Logged in, hit free stuff and got "Member Area Closed" Anyone know what that's about?

I don't know. I logged in yesterday and it said "16 days Member area closed." I logged in just now to see if it said anything different and all it said was "Member area closed." Does this mean Bat's gone for good this time :( I hope not

Oh, and I just tried the gallery and board, and get a "forbidden" message :( Makes me wonder if he's giving up the site for good this time

i think someone in alt.binaries.3d.poser said he was closing for 16 days then would be back.

Hopefully, he's just on sabatical.

Someone published his password for BatLabs site. BatLab wasn't amused.

Why would anyone publish a free password?

Mosca, is that a trick question?

Why do fools fall in love? To reproduce and outnumber us.

Hacker = Moron, said nuff.

Well, like I said, yesterday I got the "16 days" message and today it's just "Member area closed" I hope the idiot publishing the password isn't the cause of Bat closing the site down :( Especially since registration for the site is free to begin with.

I would think that someone oublishing their password would result only in that person's membership being cancelled. Especially since anyone who wants to get in can simply apply for a free membership...

Hm. Bat does seem to periodically shut down and reconfigure--weird that he'd do it so shortly afte realeasing two new dl's, though.

Hey maybe he likes different look to his site every other month.

galactron22, just for the record (dons asbestos underwear, gonna hear it about this one) ... There are big differences between a hacker and crackers and script kiddies.

And between a hacker and a warez kittie.

Sanku, IB.

Np, 'Pooka. ;]

Anyway...no matter whacha call em theyre all the same, SCUM!!!

Um. No.

SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM,SCUM.

I'd assume that you were deliberately trying to start a fight, but that demonstration proves it's just not worth it. Were you sticking your tongue out and going neener neener at the same time? I know, IB, I know, and I'm walkin away.

Awwwwww.... but why 'Pooka? And I was so looking forward to eating the troll. ;] Rats. scuffs feet All right. Never get to have any fun.

Why Do I think they are SCUM, you ask? I worked for a Design firm here in Florida, about six months ago we, had a huge account that included printed and web material, to make along story short some SCUM ( my pet name for Hackers/wachamacallem) Haked into our Mainframe an thrashed all sorts of stuff, so the company looses a wad of money and I get the Ax, So in my book Theyre all SCUM.

Hackers break code, Crackers break into computers, there is a difference.

Pooka there's one thing that hackers, crackers, script kiddies & warez kiddies all have in common, they're all assholes who want shooting :(

No, I don't want shooting. :P

Hacker are people who try to expand the boundaries of a system, improve it or otherwise make it do cool things for which this system was not designed. The people who invented MAT files, EMC and all the other neat Poser hacks are Poser hackers.

Cracker are a different beast altogether. Some people are really crackers but try to camouflage as hackers. The whole hacker/cracker mishmash is the fault of Hollywood, the distinction is way to sophisticated for studios who are only interesed in flippant stories.

oops forgot about that, sorry Yuri :)

Yup. Ditto - hardware geeks like me or Drake or EvilTed who will push a gaming system to the absolute limits with overclocking, over cooling, driver, software and OS tweaks are "hackers" in the origional sense of the word: "Hardware Hacks" - people who "hack out"side of the design limits. Like the people who hang out at the overclockers boards - "hack" was a hardware systems term origionally. That's why CryptoPooka got bent.

ok but warezers & virus creators should be shot. I suppose that makes me a hacker too then cause I'm always tweaking the settings on my machines to get the best performance I can.

Yeahh... although shooting may be too good for virus creators. Shredded by wild dogs comes to mind. ;]

And then rescued before death and left to soak in cheap rotgut mescal... <------- Still remembering having to spend almost a week rescuing a clients system from a Klez infection.

I could think of much worse too, but this is a family show ;)

Shooting is to good for crackers. Let them work their sorry ass off in a prison camp. Some muscular hunk is probably really happy to get a new 'bride'. One of the sites our web department got 'tagged' (someone got access to the server, uploaded warez and published the URL on some BBS, huge bandwidth theft). Well at least we got Doom 3 Alpha out of it. ;P Sometimes I'm really happy that I got out off web administration two years ago. Linux driver development is so much more relaxed. Umm, well, somebody who publishes freebie passwords is neither a hacker nor a cracker but just a sorry sod.

IMHO, the whole "hacker" / "cracker" mixup wouldn't have occured if hackers stayed on their very own systems. Breaking into anybody else's system to do whatever you might call it, is simply a crime. Improving their own system may result in great innovations (You just named it - ERC, for example). But "improving" someone else's system is just a lame excuse (IMHO). I wouldn't shoot them, but make them pay for the loss they've inflicted. That would put them on hold for quite a while - and they could do real WORK for a change. WIlly

All the crackers, virus writers and script kiddies should be dumped in BFE with Commodore 64's with 1541 drives, IBM's PCjr. with it's annoying 'chicklet' keyboard and Coleco's Adam computer and a 14400 modem connected to a noisy phone line so they get lots of drop outs do to line noise.