Err, Mr. tutone? Can we chat for a moment? Dude, you and JeffH need to sit back for a few and not continue this line of debate. You're only digging a deeper hole here, and neither of you are doing Renderosity any good by arguing with your customers in this manner. I'm not so sure that contacting Clint will help, tutone, at least not if all that happens is that the mail takes a one-way trip to /dev/null. No accusation agaisnt Clint at all here, but if Tim isn't willing to listen, then what good will contacting Clint do? By now you've probably heard a zillion ideas for how to make things right again. Also, it doesn't do much good to keep pounding the point in that Tim's decision was ill-concieved... I think he knows that by now, or at least should know it by now. Perhaps I should let you know where I come from: I am not an admin at PoserPros, and I am only a nominal moderator at Faeriewylde, which doesn't even have a store... in there, folks are peaceful and kind, so as a moderator, I don't get that much of a workout in there; I rather like it that way. I do live in very close proximity to DAZ, but I do not at this time represent them in any official or unofficial capacity, nor am I on their payroll. Therefore, it can be safely assumed that I have no evil personal agenda, yes? So why did I pull my store, freebies, and galleries? I've already posted my reasons, and will not repeat them ad nauseum. However, before I do waht the vast majority of the membership around here does - simply lurk and download - I wanted to ask you guys to take some time out and re-think this unholy mess. There is still time to put it right. /P

Unfortunately Penguinisto, any further comments on this topic only provides yet another thread for RR bashing and an opportunity for additional flaming. There is nothing new to be said on the topic. A business decision has been made and it is time to move on.

That's the problem, though, isn't it? Lots of people are moving on. To other places.

Cambert, that is what many of you would like to believe, but the truth is - you are incorrect. This subject has been dropped!

This subject has been dropped! The evidence suggests otherwise.

"There is nothing new to be said on the topic. A business decision has been made and it is time to move on." That may well be, but just because there's nothing more to be said and it's time to move on, doesn't mean anyone actually WILL move on, nor does it mean that nothing more WILL be said. Unfortunately, there's not a hell of a lot you can do about it unless you're willing to start deleting and locking threads, and banning members. And I think you can anticipate what'll happen if you do that. A word of advice, from me to you, tutone. SHUT UP. Nothing personal, but as an old-timer here, I've seen these firestorms come and go, and they as surely as they come, they also GO. If, as you say, there's nothing more to be said, perhaps you should take that a clue yourself, because the more you respond, the more you invite response. I know you admins here are taking some hard lumps right now, and you're going to take more of them, but they're your lumps to take. Take em' and move on.

I'm sticking around.

I am just a little more outspoken about it than some.

For those that are angry: I wish you well. And, no, I do not mean that statement sarcastically. I mean it.

All of you - the merchants - have loyal customers here at Renderosity. Regardless of your politics.

Good night.

I'm not leaving either. Unless they throw me out. :) yep, there are several merchants and artists here I like a lot. I won't boycott them.

Hey tutone, why are they letting you speak? Your people skills really suck. Take Legume's advice. No offense intended, of course. JDexter

Tutone is letting himself speak because tutone can; tutone is the almighty spoken word; the only truth here that really matters; next to Legume.