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Subject: How I score a poem.


tjames ( ) posted Fri, 22 November 2002 at 12:40 PM · edited Thu, 13 February 2025 at 6:36 AM

The first consideration is the poem's skeleton. In the first read through I look for obvious head,tail, and internal chymes. Obvious chymes are euphonic, meaning true, rhymes. A head rhyme is a rhyme at the front of the line. An internal rhyme is a rhyme within the sentence matched to the head or the end. (1 pt per) Then I look at the white space and meter. Is the white space, the area without words being used? Are pauses, scene, or focal changes, cadence changes being used. (1 point for a yes) In the first reading I try to decide if I recognize a form, if cliche's are being used or if there's any obvious errors. An error is when a play on words is expected and the gag is just plain missed. (no minus points, but if it's too obvious it just doesn't help your cause). Poetry is meant to be read out loud. If a poem reads well and is easy on the ear that contributes to your cause. Now to all respondents. I'm keeping a copy of your prior poems if you want to ask me about what a poem worked in a first reading let me know and I'll go through it with you.


dialyn ( ) posted Fri, 22 November 2002 at 1:23 PM

Speaking of scoring...did you get a chance to score Poetry Challenge III??? I didn't notice that a winner was announced. I know there were a number of entries. Might be nice to have the winner of that one before Challenge IV's winner is revealed. Thanks!


tresamie ( ) posted Fri, 22 November 2002 at 2:54 PM

I second the motion!

Fractals will always amaze me!


dialyn ( ) posted Fri, 22 November 2002 at 3:53 PM

Alas, no one has ever tried to score with me....guess they figure it would be pointless.


tjames ( ) posted Fri, 22 November 2002 at 8:39 PM

PCIII for those in the batters box Oceans Apart J.M. Strother I sing a song to thee, my love, A song of wounded heart. I sing a song to thee, my love, Though we be miles apart. The ocean laps my tears away, Moon in silent solace stands, To help keep the ache at bay, Approaching distant lands. Tomorrow is the fateful day, The beaches we will reach, And should I die upon the sands, Our love still shall not leech. Remember me my bonny dear, Though I'm not at your side. Remember me, yet without tear, Thou sundered by the tide. meter 2 form 2 bal 1 a serenade in ballad form common meter; there is a prologue, but no refrain in the first stanza. there is horizontal but not vertical balance. repitans 1 heart-apart 1 away-bay 1 stands-lands 1 day-sands 1 reach-leech 1 dear-tear 1 side-tide 1 ocean-solace-approaching 2 bonny-not-yet 2 remember-remember repitans 1 remember-sunder 1 sing-song 1 oo-ee-rr-ll-nn 4 24/16 =1.5 Now, hopefully, the rest of the crew won't come in with three stanzas that's where you'll win or lose it Did you ever play Gomoku? The trick is to know how much is enough to win. You can't sit on your laurels either. Ok, haven't slept a wink and its 5am here, but Im still try'n . Heres my try- Love Tide 2002*SAkS. . .aka Rendered2Blue Fair and vain -the satin moon casts its likeness on the tide. . . kissing beach with endless sea~ wilst lovers, love, starry-eyed. Sweet dreams the yawning night portends as it shadows out each day- but alas! some dreams come to an end; And some loves will go astray Soft, yet rugged lad and lass in that darkest, starless night I pray the stars will find you there and guide you with their light I pray the stars will find you~ turn that night into the dawn Then your hearts shall beat in harmony to loves everlasting song meter 2 form 2 bal 1 tide-eyed 1 day-astray 1 night-light 1 dawn-song 1 satin-casts 1 beach-dreams 1 yawning-shadows 1 come-loves 1 darkest-stars 1 find-night 1 hearts-harmony-everlasting 1 repitans 1 endless-sea 1 oo-ss-rr-gg 4 22/16=1.37 Jagill Theres a brief moment at the end of a dream Before the cerebral flux transforms. When your spirit passes a tear in the seam Across converging storms. Return to the mortal hold that waits Or the phantasmagoric seas. Decide before the dream abates, Then turn your sails toward the breeze. Here I will wait every morn With a song Ive written for you Till we sing together no longer forlorn Two spirits awakened anew. meter 2 form 2 bal 1 dream-seam 1 transforms-storms 1 waits-abates 1 seas-breeze 1 morn-forlorn 1 you-anew 1 brief-cerebral 1 spirit-converging 1 mortal-phantasmagoric-before 2 sails-abates-wait 2 I think the problem was with the imagery stanza 1 when spirits 3rd person pause at that tear in the seam between converging storms in stanza 2 the order would be better reversed: -To decide before the dream abates; -To turn those sails to the breeze; -to journey back to the mortal hold that waits; -or to remain in fanta seas (I couldn't help myself) Where I wait,too, every morn; With my song written just for you; (I want to put a hanging 'til' here) Our voices twain, not one, forlorn;(could say perform also) Awakened spirits, one, not two. In repeating the "To" you use a device used by preachers and public speakers called the repetitive hammer. And in the conclusion something like that to improve the flow. 17/12=1.41 Caledonia Moonlight Sphere of poet's rhyme, Held in night's tender embrace, Shining silver white beams That passing time can't deface; Brilliant globe of even, Mistress of her domain, She turns snow into crystals, Cricket's song to lover's refrain; Glowing orb in the heav'ns, Kissed by sun's mirrored light, She cools the warm yellow rays To crown in silver the night; Pale medallion of moon, Silent watch forever keeping, Giding through appointed course High above a world asleeping meter 2 form 2 bal 1 rhyme-beam 1 embrace-deface 1 domain-refrain 1 light-night 1 keeping-sleeping 1 poets-held-tender 2 shining-white-time 2 globe-domain-snow-2 kissed-cools-yellow 2 Silent-Gliding-high 2 crickett's song-kissed 1 crystals-cricketts 1 passing-mistress 1 pale-rays 1 medallion-moon 1 even-she 1 26/16=1.625 My only comment on this is, Did you study Irish poetry? You seem to rhyme on the vowels in a very classic style. Your competitors seem to focus on the consonants rr-ll-ss, where you sound on ai,ae,ei, the medallion-moon (mn and (ll,oo) combination was unusual what finally did it was I went through it one lant time and found (even-she) sounding on the e I wanted to sound on heav'ns kissed on the s but the damage was already done. You hit him up with the assonance and backhanded him with a little dbl consonnance of your own.


tjames ( ) posted Fri, 22 November 2002 at 8:41 PM

I thought I had mentioned that Cal was still in, but Crescent was on vacation so nothing happened. I'm still waiting or the laureate square to go up from the first challenge.


dialyn ( ) posted Fri, 22 November 2002 at 8:44 PM

I'm guessing we might as well make Caledonia the permanent poet laureate of the group if I'm interpreting the ending scores correctly. Well done. I'm glad I'm not the one who has to choose. Thank you, tjames.


tresamie ( ) posted Sat, 23 November 2002 at 4:43 PM

I didn't see mine

Fractals will always amaze me!


dialyn ( ) posted Sun, 24 November 2002 at 8:59 PM

Hope you will. :)


jagill ( ) posted Mon, 25 November 2002 at 11:59 AM

I'll post mine if you post yours.


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