Ok well that one went over my head! I dont speak a word of Spanish, but if you say so Ill buy it IB lol.

Yeah I hear ya IB Im getting there myself. SSDD seems to be the order of the day around here. I still have a little hope but its going fast!

Exactly IB if we werent heated it would mean we didnt give a shit. I wish the PTB would see it like that.

Im upset that the AOM nomination process was changed again! No announcement was made about it either. I wasn't happy the nomination process was taken away from members in the first place and now its changed again? How many people are nominating AOM now? As IB says this just looks bad. Conspiracy? I don't know about that but it LOOKS BAD! It looks as if you guys change the rules as you go along and that's not good.

Spoon! The battle cry of silverware!

Damn this reminds me of the way nominations were made for AOM way back when lol.

Oh and one other thing,a while ago admin went to a committee format to decide the nominations for AOM for whatever reason.Now I am informed that there is no committee anymore, one guy is making these decisions. Is this true?

I all ready voted, so Legume, for his humor. he made me laugh my ass off too many times. Gevidal second cause he blows me away. This will be my last vote in these things however because I kinda agree with Schlabber, why bother?

Well,Kbennit I don't mean to offend you or anyone else.Im pissed that my vote was nullified. I don't know about any rigging of contests or anything like that. The thing is, in the past AOY was voted on by the membership, nothing was posted that I ever saw changing that. When the post came up I took the time to vote. Then it was pulled. If it was truly a mistake then it is too bad it happened. As for the staff being fair and unbiased well some may be, but if you look through these threads you will see that some clearly arent.Suspending X2000 for bringing up a past mistake in the handling of contests isn't to even handed when far worse things are said on this site everyday.No offense to you or any of the staff personally, I just have some major problems with some of the DECISIONS the staff has been making and as a member of this site I feel I should be able to address those concerns. Cool?

"And above all, The admins have now admitted that the vote was never intended to go to the community and that they put up the poll by mistake which nullifies the need for this entire argument alltogether." Except for the disscussion of why the vote was taken away from the membership in the first place, why a mistake was made posting a poll and it took 3 days to figure out that it was on the FRONT PAGE! And what the hell to do about it now? just about any solution is going to look bad.

Well my input is this, if we arent responsible or worthy of voting on AOY, why let us vote on AOM? Hell why bother even having this silly popularity contest now that we know the outcome is tainted? Do you expect us to believe that the staff will objectivly pick AOY? Not likely. At the time the poll was pulled Toxic was winning and Legume was coming on strong. Does Legume have an equal chance winning now that staff is doing the picking? LMAO yeah right.How about Gevidal? He works with Bryce, not a big money maker here so..... Now would Toxic make a great AOY? Yes he would his work is amazing. But whoever wins now it will look bad. Period. And that is too bad, all of the AOM'S were terrific. When I VOTED, it was a tough decision.

Fine a mistake has occured, no problem.Except for the fact Im still pissed that we arent considered adult enough or responsible enough to vote for AOY. That being the case I certainly wont take the time to vote in any more AOM contests. Why bother? Tammy, why dont you all(staff) just pick AOM dont even have a poll? That way you will always have the artist YOU want to win in there and no more hassels from the members? No more voting for anything? We can all just forget about AOM/AOY.Same goes for all the other contests why have a vote? Just do what you guys do best and Take something simple and COMPLICATE IT!

Tammy, I may be mistaken but I think your wrong about last year. Im pretty sure we as members voted last year for AOY. Now if Im right when was the policy changed and why? Don't you think we are intelligent enough to vote for AOM/AOY ? My problem with all of this is I TOOK the time to vote. Now my vote is unworthy? I hope you know that whoever you pick as AOY, it will now be tainted. And that's too bad because every artist that won AOM is deserving of the accolade of AOY. It was tough to pick.

Nice to see you Lady. I hope your doing well. Have a great Christmas and a safe and happy new year!

Woohoo a hug from Lady Jaiven! Now I need a cold shower! 8-)