probably double-tracked gtr and syths (prophet 5?)as well. It's too burried to really hear all that well.

> Quote - > Quote - Ok, here are a couple of renders using V4's default Hi-res textures (everybody should have a version of these) > > > >   > > Say, where did you get the panoramic image on the first demo pic. I'd like to have that one in my runtime.

I don't remember where I got that. I modified it a bit. I replaced the wood floor with a reversed copy of the celing and changed the color from off-white to white.

> Quote - Ghostship, the skin and eyelash textures from your images posted 17 Sept are awesome, but I think the eye reflection is wrong. Eyes aren't glass balls. These three images are all portrait images, and one thing that is missing from all three is the surface reflection of the entire scene. I think the problem is in the cornea; the default mesh allocates it a material zone, but it has no effective shape. > > Of these images, two are studio shots; that means the room was almost certainly dark so only the light aource is visible. Not an entirely fair comparison to your images, given that they are in a wide, well lit environment. > > The image lower left is an outdoor shot (as indicated by the dilated pupil and how bright the iris is, and the fact the person was supposedly shooting in the desert) but there is still no real 'reflection' of the scene as you are getting. > > I tend to wind back (halve) the value for reflection on the cornea after running EzSkin. Snarly's values are probably correct if the geometry of the eye was correct. My adjustment isn't ideal, but it's a quick fix to stop haveing mirror ball eyes. > > While it is possible to get that horizon line across the eyeball, it's not a common thing to see. It certainly shouldn't be in every render.

Hey Piersyf

Yeah I've stuggled with eye reflections for ever. What it looks like to me on real eyes is that strong lighting/sun shows up quite well but the rest of the reflection is muted. I have tried this a bit by plugging the reflect node back into the reflect value plug. It doesnt work all that well....I just don't know what combination of shaders will do this (like turning up the contrast on the reflection.)

Normaly I use the eye surface for the reflects and leave the cornea invisible. but here is an attempt at the oposite. I had to make a mask in Photoshop to blur/fade out the edges of the reflection to remove the razor sharp edge of the iris. The sclara has a similar mask to blend the transition with the iris.

Anyway, I'm nt smart enough to figure out how to get that contrast thing going with the cornea reflects (BB maybe you would know how to do this?)

ok, yeah I've been running it for a few weeks and not had any of the problems that others have had maybe because I just updated and others thought it was a full blown new version that required a fresh install. I was reading where folks had troubles with their scripts and whatnot.

They just placed it on sale for $20 so looks like a good time to upgrade.

Quote - Ah. So, I went to "Personalize" and then pasted in the new SN and it worked. They probably told me to do that in some email, lol. 

So, is there any reason to keep my 2014 non dev version around? I had seen some complaints here in the forums when dev first came out, and wanted to wait until those issues had been resolved (not sure if that's the case). I can pull it from the backup, if there is good reason. 

 

I thought it was the same thing....I updated to the latest service pack a few weeks ago without knowing that there was a new version of the software out. From what I have read here you shouldnt end up with a different version of Poser on your system just update the old version with the service pack and then put in the new SN. Is this not the case?

latest service pack is basicly the same thing. The GD licence unlocks new features that are already installed if you have updated.

Paintings, sculpture, furnature, architechture....it's all physical stuff that you can put your hands on....made by the artists hands and most of the time will be a unique object that can't be mass duplicated.

The veiwer/owner has a sense that the object is precious....has taken much time and skill to make

secondly, good art typicly induces an emotional response from the viewer. There has got to be some kind of meaning to it or it's just useless crap (like most of the stuff I post to my Rendeosity gallerie.)

Thridly, some people buy art as an investment...a mass produced didgital print of a 3d render is worthless compaired to an oil painting of the same subject.

I've have been backing up my Poser files since the late 90's....no way in hell did I ever wan't to loose stuff in my runtime that I paid for or work files.

I'f your runtime+files is small enough to fit on a DVD or two do that...If more, buy an external HD and back up every so often. I back up every couple of months which is probably not smart but at leist it's there. Never had a problem with my PC or Mac when I used them.

Hey Martin,

I have to claim ignorance when it comes to the light meter. I downloaded it a long time ago but could never firure out what to make of it rendered. I re-downloaded it this morning to see if I had missed a PDF file on it's usage. No PDF. I guess I'd have to go through posts here at the poser forum to find info on it.

Anyway, What I did find out is that the texture map that I was using was the pasty-lilly-white version so I replaced all those maps with the darker more tanned looking maps. Here ia it rendered out. No lights were changed, only the texture maps. And again, not sure what the light meter is telling me but there it is.

Has anyone logged this bug yet with SmithMicro?

Ok, I figured I should post up a DOF render so here it is. DOF is done in Photoshop an takes about 1 min to set up and a few seconds to render out in Photoshop. If I had done this in Poser it would have been an all-nighter render.

Hey Martin,

I think I have to disagree with you on the hi quality render settings and leaving a render over night.

I've done that too but found that some of the render settings are best left down low because they don't affect quality enough to justify a 10 hour render.

Most of what I know about this comes from ArtBee here on renderosity and personal experience. IDL quality and IC don't matter much if the scene is well lit. Pixel samples is set to three...I usuualy render at much larger resolutions so 3 is all you really need for this.

Here is a render with M3 that took about 15 min with the same settings that I posted previously . As you can see from my signature I'm not using a super fast processor and these setting help out when I have to render multiple pics for a project.

I try to avoid using field of view blur because that takes nearly forever. Instead I render out a z-depth pic and open that in photoshop for post render bluring.

I had a similar result as BB with IC un-checked. I was unwilling to wait 10 hours though and set min shading rate to 4, pixel samples to 1, bounces to 6, ILQ to 7. I have updated Poser Pro 2014 to the latest version but without the developer/gaming kit.

The V4 textures are the basic hi-res rextures from DAZ. The eye textures are based on a package I got at DAZ from Mindvision GDS. I changed some of the shaders for them but used a bit of the old shaders so I can't really post up those. eye lashes are from Druscillagoth by Fabiana. I set the gamma on female lashes to .45 to make them thicker looking.

here are the render and skin settings