosity. Futhermore, having once been a Merchant here myself, a Merchant in the Renderosity Store entitles that Broker to have access to the hidden Vendor/Merchant forum. By removing DAZ from any brokerage in Rosity's store, removes their ability to visit that forum any longer which may be the staging area for Content Paradise and the partnership with CL. Remove DAZ from it, DAZ is then kept in the dark regarding any move Renderosity decides to make in relation to Content Paradise and solid Partnership with CL. Now, if that is the case and DAZ hadn't pulled their own product, one would have to venture a guess as to 1.) Who is next to be removed... 2.) Just what is being discussed between CL and the owners of Renderosity and why haven't we, as a Community, been included (at least in some part)in this... 3.) What would DAZ's response to this be? Considering that the majority of product for sale in Rosity's marketplace is based off of DAZ related products, I don't really see TPB at Renderosity being stupid enough to remove DAZ's involvement from their online store and risk DAZ saying something like: "Okay, if you don't want our support and see us as competition, then remove the support of our products from your store." That would surely kill Renderosity and Content Paradise even before it opened. No, I think DAZ probably removed their store products themselves. I could be wrong (I hope not) but I guess we wont know unless DAZ comes in and tells us they removed them themselves or otherwise. Jack

Jack, Artist3D and others. We don't want to be kicking the behive here in any way, but feel that it is important to mention that we did not pull our products from the Marketplace. We had the Victoria and Michael CD's here because we felt it would be more convenient for some customers to be able to purchase them in one order (along with the other great Victoria and Michael related products sold here). We would love to have the new Victoria 2 and Michael 2 CD's available here if we could. Sincerely, Dan Farr

Thusly doth the plot thicken...

I wonder. As Mike and Vickie are competing models for Curious Labs' new family of dorkier and dorkette, does this move by Renderosity enforce the EULA statement against competing with Poser 5. Is this mile marker for brokering with a Curious Labs controlled Renderosity store? Have we just seen the first indication that Renderosity is not and has no intention of maintaining it's own seperate and free market and identity? Is this the first example of Poser 5 non-competition enforcement? Who's going to be the next vendor to have their products pulled from the store?

Fascinating. tagged ;]

oh damm, dann..dont come in here and mess up a really good conspiracy with facts ...heh perhaps the aliens made them do it? OR it could be a government plot but, I'm still sticking with the pink pony using its influence.

Well you might have a good point Brycetech. After all, shortly following the Pink Pony's reappearance in the Renderosity gallery we find that Daz products are removed sans-request from the store. You may well have hit on the truth of the matter.

If the CD's weren't selling, shouldn't they have gone to the "Wharehouse" and Daz been sent a "Your product has been wharehoused for lack of sales in x period" like any other merchant?

hey questor, if we work together on this one..we could make a REALLY good conspiracy. You just threw out some things there that'd make a really excellent start on one. Or perhaps just making implications would be enough and let people's imaginations take over? :)

If it was M1 and V1 then perhaps it wasn't selling and it went to the Warehouse but the warehouse was opted out? It's possible it was that simple - but then again I also doubt that CL would want to further DAZ by having people use the Content parasite (released and still not working - what is up with that???) to buy Mike and Vicki...

B/M

Or perhaps just making implications would be enough and let people's imaginations take over? Let the imaginations take over, it'll be far more entertaining. :)

There playing hide and go seek...tag was getting boring...

tagged. :)

Hmmm... this got moved... of all places to here. Wouldn't this move have been better made to the Store Contact forum rather than the News Forum... ... although, come to think of it, I think it would make some INTERESTING NEWS to find out why Renderosity removed DAZ's products, since it wasn't DAZ who removed them... So why were they removed???? Jack

Because Daz are very very bad people who are attempting to take over the world with Mike and Vickie models and reduce ALL of poserdom to rendering vickie's in a temple with a sword and Mike in a whatever with a Big chopper and Renderosity is now attempting to do the honourable thing and save the world so heavily threatened by the utter evil and mind control subliminals included in the Vickie mesh by removing it from the clutches of desperate content seekers. (pause for breath) This isn't a conspiracy it's a fight of good against evil and it's been proven time and time again that Vickie and Mike are ultimately evil and their existence and in their ability to infect computers and poser users worldwide is legendary. It is time to stand up and fight for the whole of mankind and make the evil Vickie and Mike mind control devices disappear from the very face of the planet. Don't believe me? Follow them from their start to today. When they arrived people said they were ugly and malformed. Yet the virii inherent in the meshes had already invaded some minds and people purchased them claiming they were not ugly at all but it was poser camera and poor textures which had created the ugliness of the initial sightings. The virus was spread through renders and content until thousands of people had suffered the infection and had purchased them. Then came version 2 of the virus and the infection spread to epidemic proportions resulting in even more naked vickie's in temples and even more mikes with big choppers and poserdom rocked in agony as the virus ate into the brains of the users and watchers. Soon the Evil Empire of Daz announced it's next terrible attack against mankind. VERSION 3!!!!! It was too much. The entity known as Renderosity, shining white knight of all the poser users, was unable to sit quiet any longer and allow this invasion of minds and computers around the world and has taken steps to cull the virus from our minds and our computers and our poor suffering copies of Poser and have removed the initial insidious and terrible mind control devices known as Vickie 1 and Mike 1. Thereby reducing exposure of the virus to new members and future members and helping to begin the withdrawal of reliance from those previously infected. Realising the threat of VERSION 3 of the virus what else could they do. Perhaps it is too late, perhaps they have acted in time. Only time will tell. Tune in next week as we explore the continuing battle against the evil of Mike and Vickie and the nekkid temples and big choppers. Will the evil empire of Daz strike back? Will DanFarr the martial master of mind control be able to deliver his evil content. Will mankind survive? Or are we all DOOMED!!!! same channel, same episode, same time, same world... Be there or be infected.

::chuckles:: Where is Questor and what have you done with him? For a second there you reminded me of some mod's I know. ;o) Jack

Sorry Jack, just couldn't help myself. At this time of the morning (just before sun-up) I get a tad weird. :)

::smack smack smack:: Good God MAN don't let it happen again!! Um does this mean that I have to stop hitting you now? :o) Jack

What's a Chopper?Isn't it a hellicopter or motorcycle?Boy Mike2 sure as a big weenier!...LOL

Chopper = teeth. That is my interpretation as used.

Um does this mean that I have to stop hitting you now? :o) ROTFLMAO....

They were the older versions of Vicky and Mike. V2 and M2 can be purchased at DAZ. www.daz3d.com Clint

Also - Just so you can stop the rummor mill right now. Renderosity has a fine relationship with DAZ. Clint

(Quote) **** We don't want to be kicking the behive here in any way, but feel that it is important to mention that we did not pull our products from the Marketplace. We had the Victoria and Michael CD's here because we felt it would be more convenient for some customers to be able to purchase them in one order (along with the other great Victoria and Michael related products sold here). We would love to have the new Victoria 2 and Michael 2 CD's available here if we could. Sincerely, Dan Farr **** If we could? So why can't they? Stop the rumour mill? You have got to be kidding, that's not possible, it has a life all of it's own. :)

What? We have to put our cloak and daggers away now?

"They were the older versions of Vicky and Mike." Does that mean that they were pulled because they were older? Or because they weren't selling anymore? I don't expect an answer (not my business) - but the ramifications are scary from a vendor point of view considering DAZ didn't seem to know anything about it....

{They were the older versions of Vicky and Mike} So, they were removed because they were "older"? What's next? Deleting members because they are "too old"? How old is "too old"? Will everyone over the age of 30 be deleted? Will we get a red mark that turns black on our 30th birthday? My, god, when will this insidious plot end?

Hey, hey, calm down... The "old" versions are still in the DAZ store :-) It's just the CD compilations of M1 and V1 that have been replaced with CD compilations of the version 2 figures... Makes perfect sense from a marketing perspective.

Well for myself... It's because I don't have a life, have time to waste and don't sleep much. And because I'm just naturally a nosy SOB who has a nasty habit if sticking a nose where it doesn't belong. Can't speak for anyone else though.

I personally don't care about the DAZ equation in this - I care if they are deleting products without notifying the merchants because I am one (at least for a while longer) and merchants are supposed to be notified of deletions.

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