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Poser 4 (sorry, don't have 5 yet) AMD1.3ghz, 512DDR, GeForce 3 w/Detonator 40 drivers and major tweaking, WinXP Pro w/SP1 and most patches (also with major tweaking) = 42 seconds
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Thanks for reposting Jim! Seems a few other folks have also gotten new boxes since this was first posted. From the days of the original thread, (http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=589354) where the ancient, yet revered WhimpyPooter, (P2/133MHz/32Mb RAM/W95) proudly brought up the rear with a glacial-like speed of 32 min & 50 sec, the nice shiny new replacement box here (P4/2.2GHz /1Gb RAM/GeForce4 TI4400/XPp) blew through that puppy in 42 seconds. That's 47 times faster than just last week! Now, what to do with all the spare time? (...yeah, right) Although I still may fall short of my aspirations in talent & skill, I can now take some solace in knowing that I'll be cranking out 47 times the crap in the same amount of time! Thanks again JB for reposting your benchmark test file here.
Well, I got a slightly appalling 2 minutes 10 second render time with my Dual PIII 933 W/1 gig of PC133 ram and an ATI 7200 card. Running XP w/SP1. Now, in my defence, my PC has been up for over a week without any type of reboot, and I had outlook, a chatroom, Internet explorer, and 3 downloads going at the time... not to mention motherboard monitor, a firewall, virus scanner, and Style XP. I suppose all of that stuff was eating a few system resources... :D
Your welcome, Nance! I thought I'd re-run this too, as I had to slow my RAM setting to PC-100 (I've got a bad RAM chip, gotta replace it someday), Time is up to 45 seconds, how awful! This is a now-getting-old Athalon 1.4, 768 Mb (now) PC-100 Non-dual ported memory (it predates that stuff), Win2K, did 44 seconds in it's youth, Oh Well! Incidently, your time is (I think) the best ever reported for a Intel processor. I hate to say it, but I'm probably going to go back to Intel for my next system, just to get away from the fan noise.
Cool - had not noticed that about the Intel vs the AMD times. As you can tell, I'm pretty jazzed with the quantum leap in performance with the new toy. btw - I normally leave the side-stepping status guy turned off, so in the interest of 'apples-to-apples' comparisons I just ran it again with the .avi turned on and got 44 sec. (added 2 sec). Still curious to see if someone will do a comparison between P4 & P5 on the same system.
1 minute 9 seconds Pentium 4 1.40GHz 512mb RDRam 64mb Graphics card (can't remember the brand name) Windowzzzz XP Home Ed. A new question, how long does it take people to load a fully dressed Vicky 2 (say 4-6 clothing items & a Varesh type of hair). When I click on the character from the menu it takes up to 8 minutes to load into Poser. I can however get a scene with up to 8 Millenium characters fully dressed with scenery to render. Just takes an hour to get them all into the scene to start.
My system completed the test in 46 seconds. AMD Athlon XP 1700+ (1466mhz) 256mb PC2100 (266) DDR SDRAM nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 Maxtor 30gb 7200 ATA66 hard drive Windows 2000 Pro SP3 Poser 4.03 Looks like Poser really likes brute FPU power, the 3 FPU Pipelines in the Athlon seem to have quite an advantage over the dual (and longer) pipelines in the Pentium 4. Anyone know if Poser 5 takes advantage of Intel's SSE or SEE2? It doesn't look like Poser 4 does.
Jim is still having trouble understanding why some of you guys get such slow results! AMD 1.4 Athlon CPU, 1 GB non-DDR PC133 RAM (now), DMA 100 Poser HD, DMA 66 System HD, Win 2K "no SR", (improved a whole second going from 768 Mb RAM!). Norton AntVirus on, incidently. - 43 seconds. I think a lot of you guys have too much mutimedia stuff on your computers, or something. If you have DMA 133 or 100 drives make sure they are actually configured and connected (they need a different cable) that way. On my box I had to first install the OS using the DMA 66 connection, then load a driver and reconnect the cable, haven't done that for the OS drive, yet. Poser might run faster on a separate physical drive from the one the OS is on, maybe, too, mine is set up that way. I have no other ideas! Incidently, if you do things like turning off the sidestepping little man you are just kidding yourself!
OK, it took me 1 minute 10 seconds on my new Pentium 4, 2.6 gigahertz, 512 megs DDR memory, Windows XP + service pack 1, Poser Pro + service pack 3, 32-bit color, 800x600.
I applied all the tweaks for system performance gleaned off the Internet, and it made not one second of difference. Now I wonder if those speed tweaks are going to bite me in the future. :-D
Nance was interested in seeing P4 vs P5 tests on teh same machine - so I've set-up my notebook to do exactly that test... Now one thing tha tI note is that neither P4 nor P5 renders this scene "correctly" or, rather, "as intended". check out: P5: The walls in (ugh, double-sided props. Should be banned) P4: The right "tail" of the dark-haired lady's jacket in - an odd dark spot. The leg showing through? Join between the two walls. But I digres... PIII 800 Notebook PC Win2K Pro SP3 + updates 256MB 100MHz RAM P4: 1:43:46 1:35:92 1:30:34 P5: 3:27:84 3:23:67 No displacement (not used in the scene anyway) 2:21:28 No displacement, Ray-Traced with ray-traced shadows turn on 4:05:75 4:18:30 Hmmm...some variation, probably due to the hard drive access (not enough RAM) the odd squares (two-faced props!) and the mountain of things cluttering up my system tray (battery monitor, twiddly mouse replacement utility, CPU/screen/whatever power management, firewall, antivirus, memory manager, hot-swap drive bay manager, partridge in a pear tree etc. etc.)
Okay, found it, had a diff thumbnail than I expected... P4:........................48 seconds P5: P4 Renderer............2 min 45 seconds P5: Firefly Renderer.......1 min 48 seconds I have no clue why Firefly was faster than the P4 renderer.. AMD Athlon 1600 384 MB Ram OS WinXP
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O.K. guys here are the results from the first time I compiled 'em, plus some of the ones above added in. AMD 2000XP 1G RAM Win 2K 024 seconds Pentium 4- 2.4 Ghz 2GB RAM ? 033 seconds AMD 1800 Mhz 1GB Ram Win XP 035 seconds AMD 1800+ Athlon 512 Mb RAM Win XP Home 037 seconds AMD XP2100 1.73GHz 512MB RAM ? 040 secs AMD 1800+ 1GB RAM Win XP home 040 seconds Pentium 4 2.2 Ghz 1GB ? 042 seconds AMD 1.4 Athlon 1 GB RAM Win 2K 043 seconds. AMD XP 1800+, 1GB DDR RAM, WinXP 044 seconds AMD 1.4 Ghz Athlon, 768 Mb RAM, Win 2000K - 044 seconds. AMD 1.4 Ghz Athlon 768 Mb RAM, Win 98 048 seconds AMD 1.3 GHz 256meg RAM Win 98 048 seconds AMD Athlon 1600- 384 MB Ram ? 48 seconds Pentium 4 2.26 Ghz 1GB Win XP 048 seconds Pentium 4 1.7Ghz 384RDRAM WinME 063 seconds Pentium 4 1.9 Ghz 1Gb RAM Win XP 057 seconds Pentium 4 1.7 GHz, 256 MB RAM, 067 seconds AMD XP 1800+ 1 GB DDR Windows 2000 Pro 068 seconds Pentium 3 1 Ghz 256Mb Ram, Win 98, 070 seconds. Pentium 4 - 2.6 Ghz 512 Mb Windows XP 070 seconds AMD 1700+ (Dual) 1Gb DDR Win XP Pro 073 seconds Pentium 3 850 Ghz 512 Mb RAM Win 98se 081 seconds Pentium 3 1GHz, 512 MB RAM, Windows XP Home 081 seconds. AMD 800 Mhz Athlon 768Mb Ram Win XP Pro 085 seconds AMD 1700XP 512Mb WinXP Pro 088 seconds Pentium 4 1.0 Ghz ? ? 090 seconds Pentium Celeron 600 Mhz 256 Mb RAM Win 2000 Pro 095 seconds AMD Duron 1.1, 256 Mb Win XP pro 102 seconds PIII 800 Notebook 256 Mb RAM Win 2K Pro 104 seconds Celeron 700mhz 128 MB RAM Win XP 105 seconds AMD 1.0 Ghz Athlon 768Mb RAM Win XP Pro 106 seconds AMD 1..0 Ghz Athelon 512 MB RAM Win98SE 107 seconds AMD 1Gb Athlon, 256Mb Ram, Win 98. 108 seconds AMD ? K6 146 Mb RAM 115 seconds Pentium 3 800MHz, 128MB RAM, Win98 134 seconds Pentium III 500Mhz, 384mb RAM, Win98SE 165 seconds Pentium 3- 525Mhz 256 Mb RAM, Win 98 178 seconds Mac G3-500 Mhz 768 Mb RAM ? 215 seconds Mac G3-400 Mhz 256 Mb RAM O.S. 9.0.4, 343 seconds Mac G4 500 Mhz 832 Mb RAM O,S. 9.2.2 476 seconds iMac G3 233Mhz/ 160mb RAM OS9.2 615 seconds Mac 8500 306 Mhz 176 MB RAM ? 765 seconds Pentium II 133MHz 32Mb RAM Win95 1950 sec
OK, new moby CPU and RAM...not got ALL my dross loaded but plenty of background stuff (Firewall, Antivirus) running in the background. Pentium4 2.4GHz, 1.5GB of 266DDR RAM, Win2K SR3 plus updates. Poser4 00:42:46 Poser5 01:15:03 Poser5 no displacement 01:15:50 Poser5 no displacement, with shadows 02:16:46 Poser5 no displacement, with shadows, raytrace 02:23:53 Poser5 no displacement, with shadows, raytrace, raytraced shadows 01:53:98 Conclusion:- significant speed improvement with newer Pentium4 & faster RAM than older PIII and/or Celeron and 113/100 RAM
Just to add my 2ยข: Recently upgraded my Mac's memory to 552M, added a second SCSI internal drive and installed OS X. I also managed to enable the L2 cache on the upgrade card for the first time. Changed Poser's preferred OS 9 requirement to 450M with a minimum of 120M. Time, I figured, to run the test again. For reasons I can't hope to understand the render is now slower than it was before. In 9.1 native it took 538 seconds, and in Classic mode 680 seconds. Follow the link above to the earlier thread and you'll see the worst time I had was 476 seconds. [FYI it's a 7500 with a 350 MHz G4 upgrade card] The only thing I haven't tried is rebooting into the original internal drive's OS 9 instead of the pseudo-hybridized 9.1 on the new internal drive to see if there's any difference. However, I do have to notice that P4's regular functions are still quick enough to make playing around in Classic mode worth it. Rendering, of course, is another matter altogether.
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I have run the test on Athlon 1500XP, it took 95 seconds to run test.