ive found the file i used before as a psp , ive converted it to psd and had to realy shrink it down cos of web host filesize restraints. but you can see how ive laid the layers out, i think theres a few dead layers in it aswell that may of not made it to the final jpg, but you can get the idea.

http://diaxus.webs.com/CrowRazorHead.zip

theres a female companion of J O'barrs crow comics, her name is/was Razor,

theres a pic of her i done here on rendo if you wana take a peek.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1804176&user_id=106149&member&np

The female face is made in paintshop pro using a heavy white over her face  and then overlaying her face back again in a new layer and fading it nearly all out,

and here a link to razor comic n pics

http://members.tripod.com/inner_mercy/Razor.html

nearly finished the Nalargon now, got the keys working up and down like they should of been and getting the textures sorted out for it.

another instrument ive nearly finished is the xantha. its now fully UVed and just working on some textures for it. ive put a vue render up as its the only one ive done so far, but you can get the idea for poser

thanks PhilC,

shortend the twist to a realy small twist that starts under the lowest joint of the nose to head and thats fixed it, and if i upload to share, ill just delete the choice to turn the head as you suggested.

think i had a bad case of trees n forest there.

thanks again

Ive track the problem and found a solution to the stall.

seems if i turn off "auto baking on anim" in the edit mesh box, everything renders fine again

ive just un checked the ' group figures as single meshes' and it started to load up the single mesh objects, but then stalled again after about half way (' prep mesh chest' this time ).

ive tryed many combinations of checking and unchecking boxes but all get trghe same results.

so the prob is the mesh prep when animating?

its renders each pic fine as a single render (but not as any anim. avi, bmp, or jpg. lol i dont fancy hand rendering 350ish files with single renders).

theres no dynamic cloth or hair, just the normal figures (M3 with fixed mesh props attached).

i think i may check the meshes to see if any have rats nests in when exported out in obj.

then i may batch them together in a rar and upload them aswell.

but i cant see the mesh being a prob as it stalls on rendering any imported animated object. but its the same4 in vue 7 and vue 9?

a single frame from a pz3 renders fine

rendering is the prob. it stalls before the first frame of rendering.

i left it running last night to see if its a time issue, but after 10 hours it was still 'preparing mesh body' and the bar had stalled with no change from its start.

its any animated poser charecter pz3 that wont get past this prep body process, im using the same poser 8 that ive done other vue projects with for while now, with out problem untill a few days ago.

im running win7hp 64bit on a intell2 quad Q8200 2.33ghz with 6G mem that has beeen fine for a couple of years (yep i would like more mem but its not an option at mo).

its ok ive managed to work it out by deleting  a few recent saves, no idea why thats worked but has.

i couldnt save it as a pz3 as i had to put it to my new pc that dosnt have poser at mo, but ive got  vue working on it as its a smaller program.

 Ive still got to transfer over near a whole hard drive of poser stuff (250ish gigs) to a quad core on vista64 from a xp that wont talk to a vista so im having to use a usb key to pass full saved inventory files and OBJ to the other, this is where the prob has come from.

so if i delete the OBJ file that i used to pass to my other pc, will poser find the original geo files?

thanks DR Geep, i did wonder when vicky came around. seems i had poser 3 then poser pro, both free from 3Dworld mag, and its that mag that got me started in CGI with strata3d and poser.
 
Before that i was using a prog called spazz 3d to make vrml objects for cybertown and its from that program that all of my intrest in making stuff came around,

3Dworld also gave a free copy of some bryce program (realy old n basic) and with using poser  my CG started to take over from free hand drawing and painting.

so my real history would be:

Spazz3d. strata 3d,  poser3, bryce?, poser pro..... and eventualy poser 7 , vue and studio max

im sure the english newspaper 'THE SUN' uses poser4 for there comic strip 'striker' even though thier site says they use maya, i have even recognised some of the old poser4 stuff from old sites still being used in it, so every day i read the paper, its makes me glad i went to poser7

thanks for the help.

i think that 3dRelief is the program im after for this.

thanks again

Diaxus

i use P3dO cos it an easy one use prog. there is another out there i used to use, but as it was updated every few month and wouldnt work if you didnt DL the new version.

but yeah the prcp is what you need if you want a UI fpr poser. but its not perfect